Y THE HECK ARE FW STINGRAYS ILLEGAL??!

[FlammingWoodChuck]

Y are FW stingrays Illegal In cali?????? I want to get one SOOOOO BAD but it hard to find em or ppl that would risk it to ship them

[Caveman]

Y are FW stingrays Illegal In cali?????? I want to get one SOOOOO BAD but it hard to find em or ppl that would risk it to ship them
You should contact your Dept of Fish and Wildlife and ask them that question because I see no reason why they should be. Do they actually think some one would release a $100+ fish into the native waters?

[FlammingWoodChuck]

Ok now to find the #. TO THE PHONE BOOK

[DeLgAdO]

let me know when you get an answer :grinno:

[FlammingWoodChuck]

Ill Let u know as soon as i get an answer from the person. Even if they have a valid reason ill just smuggle a few in and ill try and drop by your house and give ya one if u want :D

[DeLgAdO]

Ill Let u know as soon as i get an answer from the person. Even if they have a valid reason ill just smuggle a few in and ill try and drop by your house and give ya one if u want :D

H3LL YEAH!!!! :headbang2

[thefishofdoom]

lol i want one so bad u cant get fw but u can get salt water

[FlammingWoodChuck]

lol i want one so bad u cant get fw but u can get salt water
But then i would have to make a slatwater tank and i dont wana :grinno:

[bluedempsey]

i guess your just going to have to move
:grinno:

[FlammingWoodChuck]

i guess your just going to have to move
:grinno:
:lol3: :lol2: I might start up a salt water but probly like a 10g mabe 29g so i might get a SW stingray after all

[shoefreak03]

illegal cause some dumba$$ is going to buy it, raise it till it gets big, then toss it in the nearby lake.

some poor little kid will then visit the lake with her mom and dad, and accidently step on the ray, ray will sting the little poor child and get hurt.

[rayman45]

bingo.. plenty of cali peopls have f/w rays

[magic]

How do the cali ppl get them then?? It seems like all cool fish are illegal in cali. I hate all the laws here.

[FlammingWoodChuck]

People get them cause they find really cool LFS that get illegal fish and sell them. i know of one and i hope he gets a FW sting ray some day

[shekes]

The situation in New Orleans is a good example of how aquarium fish can get out into the wild by accident.

That's how you got killer bees. And they sarted in Brazil!

Aquarium specimen have evolved and are often a lot less demanding on their environment. Killerbees are said to be learning to survive winters and may find themselves in Canada one day.
My discus can survive at 40F and in very dirty water.

I also had one African frog escaping from me into South American sewer sistem, and I did believe having taken all the precautions.

[AmazonPredator]

The New Orleans disaster is a good way for primarily saltwater fish to adapt to brackish and vice versa. I heard they found a shark swimming around at an intersection down there. anyway, now to my question..

shekes, You had an African frog escape into S. America? Is that what you said?

[shekes]

:lipsseale

I might have.
I didn't have space in my tanks, so I put four Afrcian frogs in a bidet (bidé). The drain was plugged and the overflow hole seemed to small for a frog to fit through. At night I heard a frog hopping through the bedroom. Caught, washed, put him back in. But, next morning there were still only three frogs left in the bidet (bidé). Of course, I might find its sceleton in a closet one day, but I am also afraid that it could have squeezed himself through into the sewer...
It is no excuse, but, considering the availability of those frogs here and the total disregard of most fish-keepers for biological contamination, I hardly was the only one.

[Waldo]

I have the ansewr to your question and just left a message.

Yay for reasearch mind you this will only work if EVERYONE calls and leaves messages asking why!
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=72016#post72016

Oh god... I'm going to have a warant our for my arrest for doing this. HA.
:ROFL:

If you want to import wild fish then go here!
http://www.fws.gov/forms/3-200-3.pdf

[Zoodiver]

The New Orleans disaster is a good way for primarily saltwater fish to adapt to brackish and vice versa. I heard they found a shark swimming around at an intersection down there.

Not to ruin the great stories floating around, but none of the sharks from the Aquarium of the Americas are out swimming around. (I have direct contact with the staff there.)
That coast line is heavily popluated with bulls, black tips, sharpnose and various hammers. If a shark is seen cruising the flood waters, it's just a native species following his nose.

[spryandspringy]

You should contact your Dept of Fish and Wildlife and ask them that question because I see no reason why they should be. Do they actually think some one would release a $100+ fish into the native waters?


(Sorry for the duplicate post, but my earlier post in another section really fits here.)

I sent an email to the local Fish and Wildlife service folks here (Texas). Frankly, I wanted to know if there was any way to LEGALLY keep many of the fish I love and what the penalty would be if I got caught. I also wanted to get a copy of the legislation, and if possible the transcripts for the session that approved it. I asked for all of this information, as well as an explanation of why certain species were illegal here, since they didn't have much chance of becoming an invasive species; the conditions are too different from their natural habitats. My email was polite, well-worded, organized, and the information I was seeking was clearly laid out for individual and specific responses. I received the following reply:

"Permits are only issued to zoos and aquariums."

:swear:

[DeLgAdO]

Ok now to find the #. TO THE PHONE BOOK

did you call yet or are you still on hold? :grinno:

[t.oliphant]

(Sorry for the duplicate post, but my earlier post in another section really fits here.)

I sent an email to the local Fish and Wildlife service folks here (Texas). Frankly, I wanted to know if there was any way to LEGALLY keep many of the fish I love and what the penalty would be if I got caught. I also wanted to get a copy of the legislation, and if possible the transcripts for the session that approved it. I asked for all of this information, as well as an explanation of why certain species were illegal here, since they didn't have much chance of becoming an invasive species; the conditions are too different from their natural habitats. My email was polite, well-worded, organized, and the information I was seeking was clearly laid out for individual and specific responses. I received the following reply:

"Permits are only issued to zoos and aquariums."

:swear:
thats the same damn reply i recieved all the cool stuff is illegal here

[Waldo]

Still waiting on the call. Thinking about knocking on the door to the guy's office. can't exacly ignore me then.

[me_wee_todded]

i got the same reply for electric cats from my great states legislation. only zoos and aquariums can get permits, its a load of bull.

[dark_knights_99]

Thank God I live in the Philippines, the only problem is how to transfer the fishies.

[ethnics]

thank god i kno all them nice lfs people. there are guys in sd that go to sdsu that can get fw stingrays easily. they just state that its for research and places ship it to him. dunno if it'll work for you but im glad it works for him.

[Russy Pelican]

I also had one African frog escaping from me into South American sewer sistem, and I did believe having taken all the precautions.

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