View Full Version : My 7000 l. pond!!
Loubard
08-22-2005, 2:57 PM
Hey guys,
some pictures of my pond.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_132.jpg
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_134.jpg
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_017.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_017.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_018.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_018.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_025.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_025.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_061.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_061.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_074.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_074.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010007.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010007.JPG)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010069.JPG
It's 7000 liter, with lots of plants and no filter. It currently houses 15 LEUCISCUS IDUS ( :WHOA: :screwy: ha ha)
Hope y'all like it! :woot:
Because it cost some blood, sweat and tears to make.
The TRUST
08-22-2005, 3:06 PM
Now that is a cool pond. The Orfe are cool. Are you planning on putting anything predatory in there? Who's the water filler? LOL
Loubard
08-22-2005, 3:13 PM
Thanks!
My sistha is fillin' it up.
I want to stock it with large fish, but as you probably can see on the left side of this post, I live in the Netherlands.
So it summers max. 29 C. and winters probably - 5/10 C. And that's not even the water temp., that's probably somewhere in the middel.
So I will keep it with the current inhabitants, but they will grow till 40 cm. That would be a pretty cool sight. 15 40cm long carrots SWIMMING :ROFL: !
NeonTetraFan
08-22-2005, 3:27 PM
Beautiful pond!!
The TRUST
08-22-2005, 3:37 PM
Well you can always put Northern Pike in there. I know Northern Pike is also in the UK so they might be easy to get. You can also keep Wels catfish.
Loubard
08-22-2005, 4:02 PM
Sweet, would google it!
Done.
A northen pike would be called a "snoek" here, and it is possible but then my other fish have to grow a bit more.
I don't like the look and the size of the catfish.
Loubard
08-22-2005, 4:29 PM
Beautiful pond!!
Thanks!
Loubard
08-22-2005, 4:32 PM
Btw itīs approx 10 x 10 x 4 ft., and in the first pic you can see my old pond witch was bascaly a learning pond.
Here are some more pictures:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_009.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_009.jpg)
The old pond.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_088.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_088.jpg)
Some frogs at the edge of the old pond.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_051.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_051.jpg)
Some goldfish that were in the old pond, a friend fed them to his arowana and Xingu I's.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010045.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010045.JPG)
Green frog.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010068.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010068.JPG)
Again a green frog, this time between some Potamogeton lucens.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010098.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010098.JPG)
Pure art.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010077.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010077.JPG)
The dog chasing a frog.
Quite a lot of pictures.......more @ my gallery. :headbang2
rayman45
08-22-2005, 4:37 PM
nice!!
Loubard
08-22-2005, 4:54 PM
nice!!
Thanks!
I like it! I have found that lipping the upper edges of the liner with 2"x8" boards mitered together at the corners saves wear ant tear on the liner. Did you use any padding under the liner? Do you have any pump or filter in there? As for predatory fish how about some of your locals, I think you have tench, roach, rudd, and eels available.
The TRUST
08-22-2005, 5:20 PM
Yea Northerns would be a great addition. Wels, would me a scary addition. LOL
DanDanUK
08-22-2005, 5:21 PM
Well you can always put Northern Pike in there. I know Northern Pike is also in the UK so they might be easy to get. You can also keep Wels catfish.
Yeah he could certainly add Pike in there but all his other fish would be swallowed and as for the wels catfish i think he'd need a bigger pond as they grow to a really large size yeah i'd say bigger for a wels :grinyes:
Loubard
08-22-2005, 5:23 PM
Thanks for the kind words!
It's just the 5 ft poles with the boards screwed on them.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/foto_s_enzo_077.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/foto_s_enzo_077.jpg)
I don't use any filtration or pumps. Thats one of the reasens why I can't (I don't want to too) keep many large fish. I don't have the money to have a big pump spinnin' 24/7.
I like it this way, but like Thrust sad a southern pike would be cool, but I have to think about that.
The TRUST
08-22-2005, 5:31 PM
Yeah he could certainly add Pike in there but all his other fish would be swallowed and as for the wels catfish i think he'd need a bigger pond as they grow to a really large size yeah i'd say bigger for a wels :grinyes:
Make sure u have a camera ready. Watching those orfe get eaten by a Northern Pike would be cool as hell. :FIREdevil
I'm really liking this pond :thumbsup:
DanDanUK
08-22-2005, 5:48 PM
Make sure u have a camera ready. Watching those orfe get eaten by a Northern Pike would be cool as hell. :FIREdevil
I'm really liking this pond :thumbsup:
Also if he wanted to keep more than a couple of Northen Pike he could opt for the smaller versions and keep more of them JACK PIKE .
Yeah the pond looks bad ass you can tell he's worked hard 10/10 for effort. :thumbsup:
The TRUST
08-22-2005, 5:54 PM
Also if he wanted to keep more than a couple of Northen Pike he could opt for the smaller versions and keep more of them JACK PIKE .
Yeah the pond looks bad ass you can tell he's worked hard 10/10 for effort. :thumbsup:
Jack Pike??? Does that mean they are Northern pike that are runts and didn't grow to full size???
I have checked online for pond pumps and a 7000-8000liter pump runs from $100-$200 U.S. plus shipping and they use 150-230 watts/hr. A very adequate filter can be cheaply made from a 120 liter food grade plastic pickle barrel. If you use a showerhead water return or spash trough the set up will cycle your pond's water about once an hour and just about triple the number of fish you can keep or allow you to keep fish with higher oxygen needs like a sterlet or roach. Something to think about, picture a 1 meter sterlet in there.
Loubard
08-23-2005, 2:19 AM
Jack Pike??? Does that mean they are Northern pike that are runts and didn't grow to full size???
I want 15 of those! :D
No for real, i'm just gonna site back and injoy the pond for now. Maybe next year i'm gonna work on keeping some big fish, but defenetly not a scarlet. Some pikes would be cool, but it's not all up to me. I made it for my mum and dad, so they make the decision.
And the pond is outtha my reach probably the most of the time, because i'm in college and the pond is at my parents house.
Thanks for the kind words once again,
Loubard
Loubard
08-23-2005, 2:21 AM
I have checked online for pond pumps and a 7000-8000liter pump runs from $100-$200 U.S. plus shipping and they use 150-230 watts/hr. A very adequate filter can be cheaply made from a 120 liter food grade plastic pickle barrel. If you use a showerhead water return or spash trough the set up will cycle your pond's water about once an hour and just about triple the number of fish you can keep or allow you to keep fish with higher oxygen needs like a sterlet or roach. Something to think about, picture a 1 meter sterlet in there.
I'll shure think about it, thanks Guppy for the effort!
Loubard
08-23-2005, 2:41 AM
Still the jack pike get pretty large, this is suposed to be one...
http://www.lakewisconsin.org/images/jack_pike.jpg
I don't if it's correct :naughty: .
Your welcome, no real effort though, I was pricing them last month because my brother in law was thinking about an above ground pond about 1m deep x 2 1/2m wide x 3 3/4m long so I had the info on hand.
Loubard
08-23-2005, 5:59 PM
Above ground pond? what the advantage of having it above grond? Can we see some pics? Or was he just thinking about it?
The TRUST
08-23-2005, 6:16 PM
Above ground pond? what the advantage of having it above grond? Can we see some pics? Or was he just thinking about it?
The advantages to an above ground pond is that:
-You don't have break ur back digging a huge ass hole in the ground.
-You don't have to kneel down to get a better look at the fish in the pond that you wanted to get a closer look at.
Loubard
08-23-2005, 6:48 PM
The advantages to an above ground pond is that:
-You don't have break ur back digging a huge ass hole in the ground.
-You don't have to kneel down to get a better look at the fish in the pond that you wanted to get a closer look at.
That makes sense..... :thumbsup:
I was only thinking about the effect on the temp. because here in Holland you want your pond to be dug in, because of the isolating function of the earth. So it stays cool in the summer and somewhat warmer then it would be above ground in the winter. But that's just Holland.
My brother-in-law decided to spend the money on a new outboard motor for his boat so we are going to put in a couple garden beds instead :( Here It gets only a little snow for a few days a year, Above ground ponds are also easy to insulate using 5cm thick styrofoam panels between the frame and the liner. The other consideration in this case is that in a few years he will sell this place and an above ground pond can be taken down in a day but filling in a big hole is a real pain in the rear.
The design called for 10cmx10cm posts, 5cmx20cm wall boards (set on edge), and mitered corner, 5cmx15cm capping boards held together with countersunk carraige bolts. It would have held approximately 10000 liters of water. tThe pump would have cycled the water once an hour through a filter made from (2) 120 liter pickle barrels and returned it through a spray bar.
Our initial plan was to stock 6 brown bullhead cats, 1 small mouth bass, 12 bluegill sunfish, 6 northern pike minnows, 1 of the small sturgeon (either a sterlet or a stellate) :drool: , and a small bucketful each of gambusia and redsided chub, maybe 12-24 crayfish as well. The plants were to be pond lilies, japanese lotus and long leaf pond weed. The only fish we would have had to pay for was the sturgeon, the ones from around here get to damn big. I am bummed he changed his mind. :cry:
oscar1
08-23-2005, 9:14 PM
very cool pond
Loubard
08-24-2005, 4:43 AM
My brother-in-law decided to spend the money on a new outboard motor for his boat so we are going to put in a couple garden beds instead :( Here It gets only a little snow for a few days a year, Above ground ponds are also easy to insulate using 5cm thick styrofoam panels between the frame and the liner. The other consideration in this case is that in a few years he will sell this place and an above ground pond can be taken down in a day but filling in a big hole is a real pain in the rear.
The design called for 10cmx10cm posts, 5cmx20cm wall boards (set on edge), and mitered corner, 5cmx15cm capping boards held together with countersunk carraige bolts. It would have held approximately 10000 liters of water. tThe pump would have cycled the water once an hour through a filter made from (2) 120 liter pickle barrels and returned it through a spray bar.
Our initial plan was to stock 6 brown bullhead cats, 1 small mouth bass, 12 bluegill sunfish, 6 northern pike minnows, 1 of the small sturgeon (either a sterlet or a stellate) :drool: , and a small bucketful each of gambusia and redsided chub, maybe 12-24 crayfish as well. The plants were to be pond lilies, japanese lotus and long leaf pond weed. The only fish we would have had to pay for was the sturgeon, the ones from around here get to damn big. I am bummed he changed his mind. :cry:
That would have been fat.... :WHOA:
Loubard
08-24-2005, 4:43 AM
very cool pond
Thanks!
Steve_89
08-24-2005, 7:34 AM
Nice pond bro!
Loubard
08-24-2005, 8:23 AM
Thanks, your tanks look sweet to Steve_89!!
FlammingWoodChuck
08-24-2005, 7:26 PM
very beautiful pond i wish i could build one like that
Loubard
08-25-2005, 2:56 AM
Why can't you? Could send you the plans....
NeonTetraFan
08-25-2005, 3:09 AM
I would, but there is no room on the property. :(
Loubard
08-25-2005, 9:37 AM
To bad. You can always enjoy the pictures. I will post some more after the weekend.
Just1nK4ng
08-26-2005, 5:03 PM
very nice i say
spryandspringy
08-26-2005, 5:06 PM
You're making me miss the 1200g pond I left behind in Washington. :cry:
cool stuff. good job in the making of the pond. definitely something I'd do if I had the space/time.
I think koi would make good pond residents. :)
Loubard
08-30-2005, 10:29 AM
Yeah I know koi would be cool, but I will grow out the orfe first. Let them get big, then they would look sweet!
Nate_N_Nicole
08-30-2005, 10:30 AM
Nice pond!!!! :thumbsup:
Loubard
08-30-2005, 10:38 AM
Thanks! Going there this weekend, so will take more pics....for real this time.
d20monsteroscar20
08-30-2005, 10:43 AM
You did that all by yourself? wow nice pond. now I want one, I guess I will build one sometime wen I m not in school or bussy with my other tanks.
Loubard
08-31-2005, 3:55 AM
It's great sitting outside having a beer and talking with your friends, it's right besides the sitting area. You can hear the orfe splasing in trying to catch muscito's. I'm just waiting for them to grow, then there more impressive.
mikestack
09-07-2005, 9:51 PM
maybe try channel cats ,they get big and are tolerant of the cold?
guppy
09-07-2005, 10:24 PM
Hiya Mikestack, welcome to MFK. Channels would be way to big for that pond very quickly.
Those eels like out of the Amsterdam canals would be amusing, on rainy days he might have to chase them off the lawn or fetch them out of the other pond.
Loubard
09-08-2005, 4:23 AM
That is a good idea! "paling" as we call it, seems good! I don't know if they need salt water when they get older or something. But I will look it up.
Welkom mikestack, and thank for your suggestion!
Godzilla
09-08-2005, 9:37 AM
Awesome looking ponds. I know what my next summer plans are going to be lol.
Thanks for the inspiration.
That is a very nicely done pond with good pictures showing how it was done! I've always wanted to make one but our weather here in Melbourne, Australia is shocking...it fluctuates all the time and we get crappy storms a lot.
I might just help out my uncle make a turtle pond he wants for his backyard and then see where i go from there..
Well done on the pond and looking at your project makes me want one as well!
awesome pond. can't wait to build my own. moving to Florida in 10 months i'll build one there. Nice job.
ShadowVengance
09-08-2005, 9:50 PM
amazing, i hope mine will look half as good as yours.
Loubard
09-09-2005, 9:33 AM
Thanks for the compliments. If some of you want the drawing and sizes, just send me a pm. I will scan it in for you and send you an email.
Vince
09-10-2005, 10:24 AM
It's great sitting outside having a beer and talking with your friends, it's right besides the sitting area. You can hear the orfe splasing in trying to catch muscito's. I'm just waiting for them to grow, then there more impressive.
I was just gonna say, looks like a haven for mosquitoes. Reason for needing a filter is to control the breeding of mosquitoes. BUT, nothing can beat a natural predator of the mosquitoes, although we don't have that kind of mosquito eating fish, we have the mosquito fish. Looks like an ancient guppy since they don't have the fancy colors of the male, and they get to about 4 inches.
Only way I can dig a hole in my property is when the wife says it's OK, but I am thinking of converting the above ground pool to a pond, but when algae sits in, it would look nasty...hmmm
I'll stay with fish tanks, or maybe dig a hole in my living room?
Loubard
09-10-2005, 3:49 PM
The orfe get pretty good at catching those mosquitoes, and i have a Lepomus gibbosus witch get al lot of mosquitoes. And then there is the huge amount of frogs. So I really don't have any problems with getting stung. Luckly!
AWAK.
09-20-2005, 10:13 AM
Nice pond, love the Doberman.
Raiders
09-26-2005, 7:22 PM
Nice pond....looks great....I have a 1000 filled with Koi
Loubard
09-26-2005, 9:43 PM
He AWAK. it actually not a doberman it's a manchester terrier. It stay this size...
Raiders, could we see some pictures that would be cool!
7000 liter = 1,849.2043587 gallon [US, liquid]
Wow you even have a supermodle tending the water changes.... I wanna live where you live.
Loubard
09-29-2005, 3:13 AM
I only fill up the water witch is vaporised and change 1 time a year about 3/4 when I clean the bottum and stuff.
Waldo
09-29-2005, 10:50 PM
wow.... attempt at humor was a failure. It's a mighty pond though. wanna buy 10 boxes of kewl fish from me to put in it? I'll help you get you import license.
Loubard
09-30-2005, 5:10 AM
Ha ha, always looking for business hé? No man, for now I am just gonna stick with the orfe. BTW it getting cold now in Holland so the fish go in to winter inactivity.
I rate goldfish a couple notches above Piranhas. They are a poop fish.... but have more color and personality. I saw a 4' pair of yellow koi when I was in China, and that was a pretty neat fish.
MikeB09
10-13-2005, 11:35 PM
Looks good
Loubard
10-14-2005, 2:41 AM
Thanks!
Thats a nice looking pond, good job!
Loubard
10-16-2005, 4:40 PM
Thanks Ash!
nice set up of the pond.... hehe
loach43
10-17-2005, 6:21 AM
Well done! The surroundings look great too.
Loubard
10-17-2005, 6:39 AM
Thanks guys!
Lawngnome
10-19-2005, 12:45 AM
pretty cool
billylee
10-26-2005, 12:58 AM
sweet pond.
Loubard
10-26-2005, 8:47 AM
Thanks!
Roy L.
10-27-2005, 12:22 PM
That is a very nice pond! :)
I loved the way you created the square-edges before you started the digging!
That was smart!
Taz2478
10-29-2005, 6:00 AM
nice work, any new pics???
should have enough money by march, which is when it gets warmer (even though it doesnt get that cold). Experimenting with a kiddie pool right now, whenever my brother finds it.
chundamunky
10-31-2005, 7:52 AM
Very nice pond, i have been tempted to try and build one myself but never really got round to it. Think i might give it a go.
paintboi101
11-01-2005, 10:11 PM
nice
nice
nice
ballsmcgee1234
11-04-2005, 5:48 PM
I'm jealous:)
Loubard
11-04-2005, 6:03 PM
thanks
By the look of the soil im not sure if you would even need to use a liner.
whhaugh
11-08-2005, 5:14 PM
Btw itīs approx 10 x 10 x 4 ft., and in the first pic you can see my old pond witch was bascaly a learning pond.
Here are some more pictures:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_009.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_009.jpg)
The old pond.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_088.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_088.jpg)
Some frogs at the edge of the old pond.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_051.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/foto_s_enzo_051.jpg)
Some goldfish that were in the old pond, a friend fed them to his arowana and Xingu I's.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010045.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010045.JPG)
Green frog.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010068.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010068.JPG)
Again a green frog, this time between some Potamogeton lucens.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010098.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010098.JPG)
Pure art.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010077.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/P1010077.JPG)
The dog chasing a frog.
Quite a lot of pictures.......more @ my gallery. :headbang2
:headbang2 :headbang2
whhaugh
11-08-2005, 5:15 PM
That is a cool pond, I want to build one soon.
bigeasy102573
11-11-2005, 11:45 AM
great plan gave me some good ideas
Loubard
11-14-2005, 10:52 AM
Thanks guys!
Loubard
11-14-2005, 10:54 AM
nice work, any new pics???
In the weekend I am going to take some new pics!
freshwaterstingrays
11-16-2005, 9:01 PM
cool
Loubard
11-21-2005, 1:49 PM
So here are the promised pictures:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010046.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010046.JPG)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010023.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010023.JPG)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010019.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010019.JPG)
You can see my parents house in the reflexion! How cool is that?
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010059.JPG (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=510/medium/mini-P1010059.JPG)
Greets,
Loubard
Mourinho18
11-21-2005, 1:53 PM
nice, i love ponds :thumbsup:
Loubard
11-21-2005, 2:23 PM
I like 'em, but I don't love 'me...:).
Roy L.
11-27-2005, 7:03 PM
Thanks for the kind words!
It's just the 5 ft poles with the boards screwed on them.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/foto_s_enzo_077.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/medium/foto_s_enzo_077.jpg)
I don't use any filtration or pumps. Thats one of the reasens why I can't (I don't want to too) keep many large fish. I don't have the money to have a big pump spinnin' 24/7.
I like it this way, but like Thrust sad a southern pike would be cool, but I have to think about that.
I've said before, the way you did this is an extraordinary good idea! :)
But how is the water conditions without a filter?
(I made a really good working filter with small costs,
would happily help you with how to do)
Would you mind if i use your pictures from here in my norwegian forum?
(Of course I'd tell who I got them from...)
dangitseric
11-27-2005, 7:12 PM
woah!
Loubard
11-28-2005, 7:27 AM
I've said before, the way you did this is an extraordinary good idea! :)
But how is the water conditions without a filter?
(I made a really good working filter with small costs,
would happily help you with how to do)
The water is good, remember I just got some golden orfe (15) in it. So bioload is very low and there are many real aquatic plants in. As long as you have got enough unterwaterplants in, there will be no problem keeping all but the largest fish without a filter. At least, that's my experience. It's the balance between plants and fish that does the trick.
Would you mind if i use your pictures from here in my norwegian forum?
No problem.
woah!
Thanks!