telling the difference in baby peacocks?

bassinmike85

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depends on species of cichla..some 4" ones you can tell and some you can't

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:iagree:

Yup...Depends on the type of Cichla... Like and example of this would be, you'd be able to tell a Orino at the 4" mark and even smaller because of the yellow/gold lining around the spots and the body speckling.
 

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Yup...Depends on the type of Cichla... Like and example of this would be, you'd be able to tell a Orino at the 4" mark and even smaller because of the yellow/gold lining around the spots and the body speckling.
not always tho...i have seen some mono's w/ gold outlining there spots even at smaller sizes. Mono's, occels, kels and orino's are very hard to distinguish to the un-trained eye.

Tems, xingus, azuls and intermedia are also hard to tell apart at the 2" and under size...especially to the untrained eye.

It is much easier to id cichla at the 5-6in+ mark.
 

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Based on the Kullander and Ferreira paper in 2006, it seems at best the juveniles can be sorted into two species groups. Here's the excerpt from the first page of the paper:


In six species juveniles possess three dark blotches on the side and a dark band connecting the posterior blotch
to the dark blotch at the caudal-fin base: Cichla ocellaris is known from the Guianas, including the Marowijne,
Suriname, Corantijn, Demerara, and Essequibo river drainages, and also the upper Rio Branco in Brazil. Cichla
orinocensis is known from the Negro and Orinoco river drainages in Brazil, Colombia, and Venezuela. Cichla
monoculus is widespread in the floodplains of the Amazon basin, in Colombia, Peru, and Brazil, and also collected
from rivers of Amapá in Brazil, and the lower Oyapock River on the border between Brazil and French
Guiana. Cichla nigromaculata is known from the upper Rio Orinoco in Venezuela and, tentatively, the middle Rio
Negro in Brazil. Cichla kelberi, new species, is restricted to the Tocantins river basin, but also found transplanted
in the Paraná and Paraíba do Sul river drainages and reported from the Nordeste region of Brazil. Cichla pleiozona,
new species, occurs in the Madre de Dios, Beni, and Guaporé river drainages in Bolivia and Brazil, and in
the Rio Jamari in Brazil. A lectotype is fixed for Cychla toucounarai which is a synonym of Cichla monoculus.


Juveniles and young of the remaining nine species, in addition to the three midlateral blotches, possess a dark
horizontal band extending from the head to the dark blotch at the caudal-fin base: Cichla mirianae, new species,
is restricted to the upper Tapajós river drainage, in the Juruena and Teles Pires rivers, and the upper Xingu river
drainage in Brazil. Cichla melaniae, new species, is restricted to the lower Xingu river drainage in Brazil. Cichla
piquiti, new species, is restricted to the Tocantins river basin, but transplanted in the Paraná river basin in Brazil
and Paraguay. Cichla thyrorus, new species, occurs in the Rio Trombetas in Brazil, upstream from the Cachoeira
Porteira. Cichla jariina, new species, occurs in the Rio Jari in Brazil, where it is so far recorded only from the region
of the Santo Antonio rapids. Cichla pinima, new species, occurs in the lower parts of southern tributaries of the
Rio Amazonas in Brazil (Tapajós, Curuá-Una, Xingu), and the lower Tocantins and Capim rivers. Tentatively
identified specimens are recorded from the Amapá, Araguari, and Canumã rivers in Brazil. Cichla pinima occurs
translocated in the Rio Paraguaçu in southeastern Brazil, and is reported as translocated from the northeast of
Brazil. Cichla vazzoleri, new species, occurs in the Uatumã and lower Trombetas rivers in Brazil. Cichla temensis is
known from the Negro and Orinoco river drainages in Brazil, Colombia, and Venezuela. It is also recorded from
blackwater rivers along the Rio Solimões-Amazonas in Brazil (Tefé, Rio Puraquequara, Rio Uatumã, and Silves).
Cichla intermedia is restricted to the Casiquiare and Orinoco river drainages in Venezuela.
 

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Thanks for your introduction.
The concept of " juveniles can be sorted into two species groups" is really helpful for me. At least this concept provide us a good direction for thinking.
 

haynchinook334

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Tems, xingus, azuls and intermedia are also hard to tell apart at the 2" and under size...especially to the untrained eye.
You forgot Pinimas.
Brokopondos are easy to tell as well. Negro's and Pleiazona are hard to tell to. But I agree with you G, Its easier at 5'' or so.
 
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