fahaka question

[Big Business]

when a fahaka dies will it kill everything in the tank (that is, if you can get anything to live with it)? They’re poisonous, right?

[Honda12]

I think they would only die if they ate the one organ that puffers contain is poisonous. If they ate his skin and stuff they should be fine. It is just the organ that is poisonous. Sorry can't remeber which one it is.

[Big Business]

hmm... I have heard that SW puffers fowl the water and wipe out the entire tank if they are not taken out immediately. i was wondering if the fahaka would do that if it died when the owner was at work

[LA213]

well its like what honda said, as long as his poisonous organ was not touched or made in contact with the water is fine. but if a fish comes by and decides to try to eat it and punctures the slightest hole on the poisonous organ..well, consider the other fishes dead..good luck..i hope ur fahaka didnt die on u

[PufferXtreme]

I wouldn't worry, SW boxfish are the one that release toxins int the water. I have yet to see a nile puffer kill fish by dying.

[LA213]

couldnt agree more

[Big Business]

thanks for the info.

have you guys ever had another fish eat a fahaka? the other fish would die, right?

[Big Business]

thanks for the info.

have you guys ever had another fish eat a fahaka? the other fish would die, right?


i guess the question is, "is the toxin deadly like the SW or milder?" and "do you know from hearsay or experience?"

[LA213]

well what fish its size can really eat the fahaka?

[Big Business]

yeah, but i was thinking about getting a fahaka that was a bit smaller than my current fish

[PufferXtreme]

I'd be more worried about the puffer going to work on the larger fish.

[Big Business]

i was thinking about sticking a fahaka in with my dorado. i doubt i'll do it, not becuse i'm worried about the fahaka killing the dorado by biting it but because i think the dorado might harass the fahaka to death. If that happens I wouldn’t want to lose the dorado.

so does anyone have experience with a fahaka being ripped open after it dies? Is the poison potent enough to kill the rest of the fish?

[PufferXtreme]

The skin is too tough to bite open.

[NilePufferFanatic]

Fahaka's will not release toxins. My firend had one die of harassment from a clown knife. It was never picked at.

Tetrodotoxin is produced within the puffers by bacteria, which are acquired through food. This means that puffers raised in captivity do not contain tetrodotoxin, and therefore are not poisonous until they come into contact with the bacteria.

[Pufferpunk]

Their skin is poisonous also though, not just their organs. If a fish did take a bite out of a puffer, it would most likely die. If you value your fish, no matter what size it is, the puffer will probably kill it. A 4" fahaka can bite an 8" pleco in half--1 bite!

[Tigriuns™]

I remember having 1 small puffer from the planted tank to clean all the snail ..end up i throw it into a 5ft tank where all the monster is...inside contain..

1x blackaro
4x pacu
1x RTC
2x ST
4x Endi
2x gator gar

all the above fish dare not eat it just look at it...when i 1st throw in my st ate it and less than a sec it spill it out...

well like my fahaka..solo in a tank but these little guy to me is "dangerously poisonous and a very cool fish" no one dare to touch it..THE UNTOUCHABLE :ROFL:

[Pufferpunk]

He'll be "touching" them, soon enough! You have all those monsters in a 4' tank? Wow, what are you upgrading to? They must be tiny!

[Tigriuns™]

He'll be "touching" them, soon enough! You have all those monsters in a 4' tank? Wow, what are you upgrading to? They must be tiny!

it a 5' still got alot of room for them to swim.. the king inside is the gar next is pacu who dun seem to care about any law haha...that was sometime ago..i now keep other fishes...collecting on family... eg ATF family and some catfish family haha

[Pufferpunk]

What size tank are you planning on upgrading to for all those fish?

[noga]

wait fahaka's r poisonous? sry noob question

[Pufferpunk]

Tetrodotoxin (http://divemad.com/fact_file_puffer_fish.htm)