Snake heads (illegal)

[Nate_N_Nicole]

Well friends I live in the wonderfull state of Michigan and you know the great lakes so if you love water and fishing and all that good stuff you'll love it hear... (and if you dont mind a little snow) well anyways going fishing in the great lakes is fun you can catch bass, catfish, bluegill and SNAKE HEADS>>> :22_yikes: I dont know if any of you outside Michigan people know that snake heads are Illegal in Michigan... I guess, and this is just a guess that snake heads can adapt to our cold weather and can live in our cold water... I only know this because fishermen have been catching snake heads in Lake Erie for years but any how I love snake heads but they dont sell in Michigan anymore because of this... :cry:

Dont take this the wrong way I dont want any right now but I think it is stupid to make them illegal, but just my opinion.... What do you guys think!!! And are they Illegal in your state too?... :feedback:

[fishnthings]

theyre illegal in illinios, i want one but have no where to catch or get one, i dont think theres a reason for them to be illegal either.

[The TRUST]

They are now illegal to sell, posess, and transport across state lines in the whole USA

Only ones you can keep are the ones that were already your pets before they set the ban and given that before the nationwide ban they were legal in that state.

[Peanut_Power]

Yeah, they are pretty much freakin illegal in all the USA...i think Maryland is about the only state that can sell them (dwarf tropical species only), and thats just within the state...like you have to live and keep it in Maryland. Sucks....but why the heck is this in the cichlids? Please do fill me in....

[The TRUST]

Nope they are bannned everywhere in the USA

Didn't notice that it was in Cichlids. It's moved now. LOL!

[Nate_N_Nicole]

that sucks :swear:

[STONEDFISH]

Congrats.....that law creates a whole new black market. The government loves to get those going.

:swear:

[catfish]

i dont understand why a fish would be illegal to keep other than it being endangered. how can i find out what fish are illegal to have in my state(michigan)

[Springtyme]

From what I've been told, snakeheads get HUGE in the wild and since they can walk and breathe out of the water, and have no living known predators, it makes them very dangerous to our native fish... Here's a news article I just pulled off Google, hopefully it explains a little more...

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/09/24/critters.maryland.snakehead/

[beblondie]

MICHIGAN --

R 299.1051 Importation, transportation, and sale of live fishes or viable eggs of the salmonidae family.
Rule 1. (1) No person shall import live fishes or viable eggs of the family of the salmonidae from without the state or transport or sell such fishes or viable eggs within the state, except under authority of a permit issued by the director of the department of natural resources, hereinafter referred to as the director.
(2) Applications for permits to import or transport live fishes or viable eggs of the family salmonidae shall be made on forms provided by the director and shall contain the following data and such other information as may be required for the purpose of controlling the spread of diseases of fishes, including, but not limited to, infectious pancreatic necrosis (IPN); viral hemorrhagic septicemia (egtved virus); and myxosoma cerebralis (whirling disease): (a) species, (b ) name and address of shipper, ( c) name of carrier, (d) type of transportation, (e) name and address of hatchery where fishes or eggs were produced, (f) name of broker through whom shipment is made, if any, and (g) the approximate number or weight of fishes or eggs to be imported or transported.
(3) Importation permits will be issued only for fish stock or eggs, or both, from sources certified free of IPN, egtved, whirling disease, or other diseases of fishes which may threaten resident fish stocks. The certification shall be made by a person holding a degree from an accredited college in 1 of the sciences and specializing in diseases of fishes and whose name appears on a register to be established and maintained by the director. Certification shall be reviewed not less frequently than once every 6 months.
(4) Fish stocks of the family salmonidae held or in transport under authority of a game fish breeder's license shall be subject to inspection by designated representatives of the director. Such inspection may include removal of reasonable quantities of stock for biological samples.
(5) Permits to sell and transport fishes or eggs within the state shall be issued only for stocks certified to be free of diseases, including, but not limited to, IPN, egtved, and whirling disease. Permits to sell and transport fishes and eggs within the state shall be issued for a time period not to exceed 6 months.
(6) Commencing August 15, 1969, licensed game fish breeders shall have available for examination by the director or his designated representatives records of inventory of fish stocks as of August 15, 1969, and evidence of all purchases and sales of fishes and viable eggs made subsequent to August 15, 1969, except that the records need be maintained in any year for the current year and the 2 prior years only. Information obtained from such records shall be confidential to the department of natural resources.

R 299.1052 Importation of other species.
Rule 2. No fish or eggs of the species misgurnus anguillicaudatus (Japanese weatherfish), ctenopharyngodon idellus (grass carp), leuciscus idus (ide), scardinius erythrophthalamus (rudd), rhodeus sericeus (bitterling) or tinca tinca (tench) shall be imported into Michigan except by permit issued by the director.

Source: Michigan Dept. of Natural Resources, Fisheries Division regulations.
http://www.state.mi.us/orr/emi/admincode.a...Dpt=NR&RngHigh=

[beblondie]

Wheres the Federal law that makes Snakeheads illegal across the entire country?
the only Federal law I know of makes it illegal to import into the country or across
state lines
SUMMARY: The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service adds all species of
snakehead fishes in the Channidae family to the list of injurious fish,
mollusks, and crustaceans. By this action, the Service prohibits the
importation into or transportation between the continental United
States, the District of Columbia, Hawaii, the Commonwealth of Puerto
Rico, or any territory or possession of the United States. The best
available information indicates that this action is necessary to
protect wildlife and wildlife resources from the purposeful or
accidental introduction and subsequent establishment of snakehead
populations in ecosystems of the United States. Live snakehead fishes
or viable eggs can be imported only by permit for scientific, medical,
educational, or zoological purposes, or without a permit by Federal
agencies solely for their own use; permits will also be required for
the interstate transportation of live snakeheads or viable eggs
currently held in the United States, for scientific, medical,
educational, or zoological purposes. This final rule becomes effective
immediately upon publication.

LIL blonde girl summary of the above :Federal law only prohibits importation Into the United states,The district of Columbia and the commonwealth of puerto rico and transportation across state lines.Therefore If i live in a state ie. WI and there are no local ordinances against posession its legal for me to keep snakeheads as long as I purchase them localy ie within the state borders-Anne

[guppy]

Stupid law, the most invasive and destructive fish in the country is already everywhere, the common bluegill.

[BGG]

Definitley. And largemouth bass. They are HIGHLY invasive. As far as I know, they are not illegal nation-wide... they are legal in VERY few states though. And interstate transportation of them is illegal, as Anne said. And they do have natural predators, and even predators here. Don't get me wrong, it's very bad that they're running around in US waters, as it is with many other invasive species... but, it's insanity to outlaw them because some are loose in rivers. LMB and bluegill aren't outlawed in a lot of states, but they're still all over where they aren't native.

[piranha45]

and gambusia affinis!

[BGG]

and gambusia affinis!
lol... yep. We have a lot of invasive natives, and they've been introduced into states and areas that they don't belong.

[Oddball]

Breed a snakehead adjusted to eat fire ants or killer bees or german cockroaches and they may drop the snakehead ban.

[guppy]

and gambusia affinis!
The gambies have driven out a lot of native top minnows and a few killies but at least make good forage. I'm not saying we should cross-spread species, I'm just saying bans should be based on real science, not sound bites.

[beblondie]

http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/StateSearch.asp

[gigas12]

Non native fishes have been introduced all over the world .

[LobstersGoPeenchPeench]

dude but the thing is that its a fishy world out there... sure theres gunna be some huge snakehead out there breeding, but theres also gunna be large mouth, blue gills, walleye, muskies, gars, pikes and catfish that are gunna eat the babies.... i mean sure they get huge but so do muskies and alligator gar, and basically all of the american cats and pikes get the same size i dont get it

[Vandecruz]

Anyway its kinda sad to know that U.S banned our cute SH orelse there will be a bigger market in the world of SH and by the way i have heard one of the true story from one of my friend from the U.S,altought i dun remember the exact location of where the incident happens but just hope to share with u guys that i guess a few years back there is a group of soldier camping near a lake and one of the soldier happen to noticed some movement in the water and out of curiosity ,he went near the lake and take alook what excatly on earth is that creating such a big movement in the water ,so unlucky that eventually under that pool of water happen to be a hugh Micropelties SH Mother guarding her nest and when the soldier try to draw nearer toward the water ,the SH jump out of the water knocking into that soldier ankle and eventually broke it as in can u imagined how big the impact is when the SH dash out of the water attacking the soldier and lastly the soldier died because he is too far away from the hospital that can jolly well saved him........After hearing this story i salute to the Micropelties Monster SH Species as in they were truly amazing and Killer


{Cannot be substantiated. Another urban legend}

[LobstersGoPeenchPeench]

ya but an alligator gar could easily eat children and and adults and their all up in the mississippi river

[woodyoz]

Anyway its kinda sad to know that U.S banned our cute SH orelse there will be a bigger market in the world of SH and by the way i have heard one of the true story from one of my friend from the U.S,altought i dun remember the exact location of where the incident happens but just hope to share with u guys that i guess a few years back there is a group of soldier camping near a lake and one of the soldier happen to noticed some movement in the water and out of curiosity ,he went near the lake and take alook what excatly on earth is that creating such a big movement in the water ,so unlucky that eventually under that pool of water happen to be a hugh Micropelties SH Mother guarding her nest and when the soldier try to draw nearer toward the water ,the SH jump out of the water knocking into that soldier ankle and eventually broke it as in can u imagined how big the impact is when the SH dash out of the water attacking the soldier and lastly the soldier died because he is too far away from the hospital that can jolly well saved him........After hearing this story i salute to the Micropelties Monster SH Species as in they were truly amazing and Killer

these are the kinda fake stories that make snakeheads infamous....im surprised ur frnd didnt say the snakehead jumped out and choke slammed the soilder and he died

[JD7.62]

Whats the point in bumping and continuing a three year old thread full of BS in the first place?