Dat hype

[santoury]

What's up with all the datnoid hype? Never paid any attention to them myself.

[marcos]

they are good looking fish with great personality

[Nic]

just beautiful monsters thats all

[santoury]

I've seen them in the pet stores - What personality?? I just don't see it... care to explain more?

[marcos]

once they are comfortable with there surroundings the looks and personality come out

[freeskierrocket]

What's up with all the datnoid hype? Never paid any attention to them myself.


Just the most beautiful fish in the hobby!!!!!!

My opinion:D ..........if you dont think so......whatever............. go play with guppies!!!;) :grinno:

[santoury]

I didn't say anything about my opinion about datnoids, just wondering what everyone else saw in them, and I don't play with guppies. I play with fish that would gladly snap up datnoids for snacks, not that I would! lol

[freeskierrocket]

I didn't say anything about my opinion about datnoids, just wondering what everyone else saw in them, and I don't play with guppies. I play with fish that would gladly snap up datnoids for snacks, not that I would! lol


chill bro, just a lame joke!!!!:D

I just like the look of the stripes and the coloring..........and can't wait for my 2 '' and 3.5 '' NGT's to get huge and Monster........they are real pussies when small!!!:D:)

[redtailfool]

I didn't say anything about my opinion about datnoids, just wondering what everyone else saw in them, and I don't play with guppies. I play with fish that would gladly snap up datnoids for snacks, not that I would! lol


Try getting one and see what the hype is all about. ;)

[ewurm]

I bought one, loved it, and bought 11 more. They are great fish, and mine are still small. As adults, they are some of the best looking fish out there.

[davo]

I dunno a lot loose their colours as they mature, but still a great looking fish for a long period of time. Guess it depends on the dat species as well

[DiXoN]

they look like tigers and act like dogs.
i just love em.

[rallysman]

Try getting one and see what the hype is all about. ;)

Bingo!!

are you familiar with an Oscars personality? That's a lot like a dat.

[shoefreak03]

I've seen them in the pet stores - What personality?? I just don't see it... care to explain more?

you will have to own them to understand. they are imo one of the smartest fishes out there. it recongizes owners and know the hand that feeds them. they are always curious of new tankmates (they will always investigate new mates by sizing them up). usually when you see them at Lfs, they are not use to their surrounding so you probably see them hiding in the corner all black.

[AquataHolic420]

I didn't say anything about my opinion about datnoids, just wondering what everyone else saw in them, and I don't play with guppies. I play with fish that would gladly snap up datnoids for snacks, not that I would! lol

I find it EXTREMELY hard ot believe you have fish that would snap up a mature 20+ inch Datnoid... You dont like em cuz you dont have the Billlzzzzzzz$$$. Get one theyre like a dog.. i hate dogs too, Dats dont crap on the floor, but act like a dog, cant explain it.. and ofcourse when you see a dat in th store its not swimming around all joyful, Not too many Monsters are happy being in 10G tanks...its not Hype, its just Dats are the $$$$$$$$$$$hit..

[santoury]

A 20 inch Datnoid? Now that's something I have never even HEARD of before. Got anything to back up that claim?

And ... you think it's surprising? I don't think there's much that can stand up against a 2 foot plus Protopterus annectens ;)

[rallysman]

A 20 inch Datnoid? Now that's something I have never even HEARD of before. Got anything to back up that claim?

Neoprodigy has a pic of one around here somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. It was taken on one of his trips.

[AquataHolic420]

Do some research and stop talkin out ur anus... WIdebar Datnoid aKA Siamese Tiger Fish.. MAx 24".. nice doing business (santoury)

[CHUM BUCKET]

I find it EXTREMELY hard ot believe you have fish that would snap up a mature 20+ inch Datnoid... You dont like em cuz you dont have the Billlzzzzzzz$$$. Get one theyre like a dog.. i hate dogs too, Dats dont crap on the floor, but act like a dog, cant explain it.. and ofcourse when you see a dat in th store its not swimming around all joyful, Not too many Monsters are happy being in 10G tanks...its not Hype, its just Dats are the $$$$$$$$$$$hit..

Hahaha, yer funny

[HiGhTiMeZ]

i have never owned one but by just looking at their photos... i really love em!!
one fish thats on my fishlist for sure!!! im sure if ever they find their way here.. ill snatch em up even b4 they hit the lfs tanks!

[santoury]

Well... nice doing business huh? Did I miss something? Must have been a one-man deal on your part. Most literature online and written give max sizes as larger than what can be expected in an aquarium. 24 inches? That's why I asked for proof in the pudding.
Still nothing a 2-3 foot lungfish couldn't handle...

But in all reality - go back to my first post - I'm just wondering what everyone sees in them, that's all. Just like an oscar? Interesting. Sure, I've done the whole oscar bit many times over.

[ThisIsTong]

yes they do get 24 inches. i have seen aobut 3 at fullsize. they are really amazing fish. expensive but worth the money. they are one of few fish that have a great personality. in my opinion oscars and dats have the most personality. some are aggresive. some arent. the ones u see in stores are stressed. once u get it into a tank and have them kickn it in there for a lil, then the personality and colors come out.

[AquataHolic420]

Oscars are lame... You try tading in that fish when it outgrows your tank you'll get less then what you bought it for... u full grown Dat, Pulchar you can sell for hundreds...ITs a fish not meant for lame people.. so keep your lungfish, there cool too but i like the Tigers!

[AquataHolic420]

yes they do get 24 inches. i have seen aobut 3 at fullsize. they are really amazing fish. expensive but worth the money. they are one of few fish that have a great personality. in my opinion oscars and dats have the most personality. some are aggresive. some arent. the ones u see in stores are stressed. once u get it into a tank and have them kickn it in there for a lil, then the personality and colors come out.

Thanks for the "proof" Tong...Dats rule, i wanna see a 24" in person too.. wish the Boston Aquarium had em...

[santoury]

Let's see this proof, eh?

[rallysman]

Oscars are lame... You try tading in that fish when it outgrows your tank you'll get less then what you bought it for... u full grown Dat, Pulchar you can sell for hundreds...ITs a fish not meant for lame people.. so keep your lungfish, there cool too but i like the Tigers!

Wow....now you're oozing with hypocrisy.

What's the difference between the implication that dats are lame and you saying oscars are?
:ROFL:


ETA: I agree that dats are cooler:)

[AquataHolic420]

Wow....now you're oozing with hypocrisy.

What's the difference between the implication that dats are lame and you saying oscars are?
:ROFL:

I like Tigers, not Oscars... i guess i dont see the "hype" for an O.. u can get em at every LFS across the world...

[santoury]

I never brought up Oscars.

I asked about what people thought of Dats, and why they were popular on here.


Mods, I smell a derail attempt.

[rallysman]

here is a couple big dat pix. Claimed to be 19"
(not the pic I was looking for)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=128&size=1

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=129&size=1


Sorry santoury, I brought up the oscar issue because that's what I compare their personality to.

[marcos]

oscars have cool personalities but are ugly a big dat has personality but looks good what more can you ask for?

[santoury]

That's a pretty big guy - seen better days though. They are always offered in brackish water at LFS. Is this a plus or minus?

[shoefreak03]

biggest ive seen in so cal was a Wes old store. would consider that beast about 18"+.

i have a picture of a huge dat own by someone overseas on my home computer that is bigger.

ThisisTong: may i ask where did you see dats at full size? public aquarium or private collection.

[rallysman]

That's a pretty big guy - seen better days though. They are always offered in brackish water at LFS. Is this a plus or minus?

Yea, i imagine that thing is very old.
As far as brackish water goes, it depends on the species of dat. In brackish some do well and some dont.

[marcos]

here is a pic of a big one yes I know it wasnt raised in an aquarium but just thought id share 72039

[santoury]

Now, THAT is a nice fish - wish I knew how big it was. Love the yellow/black and speckling. Nothing like what you see in an aquarium.

[rallysman]

That's an NGT. They look like that in an aquarium too:D

[santoury]

If so, why have I never seen them before on here? Just the plain silver/black ones? Are the NGT's rare, then?

[rallysman]

NGT's are fairly uncommon. I'll search for some pix.

As far as huge dats goes........this is the pic I was looking for
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=410&d=1116422172

[rallysman]

More awesome dats
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54269&highlight=marshy

[AquataHolic420]

[QUOTE=santoury;713821;]If so, why have I never seen them before on here? Just the plain silver/black ones? Are the NGT's rare, then?[/QUOTE

I dont think any Dats are common... all Dat species are in their own way hard to get.

[santoury]

That's some datnoid you've found there! Wish the family pet (???) was treated with a family pet sized tank! Sweet bugger though.

[shoefreak03]

If so, why have I never seen them before on here? Just the plain silver/black ones? Are the NGT's rare, then?

there are a few different dats (copied from jesse's post member icthyophile so credit goes to him for the write up).

Datnioides pulcher = widebar datnoid, aka Siamese tiger (ST) or Cambodian tiger (CT), depending on locale.

Datnioides undecimradiatus = thinbar datnoid, aka North Thailand tiger (NTT)

Datnioides microlepis = Indonesian datnoid, aka Indonesian tiger (IT)

Datnioides campbelli = New Guinea datnoid, aka New Guinea tiger (NGT)

Datnioides polota (formerly quadrifasciatus) = silver datnoid, aka American tiger (AT), even though they're from southeast Asia

the silver/black one are silver datnoid and will need brackish to thrive. the others have been known to thrive in full fw.

couple years back, NGT were one of the rarest dats but now seems more common. in terms of newly imports now, it seems like widebars are hard to come around now. indo of course is the easist to find, there are plenty of 1" that are being imported recently.

[marcos]

If so, why have I never seen them before on here? Just the plain silver/black ones? Are the NGT's rare, then?

I think you have only seen silver dats (quadrifasciatus) ive never seen one get over 12" but there are many types of dats most of them get big and look really good

[marcos]

sorry shoefreak03 you beet me to it

[marcos]

i think a thread like this was done a couple of months ago
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45196

[koliveira]

Check out this thread.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44941

[freeskierrocket]

NGT's are fairly uncommon. I'll search for some pix.

As far as huge dats goes........this is the pic I was looking for
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=410&d=1116422172


Levi that DAT is frickin HUGE!!!!....Amazing!!!

and santoury Ngt's are awesome.....I have 2 , but like i said earlier, when small they ae fairly timid, but when big are most definatley monster!!!!

oh and never keep 2 together ( my 2 are in diff tanks )..as they will kill each other......................It's 1 or 5 + in a HUGE tank!!!!!!

[ewurm]

NGT's are fairly uncommon. I'll search for some pix.

As far as huge dats goes........this is the pic I was looking for
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=410&d=1116422172

One inch of fish per gallon...

[santoury]

Good one, Ewurm

[ewurm]

Mini Dats, coloring up:

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=713890&posted=1#post713890

[Nightfall_Fish]

Didn't realize that dats were part of the sardine family.....

Yikes!

[sncboom]

I never found them very exciting either...although I have never owned one.

[ewurm]

I never found them very exciting either...although I have never owned one.

The former is probably true because of the latter.

[freeskierrocket]

One inch of fish per gallon...

98% W/C every second day!!!!......hahahahahahaha!!!!!:headbang2 :D

[shoefreak03]

Here are the 3 pictures...

would love to see these in person....

[freeskierrocket]

Here are the 3 pictures...

would love to see these in person....


LFS employee......."would you like me to double bag these fish"!!!!

you.........."Nah, I brough my own 30 gal rubbermaids......Load em up!!!!!!!!!


Bad@ss!!!!!!!!:D

[vanimate]

A 20 inch Datnoid? Now that's something I have never even HEARD of before. Got anything to back up that claim?

And ... you think it's surprising? I don't think there's much that can stand up against a 2 foot plus Protopterus annectens ;)

Do some research and stop talkin out ur anus... WIdebar Datnoid aKA Siamese Tiger Fish.. MAx 24".. nice doing business (santoury)

:iagree:

Now, THAT is a nice fish - wish I knew how big it was. Love the yellow/black and speckling. Nothing like what you see in an aquarium.

That's an NGT. They look like that in an aquarium too:D


You talk alot for someone who doesnt know much about dats. Just because you havent seen them, doesnt mean they don't exist. ;)

[ThisIsTong]

about the 24 inches...... :(they were around 20 inches not exactly 24 inches i just estimated. my friend that left the hobby had 2 at about 20 inches and wes had a humongous one that shoudl have been atleast 20 inches in his 300 gal wall tank. sorry i dont have any "proof". i guess u just gohta believe me.

[santoury]

Ever hear this one ..... A FISH STORY...

It doesn't exist until it's seen. Oh yeah, and my lungfish is 48 inches. NOT!

[vanimate]

Ever hear this one ..... A FISH STORY...

It doesn't exist until it's seen. Oh yeah, and my lungfish is 48 inches. NOT!

Im just saying do a little research first ;)

[shoefreak03]

about the 24 inches...... :(they were around 20 inches not exactly 24 inches i just estimated. my friend that left the hobby had 2 at about 20 inches and wes had a humongous one that shoudl have been atleast 20 inches in his 300 gal wall tank. sorry i dont have any "proof". i guess u just gohta believe me.

damn, too bad. would love to see one that big in person since i know you are local to me. :D

[santoury]

Please remember that my thread is about seeing why other people like them. This is something that research in its normal sense won't do.

[vanimate]

research... Please remember that my thread is about seeing why other people like them. This is something that research in its normal sense won't do.

You know thats not what I was referring to, but whatever bro, you've seen your proof :)

[redtailfool]

Cmon guys lets try to be nice and try to teach what other hobbyists do not know. And to those that do not know, please try to do as much research as you can . fishbase is a great resource for fish identification.

[ethnics]

the hype to me, is they dont come around often. barely once a year... if that. and there awesome fish. i've been waiting years to own some, finally got my chance so i took advantage. glad these babies flooded the scene. gave me the opportunity to own some and raise some.

[AquataHolic420]

the hype to me, is they dont come around often. barely once a year... if that. and there awesome fish. i've been waiting years to own some, finally got my chance so i took advantage. glad these babies flooded the scene. gave me the opportunity to own some and raise some.

PErfectly said!

[Horiyoshi III]

Kidding me!Whats the hype!!Ha!You can't get them at LFS's around here,so the internet is the only way.........and their awesome looking AND get monster sized!!!!And you don't see them commonly in LFS's like Oscars.Thats why,'cause their not as abundant.I'll be honest,i LOVE large Cichlids but i'll never get an Oscar 'cause they symbolise Commonness,give me a Datnoid!Now your talkin'.

[Miguel]

they are marvellous. just marvellous.

[freeskierrocket]

they are that cool........... cuz i'll spend a $100 on a fish...NGT...... knowing damn well i'll get weeks off greif over it but still buy it anyway.......cuz they are that cool!!!!:D ;)

[shoefreak03]

bottom line is most people who enjoyed dats are those with patience to let them get stable and comfortable to truely enjoy this fish. there are a few that try just to see what the hype is about but never really enjoy them because they end up with a unstable dat that stays dark and hides all the time. common thing.

not all dats are the same. they are have different personalities which i see in all 8 of my dats. they are always curious fish and recognize his tankmates and owner.

when i put in new fish in the tank, they dat will swim by, see it, then get this little stare down while its swims pass it slowly to the back side. then slowly move up and try to size it up to see if it food. its kind of hard to explain the personality it shows in the tank.

with fishes, you just have to try it and see. everyone likes different types of fishes for different reasons. with dats, i started out with one just to see what the hype was soon after i ended up with 8 cause i enjoyed the first one so much.

[zaric]

bottom line is most people who enjoyed dats are those with patience to let them get stable and comfortable to truely enjoy this fish. there are a few that try just to see what the hype is about but never really enjoy them because they end up with a unstable dat that stays dark and hides all the time. common thing.

not all dats are the same. they are have different personalities which i see in all 8 of my dats. they are always curious fish and recognize his tankmates and owner.

when i put in new fish in the tank, they dat will swim by, see it, then get this little stare down while its swims pass it slowly to the back side. then slowly move up and try to size it up to see if it food. its kind of hard to explain the personality it shows in the tank.

with fishes, you just have to try it and see. everyone likes different types of fishes for different reasons. with dats, i started out with one just to see what the hype was soon after i ended up with 8 cause i enjoyed the first one so much.

:iagree: I was about to trade my 14" dat for an 18" RTG, but after much consideration, I gave up the idea because you can find ARO everywhere here but not DATs:D

[AquataHolic420]

:iagree: I was about to trade my 14" dat for an 18" RTG, but after much consideration, I gave up the idea because you can find ARO everywhere here but not DATs:D

Now that says sumthin.... THEY RULE

[VVateverzYo]

tehy are awesome and plus they grow slow