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Zfishies
10-09-2010, 4:08 PM
Like the titles says can you? I have ALOT of it but how would I melt it and get it into a shape I want? (like a circle/ring shape)

Oddball
10-09-2010, 4:16 PM
There's a reason you don't see pyrite jewelry. Pyrite doesn't melt when heated. Heating will cause pyrite to give off it's sulphur content leaving a pyrite pseudomorph called pyrrhotite behind. Continued heating causes the iron content to oxidize (rust).

Zfishies
10-09-2010, 4:30 PM
So in simple words no? What other metal objects can I do want I want with then?

Oddball
10-09-2010, 4:37 PM
Any true metal or metal alloy. Pyrite is not a metal. It's a mineral salt.

Zfishies
10-09-2010, 4:42 PM
OHH I ok I get it now but could I use a stove to heat a metal to liquid point? What kind of metal are those poles(metal) made out of?

Zfishies
10-09-2010, 4:44 PM
I kno am not sounding clear here but what if I got a metal pole cut it and then get a nail really hot and incrave a sentence on the metal pole/ring.... But more
Importantly are there any poles that are just enough to fit around your finger? Again sorry of this sounds confusing

Twofish
10-09-2010, 4:50 PM
I dont think you could do this with a kitchen stove. i think you need higher temperatures and they have special heating devices for this stuff. plus when the metal is heated it is dangerous before it cools so you would probably also need something special to hold it. picture the blacksmiths from the movies when they are making things. they use special torches and tongs and protective eye wear. the eye wear is so important because heated metals can give off sparks or metal shavings also possibly if you are engraving them. i feel that you have an idea in mind you are trying tomake and i admire your creativity. unfortunately i think its gonna be a little bit complicated.

Zfishies
10-09-2010, 5:31 PM
Ohhh ok thanks didn't know u neededthat much stuff hmmm maybe something store bought then lol and try to ingrave something on that this is gna be harder then I thought

Ancient_Fish_Master
10-09-2010, 5:36 PM
There's a reason you don't see pyrite jewelry. Pyrite doesn't melt when heated. Heating will cause pyrite to give off it's sulphur content leaving a pyrite pseudomorph called pyrrhotite behind. Continued heating causes the iron content to oxidize (rust).

dang oddball you could of just said no lol

likestofish
10-09-2010, 7:20 PM
Really the only thing you could do is melt aluminum. But you will need a blast forge and also casting is a major pain in the but. With all the time you would put into making the forge the ring and then the grinding and polishing you could have gotten a job to buy a ring.

Zfishies
10-09-2010, 7:32 PM
Well am not trying to forge it(if u mean by faking it) am just trying to make my own kind of ring for this girl I like.... By aluminum do u mean aluminum foil? How would I make a a casting ? Any ring I can just buy (cheap) and in grave something on it ?

rizzle
10-09-2010, 7:35 PM
go to a store buy a ring and get them to ingrave it... problem solved

likestofish
10-09-2010, 7:43 PM
As in a forge that melts metal and yeah aluminum foil works but you could get scrap aluminum at a recycling center. Also ingraving a cheaper ring will show the cheaper metal on the inside of it.
Also i just remembered you have been going out with this girl all of less then a week. So i just want to tell you not to go bonkers with this. Because this seems like you are just going to fast with this.

Zfishies
10-09-2010, 7:54 PM
go to a store buy a ring and get them to ingrave it... problem solved
Cantt the rents kno ;)

you could go rent and learn how to use and oxy acetelyn rig.
use that to melt basically any metal that you want but pennies work well.
you then would either pour or draw out the metal *i recomend pouring into a mold* to make a wire you chose the thickness square works. then you would let it cool cut off the amount that you wish to use to make your ring or bracelet find a round object and heat to flexible the metal and use a smooth faced hammer to knock the wire into it's round shape. then you would again let it cool take a medium to fine round or half moon file and shap/ smooth it . soulder the ends together or spot weld them basically melt and fuse. use a fine rounded file to smooth ring into final shape. polish polish polish polish. then polish some more.
that is the basic steps to making round jewlery at home.

side note the easier / faster metal melts the softer and more likely it will be to deform after this process is done you might want to start off practising with led or copper pennies work but if you tell any one you used them you are admiting breaking the law.

SAFTEY NOTE SOME METALS GIVE OFF TOXIC CHEMICALS WHEN MELTING. HOT METAL IS HOT BE CAREFUL. LEARN HOW TO USE ALL EQUITMENT AFORE USEING IT. ALWAYS USE ALL APPLICABLE P.P.E. THE WELDING RIG IS DANGEROUS AND IF IT CAN MELT METAL IT CAN MELT YOU TOO.well it has to be simple, so there is metal that I can shape easily it seems and it can't really be dangerous, am thinking of just buying one


As in a forge that melts metal and yeah aluminum foil works but you could get scrap aluminum at a recycling center. Also ingraving a cheaper ring will show the cheaper metal on the inside of it.
Also i just remembered you have been going out with this girl all of less then a week. So i just want to tell you not to go bonkers with this. Because this seems like you are just going to fast with this. well if the cheaper metal shows am ok with it as long it doesn't look too taky am not talking it fast this over the course of weeks

Lepisosteus platyrhincus
10-09-2010, 7:56 PM
As in a forge that melts metal and yeah aluminum foil works but you could get scrap aluminum at a recycling center. Also ingraving a cheaper ring will show the cheaper metal on the inside of it.
Also i just remembered you have been going out with this girl all of less then a week. So i just want to tell you not to go bonkers with this. Because this seems like you are just going to fast with this.
good luck tryin to melt aluminum in a fire:ROFL:

redman88
10-09-2010, 8:01 PM
http://www.instructables.com/id/Ultimate-Guide-to-Making-a-Cheap-but-Effective-Alu/

this sit is wonderfull

rizzle
10-09-2010, 8:13 PM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE RENTS KNOW LOL

oops caps lock

likestofish
10-09-2010, 8:37 PM
good luck tryin to melt aluminum in a fire:ROFL:

what do you mean by a fire? Because i heat treat knives with the blast forge and thats more than enough to melt aluminum.

Bderick67
10-09-2010, 8:45 PM
Just buy a pack of chewing gum. Chew the gum, use the wrappers to make jewelry:thumbsup:

likestofish
10-09-2010, 8:49 PM
Just buy a pack of chewing gum. Chew the gum, use the wrappers to make jewelry:thumbsup:

Good idea or make a ring from a dollar

Bderick67
10-09-2010, 9:34 PM
Good idea or make a ring from a dollar

That could be a bit costly;)

Lepisosteus platyrhincus
10-09-2010, 9:39 PM
what do you mean by a fire? Because i heat treat knives with the blast forge and thats more than enough to melt aluminum.
aluminum has a nasty habit of burning if not done right

Oddball
10-09-2010, 9:58 PM
dang oddball you could of just said no lol

I prefer to 'splain things out.

Mudslinger14
10-09-2010, 10:12 PM
Dude id say your moving a bit too fast

Zfishies
10-09-2010, 10:46 PM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE RENTS KNOW LOL

oops caps lock
I ment tbey cant know amd a again this is gunna be like in 3weekz. What stores in grave stuff in jewlery tho?

rizzle
10-09-2010, 10:52 PM
lol

likestofish
10-10-2010, 12:31 AM
aluminum has a nasty habit of burning if not done right

Yeah it turns into a ceramic if the temperature isnt right. Which oddly the ceramic has a melting point of like 2 times of normal aluminum.