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clemsonguy1125
06-22-2011, 4:47 PM
In captivity do LMB typically reach the size they do in the wild, if not what is typically the max size.
Thanks

Steveo McNello
06-22-2011, 5:06 PM
The bass pro by me has one that's about 25-26 inches. Soooo I vote yes. But that also depends if you plan on housing him in a 55 gallon tank or something.

clemsonguy1125
06-22-2011, 5:17 PM
Ive got a 250 gallon pond in my garage but Im afraid it will still be too small. Also arent the bass pro shop fish wild caught?

Deep Blue Sea
06-22-2011, 5:18 PM
You shouldnt think of getting one unless you have a minimum of 180 gallons ready for it, and in that size of a tank I vote no it would not max out. Many fish kept in captivity dont get to be their max size but it depends on how big of a tank you would be giving it

fisher12889
06-22-2011, 5:21 PM
Ive got a 250 gallon pond in my garage but Im afraid it will still be too small. Also arent the bass pro shop fish wild caught?

I believe most if not all of their fish are wild caught.

clemsonguy1125
06-22-2011, 5:30 PM
Thanks, the 250 gallon pond has two section a 3x2 bottom and a 6x4 upper section.
Its got a 20 gallon DIY filter and the bass would be the only fish in it. The only thing is we have winters below freezing and summers in the 90's. They are native here so I think it would be ok.

Jambarino
06-22-2011, 5:36 PM
Nice avatar clemsonguy

clemsonguy1125
06-22-2011, 5:40 PM
Thanks, I think their are now 2 clemson fans on the forum. Also do most LMB convert to pellets.

Jambarino
06-22-2011, 5:46 PM
Haha yep probably only us.

clemsonguy1125
06-22-2011, 5:51 PM
Actually I remember their is one guy who goes to Clemson on here but I forget his username.

fisher12889
06-22-2011, 6:02 PM
Thanks, I think their are now 2 clemson fans on the forum. Also do most LMB convert to pellets.

Like most sunfish, largemouth bass are generally pretty easy to get on prepared foods. Generally, the smaller they are, the easier it will be.

jvai
06-22-2011, 6:06 PM
Like most sunfish, largemouth bass are generally pretty easy to get on prepared foods. Generally, the smaller they are, the easier it will be.


+1

clemsonguy1125
06-22-2011, 8:15 PM
Thanks I found a fish hatchery nearby that sells them from 2 in to 12 in. I need to finish cycling my pond, I've had a pair of feeder goldfish in for a few months but I may finish with a fishless cycle. Also should I add another pump to circulate water other the the filter output or do they prefer still water.

wcgunns
06-22-2011, 9:05 PM
I've asked this question several times and have not got a good answer yet. I have seen a 7-8lb LMB in a 300 gallon tank that the guy said was about 1-1.5lbs when he got it and he had the LMB for 7-8 years and was the only fish in the tank. The big LMB at Bass Pro shops are caught at or around the size they are now and brought to the stores.

aldiaz33
06-22-2011, 9:11 PM
If properly cared for (clean water, enough space to swim, appropriate water temps ec), there is no reason a LMB will not reach it's full potential size. The only reason it's growth would be stunted is if it is in an unhealthy environment (high ammonia, small tank, too cold or too hot H20, etc...). Any fish that does not reach it's full size in captivity is due to an unhealthy captive environment.

wcgunns
06-23-2011, 8:49 AM
I agree Aldiaz33. I would like to see a LMB that someone has raised for 15 years and see how big the size would be. The 7-8lb LMB that I saw is on its way to a 12-15lb fish if it keeps growing like it has been the last 7 years. I guess the bottom line is if you are willing to raise a LMB for 15+ years. Im just getting started with natives and Im going to try this.

clemsonguy1125
06-23-2011, 10:25 AM
Thanks, I think I will get it at 2-4 inches to convert to pellets, he should be ok in the 250 gallon pond. Heres a pic or the pond. The first layer goes about 12 inches down then shrink to 4 by 2.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=600488&d=1301683831

81cuttin
06-26-2011, 1:12 PM
There are 3 Clemson Fans Buddy. Clemsonguy I got a LMB in my garden 300 Gallon pond. He East EVERYTHING. Big gold fish beetles and shrimp. Where is a fish hatchery in the upstate? I have someone giving me a 100gallon tank. YES, Gotta love FREE ****!!!

dcorreia
06-30-2011, 10:25 AM
I've kept natives in ponds for years now and captive fish will NOT grow as big in captivitiy as they do in the wild. Bass need a lot of space and food to grow to full potential. I've never seen a captive bass grow over 5 lbs but I have heard of them getting up to 8. And that 5 lber I saw was 10 years old.... In the wild a 10 year old bass can easily be 10 pounds or bigger. I would think a bass can reach 2-3 lbs in a 200 gallon tank. These big bass in the west are eating 2-3 12 inch trout trout a week... A bass can't get that type of calories eating pellets.

All the big fish you see at bass pro or cabelas are caught big. When they are put in captivity a lot of them actually loss weight, some will gain weight slowly but are still stunted. That came from a diver who works at a bass pro shop and feeds the fish...

FLESHY
07-01-2011, 2:31 PM
Funny that you would say that seeing as how almost all of the records down south are farm pond fish it seems.

There is no reason that a fish in captivity should not grow to be BIGGER than its wild counter parts. More, higher quality, and more frequent availability of food. Lack of predators, better h2o quality, medical attention...etc etc.

Just because some people are lax on care and husbandry does not make it the rule.

dcorreia
07-01-2011, 4:25 PM
Funny that you would say that seeing as how almost all of the records down south are farm pond fish it seems.

There is no reason that a fish in captivity should not grow to be BIGGER than its wild counter parts. More, higher quality, and more frequent availability of food. Lack of predators, better h2o quality, medical attention...etc etc.

Just because some people are lax on care and husbandry does not make it the rule.

There is a big difference between a farm pond and a DIY koi pond or large fish tank. Big fish need big area. You wont see any 15-20 pound bass in tanks.... You dont even see 10 pound bass raised in captivity. Bass (and most fish) will grow to a certain size depending on the tank. If you put a bass in a 55 gallon it may reach a pound or 2 quick then slow down. You can then put that same bass in a 500 gallon and it will blow up to 5 pounds then slow down.

fisher12889
07-01-2011, 5:29 PM
You guys also need to realize that it takes the right genes for them to grow large....you could have the best conditions possible but the bass might only make it to 16"-18", just because of its genes. I heard that only 1 in 35 MILLION largemouths will reach 10lbs in the wild.

dcorreia
07-02-2011, 12:09 PM
Thats true, also it's only the females that become large. Male bass max out around 4-5 lbs. When I used to raise bass in my pond you could tell males and females apart really early by the rate of growth. Females grow almost twice as fast.

clemsonguy1125
07-02-2011, 1:06 PM
Thanks guys, Ive read the average size is about 16-18 inches so I should be fine, would it be beneficial to have several small circulation pumps, or are they not nessecery in ponds. I do not see them commonly used. Ive got a 550 gph pump feeding into a filter and spilling back into the pond but may add another pump.

dcorreia
07-02-2011, 6:36 PM
I have two pumps in my pond. One for the filter and one more for circulation. You probably dont need it but it wont hurt anything. Bass strive in still water but the extra circulation will help keep the pond clean. Bass eat a lot so they will create a lot of waste.

81cuttin
07-03-2011, 9:40 AM
Cemsonguy, where did you find the place that sells native fish?

clemsonguy1125
07-03-2011, 4:49 PM
I found a fish hatchery that sells fish for pond stocking.

AudriSampson
07-11-2011, 2:27 PM
First off Go Maryland :P Back on topic what does one do when she finds out after reading this thread that her 29 is probably cruel and unusual punishment for her LMB?? Is it ok to release it back into the wild since it has been kept at home??

pbass510
07-11-2011, 3:17 PM
Thanks, I think their are now 2 clemson fans on the forum. Also do most LMB convert to pellets.
i dont think it was that hard for mines just starve the LMB a bit after he knows who feeds him and he`ll hit pellets

bassinmike85
07-11-2011, 3:45 PM
a friend of mine in TN raised a largemouth until it was 2o something inches and was 18pds until it passed away

clemsonguy1125
07-11-2011, 3:51 PM
First off Go Maryland :P Back on topic what does one do when she finds out after reading this thread that her 29 is probably cruel and unusual punishment for her LMB?? Is it ok to release it back into the wild since it has been kept at home??
Do not release, if you cant adopt it out, euthanize it, a fish should never be released after being kept. As bad as it sounds, its better for one fish to die than to cause entire ponds to become diseased.

AutumnEffect
07-11-2011, 8:40 PM
Do you know anyone with a private pond that does not connect to a stream, creek or river? If so, you could see if you could put your LMB there.