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little monster
08-05-2005, 4:00 AM
Hi guys
I planning to have a 3 meter long tank placed in my living room.
The size will be 300 x 70 x 60 cm. It will resemble a azian slow moving stream.
I won't put in monster fish. Just barbs, labyrints and some bottom dwellers.
But don't worry....when I have some money again I'll get another big tank with some bichirs and some rope fish.
PhullTank57
08-05-2005, 5:39 AM
Very nice, sounds like a great idea!!... please be sure to post up pics when done! I'm sure many of us here, along with myself... would love to see it! :) GL!
little monster
08-05-2005, 5:49 AM
Will do :) If you don't mind waiting for a while. It will take some time to make the tank and make a fake river bank with lots of wood. But it will be worth the wait (that's what I keep telling my self :) )
Envy that you can get such a big tank:)
repair
08-07-2005, 1:32 PM
Post pics as you build it.
little monster
08-15-2005, 6:11 AM
I will not build the tank my self. I'll leave that to the professionals. :)
rayman45
08-15-2005, 9:32 AM
NO MONSTER FISH.
:cry:
little monster
08-15-2005, 9:39 AM
Ahhhhhhhh....don't cry. I also want to have a tank with some butterfly fish and rope fish. So there will be monsters in my house.... :)
rayman45
08-15-2005, 9:43 AM
Ahhhhhhhh....don't cry. I also want to have a tank with some butterfly fish and rope fish. So there will be monsters in my house.... :)
:cry:
you need SNAKEHEADS. AROWNANS . DATNOIDS. MONSTER CATFISH . PBASS . and stuff like that
.......buterfly fish :cry:
African Dick
08-15-2005, 9:57 AM
I just put a tigerfish in it.
little monster
08-18-2005, 3:04 AM
.......buterfly fish :ROFL:
ok ok...butterfly fish aren't exactly big scary fish.... but they look cool and beautifull and there will also be rope fish in the tank.
I was seriously thinking about a snakehead, but I like rope fish more and snakeheads eat everything so you can't put an other species of fish in the tank with them.
And I don't think I can get a tiger fish here (Holland).. I've never ever seen one in shops.
little monster
08-19-2005, 2:09 AM
I talked to the guy who will build the tank for me and he will start building it next month. Because he first has some other tanks to build.
PhullTank57
08-19-2005, 5:54 AM
It will resemble a azian slow moving stream.
It will take some time to make the tank and make a fake river bank with lots of wood
If you don't mind saying so, how are you planning to replicate this asian slow moving river stream?? Details?? The idea sounds mystifying, pleasant, and sererne. A beautiful display i'm sure it will be... Please be sure to keep us posted, and GL! :thumbsup:
little monster
08-19-2005, 7:38 AM
Hi PhullTank57,
I've altered my plan a little bit. It will be more like a march...so even less current.
The very end of a river/side branch of a river or a isolated little lake.
The plan is to replicate a bank that's been hollowed out in some places with lot's of overhanging tree roots, wood and rocks. And a sandy bottom.
Most of the vegetation will consist of big groups of crypto's, lots of moss and javaferns. Some spots will be very dark and have no plants and others will have more light for the fast growing species that need more light.
guppy
08-19-2005, 11:31 AM
Are you actually going to build a bank side? If so how? I've seen a couple that looked good that were done with concrete and plastic mesh but they were in outside displays.
PhullTank57
08-19-2005, 6:48 PM
Hi PhullTank57,
I've altered my plan a little bit. It will be more like a march...so even less current.
The very end of a river/side branch of a river or a isolated little lake.
The plan is to replicate a bank that's been hollowed out in some places with lot's of overhanging tree roots, wood and rocks. And a sandy bottom.
Most of the vegetation will consist of big groups of crypto's, lots of moss and javaferns. Some spots will be very dark and have no plants and others will have more light for the fast growing species that need more light.
Wow! Very nice... sounds like you have everything layed out... Can't wait to see it! :thumbsup:
fishnthings
08-22-2005, 1:25 AM
:drool: sounds cool...cant wait to c it either
roamingmotoroman
08-23-2005, 3:44 PM
I built me self a 2000 gallon tank, 8ft x 8ft x 4ft tall 4x4 frame, and a window on one side that was casted 1 inch thick acrylic
little monster
08-24-2005, 3:49 AM
Are you actually going to build a bank side? If so how? I've seen a couple that looked good that were done with concrete and plastic mesh but they were in outside displays.
I don't know the english word for it but a kind of foam will be used and mesh, epoxy-resin sprinkeled with sand make it look like soil and off course wood will be integrated.
Wow! Very nice... sounds like you have everything layed out... Can't wait to see it!
Me to :D
I would love to do something like that. I've seen an artical in a UK magazine doing the same thing with a chinese river bank, on a smaller scale though.
You could get away with some dwarf Snakeheads, C. bleheri or something like that, only 4-6". The Barbs would be to big for them to swallow. They are from that Biotype as well.
I think i've realized I’m a snakehead obsessive. :screwy:
little monster
08-24-2005, 6:19 AM
Nope, no snakeheads...though I have to agree that they are very very cool and beautifull fish.
But I'll stick to barbs, loatches and labyrintfish (Colisa, Trichogaster, Trichopsis, Betta etc).
Try Combtail Gourami, Belontia signata. had a couple of these a few years back. Bags of charactor. In that size aquarium aggression should not be an issue. Took food out of my hand.
There are really nice loaches out there aswell.
I might get a couple more!
little monster
08-24-2005, 9:41 AM
Belontia signata are nice fish, but I don't find them as beautifull as Colisa species and the other species I mentioned.
I really like kuhli loaches...clown loaches are also beautifull, but when they get big their colours fade a bit.
jelly
08-24-2005, 12:41 PM
You are right on the gourami issue. I am into the cichlid scene and the combtails have most of the personality traits of my CA Cichlids which is probably why I like them.
I used to have three unstriped black kuhli loaches in my earlier days of fishkeeping, they would disapear and re appear months later. They survived a time with a 12" Clarius Cat aswell. I think they lived 4 years which isn't bad for fish of that size.
I think i would go down the route of lots of the smaller Botia rather than the clowns, I have seen foot long clowns. They would dwarf most of the fish you plan to put in.
Sounds like a great project! :)
little monster
08-26-2005, 3:20 AM
I think i would go down the route of lots of the smaller Botia rather than the clowns, I have seen foot long clowns. They would dwarf most of the fish you plan to put in.
Yeah you are right...they are so cute and beautifull when they are still small...but they get really big and fat. I've seen some photo's of really big ones..they look the the fish variant of a pig.
I have kuhli loatches of about 5 years now, I heard that they can live to about ten years.
freeform
09-15-2005, 1:55 AM
:cry:
you need SNAKEHEADS. AROWNANS . DATNOIDS. MONSTER CATFISH . PBASS . and stuff like that
.......buterfly fish :cry:
you said it bro...... WHERE'S THE MONSTERS !!!!! :cry:
little monster
09-15-2005, 6:36 AM
Be patient :D , this afternoon I'll probably can get my hands on a 151x50x60 cm tank. :woot:
The inhabitants will be: bichirs, butterfly fish...and if I can find one, a Datnioides microlepis.
little monster
09-15-2005, 7:26 AM
Or maybe a channa Channa bleheri....if it doesn't eat the bufferfly fish or bichir.
Loubard
09-15-2005, 7:26 AM
Wow cool project dude! Where in Holland do you live? I live in Leeuwarden! And I am in the proces of setting up a 180*65*65 cm tank.
If your not able to find a a Datnioides microlepis, maybe we can do a group order or so...then we can get them cheaper. I want one to and I have found out that there pretty expencive.
little monster
09-15-2005, 8:56 AM
hahaha..I'm not a dude, but a gal. :grinyes:
I live in Druten, in Gelderland.
How much money are we talking about for one Datnioides microlepis?
I would really love to own one.
I built me self a 2000 gallon tank, 8ft x 8ft x 4ft tall 4x4 frame, and a window on one side that was casted 1 inch thick acrylic
How often do you swim with your fish???
Are you going to have a consistant one way current like a stream, I saw a cold water display set up like that. the out flow went in at one end of a long tank and all the intakes were at the other end. That was at a natural history museum and it contained trout, daces, and madtoms.
shoefreak03
09-16-2005, 3:51 PM
How often do you swim with your fish???
that is another dream of mine, to have a tank big enough where i can actually jump in and swim with my fishes. :D
this sounds like an amazing project.
you will have to get pictures done as you are setting it up.
roll on march.
dixon
Loubard
09-20-2005, 1:55 AM
hahaha..I'm not a dude, but a gal. :grinyes:
I live in Druten, in Gelderland.
How much money are we talking about for one Datnioides microlepis?
I would really love to own one.
Don't know excacly, but it will be in the range of €200,- or more for a 5". That's mainly because of the CITES papers you (better said the fish) have got to have. And you have to get them in Germany because I have never seen one in Holland.
little monster
09-21-2005, 4:44 AM
Damn that's a lot of money.... hmmmm..I'm getting second thoughts about getting one.
Loubard
09-21-2005, 6:04 AM
If I have my tank set up, I will defenatly try to get in contact with people who sell them. Because sometime you hear stories about cheaper datnoides.
I will send u a PM with the contact details if the price is right.
little monster
09-21-2005, 9:35 AM
Thanx due! I'd appreciate that :D
Loubard
09-21-2005, 10:40 AM
No probs / geen probleem :)
Or maybe a channa Channa bleheri....if it doesn't eat the bufferfly fish or bichir.
C. Bleheri is to small, maximum 6", to eat a butterfly fish or bichir unless they were small youngsters.
I would be more worried about an adult bichir eating the SH if it was one of the big ones. A tiger fish would definatly get big enough to eat one.
There are plenty of medium sized snakeheads out there that would be fine.
little monster
09-22-2005, 2:02 AM
Thanks for the info.
But I was unter the impression that snakeheads have bigger mouths than bichirs...and could swallow quite big fish for their size....I'm more worried for the butterfly fish being eaten that the bichir since the latter is bigger. C.bleheri is such a pretty and cool fish (as are the bichir and butterfly fish)
But I'll make sure that the fish are about equal in size if I put them together so they can't harm each other.
jelly
09-22-2005, 11:54 AM
Yes Snakeheads do have large mouths but I would say both the Bichir and the Butterfly would be safe from swallowing as long as they were introduced at a similar size and grew at a similer rate.
As Snakeheads go Bleheri is not overly aggressive and will not get big enough to swallow an adult Butterfly and as you have said Bichir.
You should have a look at Channa Sp. Assam an undiscribed species regularly breed in captivity. Very much like Bleheri but a fraction smaller with more blue colouration. Sometimes called Blue bleheri although it is a different species. Only downside is usually a bit more expensive. I'm trying to get a pair myself.
Looking forward to seeing a pic of your original project. Has it moved on any further?
little monster
09-23-2005, 1:51 AM
Unfortunately not :( , the guy that will make the tank for me is very busy. But I expect that he can start in a week or two. So I have to be patient...but I have some other tanks that can keep me occupied.
fishnthings
10-07-2005, 9:56 PM
get any further on this awesome project yet?Ive got to c what this turns out like!
wffsoccer
10-08-2005, 7:14 AM
I think I got a better idea, fill the bottom with hundreds of amazon sword plants, and then add approx. 1000 neon tetras. That would look sweet :).....or get snakeheads :)
I am also a fan of african butterfly fish and have kept them in community tanks with similar sized fish, I have even had them breed a few times, it was very cool to see the little ones one day when I was trimming the plants, I don't even mind that they gobble down the occasional neon or guppy. Have you seen the dwarf gouramis? Colisa lalia.
HarleyK
10-09-2005, 7:23 PM
Howdy,
I had an 80 gal with the Southeast Asia riverarm theme. With the accurate flaura & fauna (mostly cryptocoryne, kuhliis, macropodus opercularis). That is an awesome project!!!
We seem to have the same taste in fish - I just bought five butterfly fish for my 220 gal. :D That should take care of my swordtail fry. I slowly want to phase out anything non-African in my tank.
Way to go! :thumbsup:
HarleyK