RTC X TSN

[ZOO YORK 207]

my hybrid 6"

[te9500rpm]

hmmm it still kinda looks like a TSN. but thats a great hybrid!

[ZOO YORK 207]

thnx you avatar is halarious:ROFL: how ever did you get that pic?

[stotty]

My one looks nothing like your bad boy. How long have you had him?

[ZOO YORK 207]

like 2 months

[necrocanis]

here we go again everyone throwing around pics of their tsn x rtc hybrids lol! Here's mine for good measure! Somewhere around 2 years old and 27-28" and fat as can be! Eh, what the heck! Here's pics of all three of my hybrids just in case anyone was wondering what they all look like! Enjoy boys!

[necrocanis]

stotty when are you gonna get us an updated pic of yours? i am sure he is much bigger now, you have had him for some time! I love the coloration on your's zooyork! Let's hope he keeps that in the future. Come to think of it there are 3 species of tsn, you never know your's might be a mix between a different species and the rtc! Oh yeah, i wanted to mention also that everyone says they slow their eating down when they get bigger, they obviously never met mine, lol! He is still eating like mad! I trap minnows for him out of the river, and also feed him plenty of shrimp! He eats probably 1-2lbs. of shrimp per week!

[te9500rpm]

thnx you avatar is halarious:ROFL: how ever did you get that pic?

its a pic of my silly ass mutt :ROFL: female was licking his (thing) and he gave that expression so my cuzin took a pic of him haha :ROFL:

[te9500rpm]

nice pics of hybrids guys! :)

[ZOO YORK 207]

thnx

[stotty]

stotty when are you gonna get us an updated pic of yours? i am sure he is much bigger now, you have had him for some time! I love the coloration on your's zooyork! Let's hope he keeps that in the future. Come to think of it there are 3 species of tsn, you never know your's might be a mix between a different species and the rtc! Oh yeah, i wanted to mention also that everyone says they slow their eating down when they get bigger, they obviously never met mine, lol! He is still eating like mad! I trap minnows for him out of the river, and also feed him plenty of shrimp! He eats probably 1-2lbs. of shrimp per week!


:ROFL: I know I know it’s just a good clean picture and he has taken to becoming quite nocturnal. I will make an effort to get one in the next few days when I do I will let you know :swear: things eating for England.

[stotty]

stotty when are you gonna get us an updated pic of yours? i am sure he is much bigger now, you have had him for some time! I love the coloration on your's zooyork! Let's hope he keeps that in the future. Come to think of it there are 3 species of tsn, you never know your's might be a mix between a different species and the rtc! Oh yeah, i wanted to mention also that everyone says they slow their eating down when they get bigger, they obviously never met mine, lol! He is still eating like mad! I trap minnows for him out of the river, and also feed him plenty of shrimp! He eats probably 1-2lbs. of shrimp per week!


Right this is as good as it get his head his tail till the pond is finished i think i will be using the old one:D He has got to be 18" now its a bit of a cat party in there TSN and TSN/RTC X and my old clarius

[necrocanis]

gorgeous, they certainly love that drift wood! That thing is growing like mad! Before you know it he'll be the size of mine!

[stotty]

gorgeous, they certainly love that drift wood! That thing is growing like mad! Before you know it he'll be the size of mine!



Got a better pic had to go out there when the light were off so when i say better well its all of him:D

[necrocanis]

nice dark coloration on him stotty. He's a beauty. Sometimes I wonder why so many people hate hybrids when I look at them. At least the catfish hybrids I have seen are beautiful, and are not deformed in any way! You plan on keeping him for life? I am going to keep mine for life. Hopefully that's a long time from now! I want to be one of the first if not the first to grow one of these to 4ft!

[stotty]

nice dark coloration on him stotty. He's a beauty. Sometimes I wonder why so many people hate hybrids when I look at them. At least the catfish hybrids I have seen are beautiful, and are not deformed in any way! You plan on keeping him for life? I am going to keep mine for life. Hopefully that's a long time from now! I want to be one of the first if not the first to grow one of these to 4ft!



We have both experienced the scorn of the Hybrid haters. As I said before Hybridisation happens all the time with fish in the wild and before I get it in the ear again i will say :p to them.I think he is a stunning looking fish. So :swear: to them.

[ZOO YORK 207]

you got that right my RTC X TSN grew 2" in 2months gotta go change my signature

[necrocanis]

:WHOA: just measured mine today at 28 1/2 inches. He's grown half an inch in half a month. Hmmm, i'll slow my feeding schedule when he hits 3ft. :grinyes: Stotty i know what you mean. I try to tell people all the time about how a hybrids cannot reproduce and if accidentally or intentionally released into the wild they will not reproduce or breed with other types of fish and thin out the origional bloodline like everyone thinks. I hear a lot of talk about how if a hybrid gets into the wild it will reak havok on local populations. this just can't happen. either it will live out it's life and die a virgin, hehe, die during the first winter, or get caught and possibly eaten by a fisherman. They cannot thin out the bloodline of full blooded animals cause they are infertile! Only a very small percentage of hybrids are fertile, and even then good luck finding two of the same hybrid that are fertile, and then they reproduce. Well even if they did reproduce you wouldn't get more hybrids. Genetics just don't match like that. You would get two of the origional full blooded species that produced the hybrids in the first place. So someone please tell me how hybrids are bad for the hobby. I wish I could get another one!:headbang2 :thumbsup:

[Dirty Old Man]

I got one of these guys maybe 6 weeks ago and it has well over doubled in size. I bought it @ about 2.5" and it's @ about 6" now. I know they get huge. I'm wondering if they'll be ok (when fully grown or nearly so) in a 250/300 gal aquarium or if I need to take a different route. How much are they expected to weight when full grown? And given that, will he bother my clown knife and royal knife? (Again, this is when they're full grown and the knives should hit around 40".)

[ZOO YORK 207]

mine is changing pattern now

[necrocanis]

even when your knife is fully grown it will be extremly slender and it's lateral height will be small. You're looking at a cat that both parent species can get to 6ft. in the wild. As stated before mine is at 28 1/2 inches at less than 2 years of age. Go for a minimum footprint on your tank of 4ft. x 10ft. even then just pray he never gets more than 4 ft. not sure anyone has ever raise one completely as they seem to be a relatively new hybrid. In the catfish forum at the top the post catfish sticky i have some info on them. Expect with proper feeding and housing they will outgrow either parent fish. I wouldn't be suprised if they hit 5 ft and 100+lbs. in their lifetime. With that said some hybrids grow to more than double the parent species size like ligers for instance. largest tigers are around 600-700lbs. and largest lions are around 500-600lbs. the liger is a hybrid of the two and can reach wieghts of over 1200 lbs. so who knows what we have on our hands. They might get to 200 lbs. in aquariums. We just dont' know till someone has had one in proper conditions for 20 + years.

[necrocanis]

oh yeah, point being do you trust having a 40 inch slender fish with a 62+ inch fish that is exremely wide and bulky? i have seen a 15 lb. rtc eat a 5 lbs. large mouth bass. Took him 2 weeks to digest it and finally swallow the tail. Man that was a stinky tank! RTC was around 27 inches, and the large mouth bass was around 18-20 inches.

[Dirty Old Man]

oh yeah, point being do you trust having a 40 inch slender fish with a 62+ inch fish that is exremely wide and bulky? i have seen a 15 lb. rtc eat a 5 lbs. large mouth bass. Took him 2 weeks to digest it and finally swallow the tail. Man that was a stinky tank! RTC was around 27 inches, and the large mouth bass was around 18-20 inches.


Good point. Then I'll just have to take him out when he gets larger. So for a fish of this magnatude, would you suggest an aquarium or a pond? For that matter, which would be cheaper being it'll need quite a bit of moving/turning room?

[ZOO YORK 207]

Good point. Then I'll just have to take him out when he gets larger. So for a fish of this magnatude, would you suggest an aquarium or a pond? For that matter, which would be cheaper being it'll need quite a bit of moving/turning room?
pond most definatly necro will help you with it he is amazing at building ponds im going to make one soon too

[Dirty Old Man]

Then a pond it is. Necro, since you were nominated by zoo york, what would be your recommendations on building one? What do I need in order to build one?

[necrocanis]

there are many other people in here that would be better suited to help. I have only used preformed tubs from local farm supply stores. I have never actually made a pond. If you are going to make it and not get a preformed cattle trough then I would get some heavy gauge pond liner and plenty of 2x4s. You would need to find a space that you are going to build it and design your pond around that. You can use the 2x4s or you can use brick. I have seen both used. Look through the threads here in indoor ponds to give you some ideas, and pm the members that have ponds you really like and ask what they did. I would try to make your pond at least 8-10ft. x 4-6ft x2-3ft. tall. And if you get one of the cattle troughs good luck on getting anything bigger than the 6 ft dia through your doorway without taking out walls. Look through all the posts in this section. They inspired me when I got to work on mine. Feel free to ask more questions. Also be aware that the spot where it will be needs to be able to support several tons of wieght in one spot. You might have to renforce your floors if it is not going to be in a basement/garage with a concrete floor. Good luck

[necrocanis]

I meant to say for you to go into the indoor ponds forum for pics and advice!

[BigWig25]

Hey I know about the RTCXTSN but what r the other 2 hybreds? O I know this is an old chat but I own 2 RCTX Marble cat hybred

[unknownuza13]

You know now that isn't a RTC x TSN hybrid right?

[toehead11183]

bump...lets get this going again, i'm sure there are more pics to add since this thread dies 2 years ago