View Full Version : Dats and Rays.......problems????
DB junkie
03-20-2007, 1:53 PM
Any one ever have any trouble with thier Dats pestering rays???
Would it be safe housing 2 6in silver dats with small retic rays? :confused:
ammerman19
03-20-2007, 1:55 PM
are retic rays brackish??
I keep pulchers and thin bars with my rays no problem even had a ngt in there with no problem
if your silvers are stable in pure fresh you should not have a problem and rays can tollerate a lil bit of salt not much though
ethnics
03-20-2007, 2:19 PM
no problem here with my dat with my ray.
T1KARMANN
03-20-2007, 3:02 PM
its a perect mix
i have hurd people say that silver tigers and NGT are brakish but they seam fine in FW to me
never seen a tiger snap at a ray i have seen a ray try to eat a tiger but as soon as they feel the shape dorsal fin they let them go
perfect mix for rays in my opinion aro tigers
DB junkie
03-20-2007, 4:16 PM
I have kept silver dats in brackish and in fresh. It doesn't seem to me like they prefer one over the other.
I watched them very closely for the first few weeks. Everything seemed fine.
Got home yesterday after work and all 3 retics dead. Just trying to rule out the Dats having anything at all to do with it.
Thank you very much for the replies.
I doubt very much that the dats had anything to do w/ the death of your rays. I know a lot of hobbyists who keep dats w/ rays, although most don't keep silver dats.
DB junkie
03-20-2007, 11:41 PM
I don't think it had anything to do with the dats either. Just coincidence. Just trying to rule out things.
Why is it that no one keeps silvers? Are they the must "undesireable" of all the dats?
T1KARMANN
03-21-2007, 4:32 AM
if all 3 rays died then its a water problem
even if it was a fish that was the problem all 3 rays wouldnt have died at the same time
rays hate big changes in PH or nitrite or amonia
DB junkie
03-22-2007, 2:33 PM
is .25 enough ammonia to kill them???? PH is constant. Doesn't change from tap to tank.
The oldest ray used to get 50% waterchanges. And I know he had delt with higher ammonia than .25 on several occasions. Never bothered him. No more than 35% is changed now.
2 of the 3 filters quit 2 days prior. One was restarted the other pulled. But if this was a source of the problem wouldn't it have affected water parameters?
Long shot.......but I have heard that sand can harbor toxic chemicals if it compacts and is not stirred. Is it possible for this to be the source of my problem?
T1KARMANN
03-23-2007, 5:13 AM
rays hate amonia and it needs to be removed ASAP
if 2 of the 3 filters packed up theirs you problem if the filters were off for more tha a few hours all the bacteria in them was dead when you restarted them so it must have been like putting the rays into a freashly set up tank