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unknownuza13
07-18-2005, 3:56 PM
I have heard both of these to be very intelligent creatures. Does anyone have any evidence or insight as to which one would be reconized as the more intelligent being. I was just curious...I have a fahaka puffer and can tell he is very aware of his surroundings outside the tank and definately reconizes me over others in a very short amount of time. I had a ray as well but it died after a few weeks so....

Miles
07-18-2005, 6:26 PM
Ooo tough call.. I don't have enough personal ray keeping experience, but puffers are very intelligent. My fahaka sounds just like yours. I think puffer fans are going to say Puffers, and Ray fans will say Rays.. and there are more Ray fans here then puffer fans :)

iheartfishies
07-18-2005, 6:29 PM
I'm for puffers!

Yay for Mr Fahaka and Mr Palembangensis!!:)

bluedempsey
07-18-2005, 6:30 PM
i would have to lean towards puffers....... :rolleyes:

ShadowVengance
07-18-2005, 6:43 PM
i heard somewhere that puffers are about as smart as dogs? or was the octopus'....

piranha45
07-18-2005, 9:55 PM
i heard somewhere that puffers are about as smart as dogs? or was the octopus'....
octopi prolly

Chad55
07-19-2005, 12:57 AM
I would go with rays being smarter just because I like them better :headbang2

thamunsta
07-19-2005, 1:41 AM
im thinking of getting a fahaka what should i know about them before i go ahead and do so?

piranha45
07-19-2005, 12:09 PM
im thinking of getting a fahaka what should i know about them before i go ahead and do so?
any tankmates kept with a fahaka are in perpetual danger of being killed in a sudden anger fit. so make sure any tankmates you keep with it are disposeable. Make sure you have a 125g or larger to house it in as it approaches adult size. other than that, enjoy it.

rayman45
07-19-2005, 12:45 PM
rays are cool
but my mbu would let he hold him during w/c's


my rays would eat from my hands.
ummm

puffers beacause rays need alot of care

Miles
07-19-2005, 12:54 PM
any tankmates kept with a fahaka are in perpetual danger of being killed in a sudden anger fit. so make sure any tankmates you keep with it are disposeable. Make sure you have a 125g or larger to house it in as it approaches adult size. other than that, enjoy it.

I wouldn't say as much fits of anger, as fits of hunger. I have never seen a puffer get 'angry', except for the one time a parrot fish decided to eat food that was halfway hanging out the fahaka's mouth. The puffer got this look in his eye like the stay-puffed marshmellow man, and absolutely destroyed the parrot's face.

You will need a big tank for these guys. I would say the larger the capacity the better, as it allows for more water volume which usually means better water quality.. The important part is the dimensions. A full grown Puffer needs adequate 'turn-space'.. No matter the gallons, make sure you go with a 24" deep tank, rather than the traditional 18". I house mine in a tank that is 48x24x24.

thamunsta
07-19-2005, 1:39 PM
thats the same size ill be keeping mine in

Miles
07-19-2005, 2:02 PM
Sounds good. I have had success keeping him with a comparable sized school of Tinfoil Barbs, and a Green Severum.. He eats anything he can catch though.. IE: Plecos.

evilfish
07-29-2005, 11:23 AM
puffers are smarter!! does anyone know the eventual size of a mbu or a fahaka?

ShadowVengance
07-29-2005, 11:53 AM
puffers are smarter!! does anyone know the eventual size of a mbu or a fahaka?

43 cm / 17 inches

a foot and a half.

piranha45
07-29-2005, 5:08 PM
mbu get 2 feet

Konrade
08-11-2005, 2:26 AM
definitely rays... :headbang2