Payara Questions

[grmanrocks]

i tried to do research on payara's via internet, but what i get is always scrabled, fishbase doesnt make scense either....... they say that armatus is the smallest species, im almost sure thats wrong......

my questions are as follows.......

what kind of payara are these?

http://www.aquascapeonline.com/store/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=229

how big do they get?

if i was to get one, should i get more, or just one?

think they'd be okay with the following tankmates?

11" Black Ghost Knife
9" Ornate Bichir
4" African B-fly
6" Red-tailed shark

any special reqirements/sugestions i should know of?

thnx in advance.....

[rumblesushi]

The payaras listed there are the most common - scomberoides. Grow to around 10 inches, somewhat shy and inactive, just hover around, very hard to wean off live food.

Armatus are the biggest, then tatus (redtails) then scombs and vulpinus and cynodon gibbus I think all grow roughly the same size.

[master.k.]

I Have had thies fish before for about 2 years

[master.k.]

I have had the fish in the pic with the dude holind the fish:headbang2

[KRSwop1]

the ones listed are scomb, but the 5-6" one in the pic is not scomb. It looks like a redtail varient. If that is a pic of the actual fish, then it'll be more aggressive and less skittish then common scombs. They also get larger and are a lot hardier then scombs.

[master.k.]

ya the 5 to 6 in fish, is not one that I have cepet befor, it looks ***. I would not bye......................... That fish is not Authentic. Hydros look like this

[master.k.]

The one the dude is holding is not in those pics. But i did have in the same tank.I will find a pic of my other somberoides..............I had 3 all together.I know theis fish pritty well.

[rumblesushi]

actually master, your fish are not hydrolycus, they are rap. vulpinus.

[KRSwop1]

agreed with rumble. Definately vulpinus. Redtails get bigger, thicker, and way more aggressive than vulpinus. Sorry bro.

[master.k.]

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=6419
Darn the whole thing was a lie.At the site above is ware i got the idea my fish was a Hydrolycus Scomberoides."The One That Is A Mount Pic" .Is The Two That I Have had. I also have had the one that is on the fishing lure ,and they bouth get over 10"for shere.
When i sold mine the 2 in the pic were 14inch and the other 12inch.:DClick on the pic and more will result.

[Asian_Redtail_Catfish]

There is a place stating it has armatus at $65.00..

[dacox]

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=6419
Darn the whole thing was a lie.At the site above is ware i got the idea my fish was a Hydrolycus Scomberoides."The One That Is A Mount Pic" .Is The Two That I Have had. I also have had the one that is on the fishing lure ,and they bouth get over 10"for shere.
When i sold mine the 2 in the pic were 14inch and the other 12inch.:DClick on the pic and more will result.

The easiest way to identify scombs is from the pelvic fins. They are attactched laterally to the side of the body, not the bottom of it. They also have black spots at the base of the pectoral fins.

[KRSwop1]

the easiest way to Id scombs from vulpinus is the body shape.

[dacox]

the easiest way to Id scombs from vulpinus is the body shape.

From vulpinus yes (there are other species out there), but it doesn't work as well for the other species. Even someone without experience could tell them apart by the fins/spots.

[KRSwop1]

lol, I know. I've owned vulpinus, scomb, taut, and now I have an Armatus. Master .k. thought his vulpinus were scombs. I was basically just telling him the easiest way to ID vulpinus from scombs (what he had VS. what he thought he had).