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Maich
04-07-2010, 1:35 PM
I'm planning on having LARGE pieces of driftwood and realistic fake plants...

I need to know what type of substrate you guys think i should use, I was thinking natural colored gravel, because sand is a pain in the ass to do maintenance on... Any suggestions?

Edit: also im looking for a substrate that will bring out all the colors in my discus, i plan on having 50/50 actinic/daylights in the tank.

Edit: i will have undergravel/sand pvc with slits all along the pipes, pushing about 2000 gph, would sand still work?

clownie33
04-07-2010, 1:37 PM
black tahitian moon sand is great for ph and holds temp well if you what more natural you could use amozon red sand but the black would really make the colors on your discus pop

clownie33
04-07-2010, 1:40 PM
I need to know what type of substrate you guys think i should use, I was thinking natural colored gravel, because sand is a pain in the ass to do maintenance on...




sand is not at all hard to do maitenance on all the **** just sits on top and all you have to do is hover with your gravel vac what difficulties have you had maintaning your sands because i have had none

DanG13
04-07-2010, 1:41 PM
I have noticed when I use black colored sand/gravel the
colors of my fish come out alot more. You know what they
say "once you go black you never go back". lol

Maich
04-07-2010, 1:42 PM
Im always a cluts and end up sucking a bunch of sand right out of the tank... i do have aragonite in my 55 gallon african and i really like it... Also another factor i forgot to tell you guys, i am going to have undergravel pvc, with slits cut all along the top pushing about 2000gph coming from under the gravel/sand, would the sand fly into the water?

clownie33
04-07-2010, 1:44 PM
no it shouldn't fly up to much if anything it would just keep the **** from ever hitting the sand and it would just go into your filter then all you would ever have to do is siphon the water out and you wouldnt even have to worry about your gravel vac sucking up sand since you said that is your problem with sand

Maich
04-07-2010, 1:48 PM
no it shouldn't fly up to much if anything it would just keep the **** from ever hitting the sand and it would just go into your filter then all you would ever have to do is siphon the water out and you wouldnt even have to worry about your gravel vac sucking up sand since you said that is your problem with sand

Ok, that may be what i do then. Will driftwood and plants look good with this sand?

clownie33
04-07-2010, 1:52 PM
driftwood and plants look great and if you wanted you could build a stacked slate cave looks good to i did that in mine if you are going to use live plant put a small layer of enriched argonite or substrate under the sand and it will give them something easier to root in and provide more nutrients than the sand alone

DiscusOnly
04-07-2010, 2:23 PM
I have noticed when I use black colored sand/gravel the
colors of my fish come out alot more. You know what they
say "once you go black you never go back". lol

Depending on the strain of discus. Dark color background or substrates will bring out the peppering in pigeon based discus. In general, color of discus will be darker as well.

Maich: If pool filter sand is too fine for you, try silica sand gravel. That's what I use in my wild discus tank. I didn't want to use the regular pool filter sand in this tank because it's acrylic.

Maich
04-07-2010, 2:37 PM
Depending on the strain of discus. Dark color background or substrates will bring out the peppering in pigeon based discus. In general, color of discus will be darker as well.

Maich: If pool filter sand is too fine for you, try silica sand gravel. That's what I use in my wild discus tank. I didn't want to use the regular pool filter sand in this tank because it's acrylic.


Thats true... And i would definitely like to have some pigeon bloods. The background is already black though, is there a substrate i can use that wont show up poop and debris on the bottom of the tank, that is heavy enough so i can have my PVC thingymajig?

DiscusOnly
04-07-2010, 2:49 PM
First of all, what is the PVC thingymajig thing supposed to do? Are you planning to do a planted tank or just tank with some dw? Keeping discus is simple if you keep things simple.

If you don't like to see poop on the bottom, the best way to do is to vac it up. If you get some clean pigeon based discus, the black background won't be that bad.

I gravel sand I recommend is much heavier than the pool filter sand but these are still relatively small.

Mattyou
04-07-2010, 4:59 PM
With your pvc setup your tank will look like the dust bowl if you use sand, post pictures.
I recommend natural gravel, even river rock from the hardware store well rinsed. Cheap and natural looking, reverse flow filter wont blow it into the water column.
Like I said, post some pics if u use sand and reverse flow so I can enjoy em.

Mattyou
04-07-2010, 5:02 PM
I have noticed when I use black colored sand/gravel the
colors of my fish come out alot more. You know what they
say "once you go black you never go back". lol
I always hear "Once you go black you start smoking crack and that **** is whack"
East Coast I guess.

clownie33
04-08-2010, 7:56 AM
if you don't want the poop and junk to show as much go with the amozon river red substrate you can find it on aquaruimplants .com and you can find drift wood and all the other stuff your looking for plus the amozon subtrate already comes enriched so you wouldn't need another base substrate for your plants

snoopy65
04-08-2010, 8:04 AM
Unless you are planning on doing a thorough gravel vaccing every day, I would go with a white or light colored sand. Discus require very clean water and too much stuff gets stuck down in the gravel. Your black background will darken and or pepper all discus except albino strains. The light bottom should help counter act that, but understand, discus attempt to match their color to their surroundings so if their surroundings are dark, so will they be. I also would look at getting discus at least 4" in size. Smaller/ juvie discus require even more maintenance and multiple daily feedings or they will stunt. The larger the discus is when you get them, the more forgiving they are as far as maintenance goes.