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galatic
06-15-2006, 4:19 AM
Check out this 1 IN A MILLION AMAZING YELLOW SHARK ;)
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/30/1080544467566.html

prm
06-15-2006, 4:28 AM
thats a pretty cool shark :drool:

Gr8KarmaSF
06-15-2006, 4:36 AM
sweet!

ewurm
06-15-2006, 8:43 AM
Does Oddball have one yet?

M|L
06-15-2006, 10:52 AM
are you kidding, the aquarium got it off of oddball.

lol

Timpon
06-15-2006, 11:11 AM
Are they ever offered for sale in the US? They're very common here.

I've caught about 20 in the last month in Botany Bay, up to 5 feet. Not that colour though.
All were released. Most fishermen here regard them as pests.

Most of the lfs here have them for sale from $100 - $150.

deangelo
06-15-2006, 12:20 PM
Are they ever offered for sale in the US? They're very common here.

I've caught about 20 in the last month in Botany Bay, up to 5 feet. Not that colour though.
All were released. Most fishermen here regard them as pests.

Most of the lfs here have them for sale from $100 - $150.

whoa!! post pics man!!:drool: are they brakish? :grinyes:

cichlid savage
06-15-2006, 12:27 PM
OUTSTANDING!!!

Zoodiver
06-15-2006, 12:28 PM
Are they ever offered for sale in the US? They're very common here.

Yes, Port jacksons are around in the US pet trade. Usually couple hundred. None albino like this one.

Honda12
06-15-2006, 12:30 PM
Yeah I have seen that shark before and read an article about it. Pretty cool find. I have seen one port jackson shark forsale before at a LFS.

mcmemily
06-15-2006, 12:30 PM
AWESOME!!!:woot:

Timpon
06-15-2006, 12:58 PM
whoa!! post pics man!!:drool: are they brakish? :grinyes:

All the ones I've encountered have been in total salt water.

Sorry, I don't know how to post pics yet, will get around to it one of these days:(

davo
06-15-2006, 4:48 PM
"but was happy to pose for photographers once prodded."

great. lol. that is a really beautiful looking shark. its not albino just leucistic right?

Legacy
06-16-2006, 1:11 AM
Whoa, you're 2 years late, j/p! In California we have them off our coast and a common name is the "horned shark", not sure if this is the same species as this albino one or not.

blairsteelers
06-16-2006, 1:35 AM
wow..
that shark looks
stunning..
thats dope..

Steve_89
06-16-2006, 1:49 AM
Ill have to check it out one of these days.

Justin_James
06-16-2006, 3:19 PM
Yes these sharks are very common in the pet trade. I personally have 2 bamboo sharks and port jacksons (AKA Horn sharks) can be housed in the same tank with them. They require a minumum or 300 gallons though. Where the bamboo shark requires 180.

No, they are not brackish. This shark along with just about every outher species of true sharks are not able to switch from marine.

This shark hatches from an egg just like the bamboo shark but the egg is different. It looks like a big fat black corkscrew. Where the bamboo sharks eggs are much more transparent with more of a flat/ bubble shape. You can even see the young shark developing inside it.

davo
06-16-2006, 3:22 PM
there are some freshwater sharks and i think some brackish too. a lot of them are protected and i dont think any of them are in the pet trade

Zoodiver
06-17-2006, 9:44 AM
Yes these sharks are very common in the pet trade. I personally have 2 bamboo sharks and port jacksons (AKA Horn sharks) can be housed in the same tank with them. They require a minumum or 300 gallons though. Where the bamboo shark requires 180.

No, they are not brackish. This shark along with just about every outher species of true sharks are not able to switch from marine.

This shark hatches from an egg just like the bamboo shark but the egg is different. It looks like a big fat black corkscrew. Where the bamboo sharks eggs are much more transparent with more of a flat/ bubble shape. You can even see the young shark developing inside it.


As adults, Bamboo get larger than Horn or Port Jackson sharks. Just as a side note, sharks commonly known as Horn and Port Jackson are two different types. Port Jackson are a cold water shark, though they both share the same dorsal spine.


its not albino just leucistic right?

I was guessing albino due to eye color. I could be wrong.

MrRngr94
06-17-2006, 11:25 AM
I'd give my wife's right nut for one of them!

Fishfreak218
06-17-2006, 5:25 PM
that shark is awesome!! I wonder how it survived as a baby

Nic
06-17-2006, 5:36 PM
would love to have him in my collection

RhettD02
06-20-2006, 6:14 PM
thats preeety cool

thefishofdoom
06-20-2006, 9:25 PM
thats a cool shark oh there are true freshwater sharks just very very rare. oh and the bull shark can live in fresh for awhile but its still marine

wingbak48
07-27-2006, 1:29 AM
:headbang2 :headbang2 sweeeeeeeet!!!!!!:headbang2 :headbang2

rkc772
07-27-2006, 2:42 AM
very nice!!!:grinyes:

krj-1168
09-08-2006, 9:26 PM
The Port Jackson's shark is a Lutino - which is similar to an albino - except the lutino has a bright lemon yellow coloration that the albino lacks(albinos are white).

As adults, Bamboo get larger than Horn or Port Jackson sharks.
I'm shocked - Zoodiver. For a shark expert - how could you be so off on this. ;)

You know it's reversed - the Horn & PJ's are larger and more massive than any Bamboo Shark.

The Horn Sharks(H. francisci) - can max out at 4ft (1.2 meters), but usually average just 38"(97 cm) in length. Also the average adult female Horn weights about 22 lbs(10 kg).

The Port Jackson's(H. portusjacksoni) - are the giants of the genus. They can max out at about 5.4 ft (1.65 meters), but usually average about 4.5' (1.37 meters).

The Largest member of the Bamboo genus is the Brown-banded(C. punctatum). They max out at 40"(103 cm), but general average about 3' (91 cm) in length. Also Brown-bandeds never weigh more than 15 lbs.

Just as a side note, sharks commonly known as Horn and Port Jackson are two different types.

True - same genus, but completely different species. The Horn is native to the coast waters of Southern California & Mexico. The Port Jackson's is native Australian coastal waters.

Elasmofreak
09-14-2006, 12:56 AM
I love it when people are wrong! :ROFL:

d20monsteroscar20
09-14-2006, 1:51 AM
I wish I would have something like that to show it to my friends

Don4921
09-14-2006, 11:00 AM
awesome how old is it?

Zoodiver
09-14-2006, 11:07 AM
Ok, you made me go back and look. Any reliable source I've found (including going down the hall and looking at adults of each) - Port Jacksons are smaller. I've had bamboos average much larger than published info on them. But then again, I'm keeping them in big tanks, not some Petco special.

krj-1168
09-14-2006, 12:30 PM
Hmmm ...

Okay - Zoodiver - I have to ask - are your Port Jackson's fully grown - ie over 4' feet in length.

Granted I realize that a 5.5ft Port Jackson is like a 14' Nurse - rarely actually seen. But they still average around 4-4.5' in length - no bamboo or eppies gets that big, especially on for an average size.

I've had bamboos average much larger than published info on them.
Okay then may ask what are you feeding the Bamboos - "Miracle Grow".

I've never seen or even heard of a Bamboo over 40", or Epaulette over 42".

So Need Photos, please.

But then again, I'm keeping them in big tanks, not some Petco special.
:WHOA:

Okay - 1st off I wouldn't recommend any shark in a "Petco special" all "home aquarium" sharks need custom-built tanks that maximizes their potential swimming room. 2nd - Zoodiver - do you realize that the realize how dumb that comment sounds. It sounds like the LFS sales people who claim that - "Yes, you'll be able to keep this Nurse Shark in a 180 gallon aquarium - because it will stay small due to it's living in a small tank". Zoodiver- you should know that statement is pure BS.

It's a simple proven fact -Sharks don't dwarf due to the tank size they are kept in. They grow due to water temperature & how much they are feed.

Which brings me to questions about how your keeping the Port Jackson's - ie water temps.

UnderwaterGirl
09-14-2006, 1:31 PM
Okay - 1st off I wouldn't recommend any shark in a "Petco special" all "home aquarium" sharks need custom-built tanks that maximizes their potential swimming room. 2nd - Zoodiver - do you realize that the realize how dumb that comment sounds. It sounds like the LFS sales people who claim that - "Yes, you'll be able to keep this Nurse Shark in a 180 gallon aquarium - because it will stay small due to it's living in a small tank". Zoodiver- you should know that statement is pure BS.


Zoodiver was obviously being sarcastic in his comment about a Petco Special. Krj, I think maybe you should lighten up a bit. I have kept a port jackson in a public aquarium in 75 degree water and it had been there for many years and only was about 3 and a half feet long. Granted, Port Jackson's should normally be in water in the low 60's, but that is the way this aquarium wanted it.

UnderwaterGirl
09-14-2006, 1:57 PM
Actually, now that i actually looked at a tape measure, I realize i have made a mistake. The port jackson i used to work with was only between 2.5 and 3 feet in length. Right now I work with 3 different species of bamboo sharks, including the largest which is the brown banded bamboo shark. Looking at the brown bandeds, i am pretty sure that they are larger than the port jackson that I worked with. I can get you all a measurement on friday.

Gr8KarmaSF
09-14-2006, 1:59 PM
amazing!

krj-1168
09-14-2006, 3:00 PM
Okay - I may have been a bit hard on Zoodiver.

Generally speaking - the Port Jackson's (Heterodontus portusjacksoni) grows much slower than any Bamboo, and well continue to grow. Bamboos generally reach sexual materity in 2-3 years. Where as Port Jackson's generally take 8-14 years just reach sexual materity at 2.5'-3'.

So while - your PJ is an adult - it hasn't reached it's full adult size yet. That could take 20+ years, to reach.

Also a 3' Horn or PJ is stockier & outweighs a 3' Brown banded Bamboo - even though both are the same length. It has to do with the general build of each species.

And just for the record - length isn't the only was to measure which species is largest. You can also use weight(mass).

Zoodiver
09-17-2006, 9:03 AM
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It's a simple proven fact -Sharks don't dwarf due to the tank size they are kept in. They grow due to water temperature & how much they are feed.
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Stop the presses. New info just released....sharks can't be growth stunted due to small tank size.

Who proved this fact? Just curious.

And are you really commenting on an animal here that you have never seen? (Refering to the adult PJ comment.)

krj-1168
09-17-2006, 2:44 PM
Yes, Zoodiver - I have seen a Port Jackson's before. At a public Aquarium - but it wasn't full grown - only about 3' long I would estimate.

No, I've never seen a 4.5-5' Port Jackson's, personally. But then I've never had the pleasure of seeing a Whale Shark, or a Great White Shark, in person either. But I know they exist - I've seen Photos & video footage of them. Also I've seen photos(taken in the wild) of 14' Nurses & 5' Port Jackson's - so they exist also.

Just because you do see someting in person or have never experienced something does not mean it doesn't exist.

Based on all the wild reports I've read(including some for Australia) about the Port Jackson, they all state that it averages 4.5' in length at full size(maxs out at 5.5') - which takes nearly 20 years.

By the way Zoodiver - you keep saying that your bamboo is longer than your PJ. But what about their weights. Also how long have you had the PJ's and Bamboo?

sharks can't be growth stunted due to small tank size.

Who proved this fact? Just curious.

Gee - let me think - How about the dozens of sharks that die every year do to being put in to aquariums that are too small(yes I know that it usually other health related issues that eventually kill the sharks). Caused by stupid, possible misinformed or unethical LFS sales people that keep saying to misinformed novice shark keepers that - yes the shark can stay in this small tank(a nurse in a 180 or a bamboo in a 50). It really the one biggest problems of Shark husbandary

Also by the way here's a good website for you to check out

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharks.htm

Zoodiver
09-17-2006, 3:03 PM
I think you missed my point on that last bit:
You said they can NOT be gowth stunted, then turned around and said they can be in a follow up post.

My point was they will be VERY stunted.

krj-1168
09-17-2006, 5:46 PM
Opps - my bad.

Sorry about that.

My typo dislexia bug - struck again. :(

Justin_James
09-17-2006, 7:03 PM
A banded bamboo will rarley reach 42" even in the Ocean. They usually only reach around 3.5' from all the research and specimens i've ever seen. From my understandings through years of research i've always believed that PJ's reach a great size than banded bamboos.

krj-1168
09-17-2006, 10:19 PM
Not to get all technical on you, Justin - but 42" and 3.5' are the exact same.

But I do agree with your point.

The fact is Bamboos & Eppies are general fast growers - reaching sexually maturity in 2-3 years and will generally reach full adult size in about 6-8 years from birth. Where the Port Jackson's are one of the slowest growing members of the Bullhead/horn genus. They can take 8-12 years just to reach sexually maturity - then takes an addition 10-12 years to reach full size about 4 - 4.5'.

Justin_James
09-18-2006, 9:51 PM
Hahaha. Sorry that was a typo. I ment to say 42" max in the wild and average of 3' in most cases.

krj-1168
09-18-2006, 10:14 PM
I understand perfectly.

I know I hate it when - the typo bug strikes. ;)

WannaShark
11-07-2006, 2:22 AM
thats so cool.

nativelover
11-07-2006, 2:51 AM
i caught a horn shark that looked just like that last march...it was only 16" though. also i seem to get alot of leopards that look like that also. but usually during march and july (breeding season).