mixing big cichlids

[killerfish]

could you mix a parachromis managuensis with motagunsis in a 180 gallon tank

[Marc280106]

Yes.

[killerfish]

really what about with tankmates

[ammerman19]

yeah just make sure they can hold their own and grow them up from juvies together.

[Marc280106]

Grow them out together yes. But i wouldn't recomend to many more cichlids as tankmates, throw in a Midas or something. Make sure there are plenty of dithers to take the aggression and maybe a couple of plecos.

[dovii88]

it can be doen just size up tankmates

[Opiate]

give it a go, keep us updated

[killerfish]

ok im trying to find a mota so as soon as i get to a fishstore ill pick one up

[ammerman19]

I currently have 7 Red Terrors a synspilum, butterkoferi, Jag, Nicaraguense and a channel cat in my 125 and no aggression problems. They are all 4.5-6", the RT's will be moving soon to attempt breeding but pretty much they are all fine together. Aggression reduction with overpopulation works it just takes more work from you.

[killerfish]

ok so what would be over stocked in a 180 what about a jag 1mota 1red or green terror 1 midas 1jack dempsy and what about a catfish like a sun catfish or something

[balton777]

ok so what would be over stocked in a 180 what about a jag 1mota 1red or green terror 1 midas 1jack dempsy and what about a catfish like a sun catfish or something


Those might work except the green terror. Imo, it'll get owned once they all start to mature.

[dovii88]

yes

[killerfish]

ok could there be any more fish in there

[WolfFisho1]

Grow them out together yes. But i wouldn't recomend to many more cichlids as tankmates, throw in a Midas or something. Make sure there are plenty of dithers to take the aggression and maybe a couple of plecos.

definetly agree with dithers! but i dont kno bout plecos! theyd make good dithers and whatever but they leave behind huge amounts of biowaste! so you could have plecos but u'd need a lot w/c

[saltydog_1]

just because that many fish will fit in the tank and its true they could spread the aggression out (unless they decided to just go down the line weakest to strongest) your fish arent goin to be nearly as happy or healthy pick a couple you like add some interesting dithers and cleanup crew and enjoy :)

[killerfish]

just because that many fish will fit in the tank and its true they could spread the aggression out (unless they decided to just go down the line weakest to strongest) your fish arent goin to be nearly as happy or healthy pick a couple you like add some interesting dithers and cleanup crew and enjoy :)
well come to think of it that might be a good idea i just thought that to have big cichlids with others you need alot of them so could this work
1jaguar
1jack dempsy
1 mota
1or more shovelnose
pleco and some kind of dither

[repair]

You guys are prob tired of seeing these pics but the big guys do fime packed in... but it is a LOT more work for you.

[ammerman19]

I never get tired of seeing that tank :D

[saltydog_1]

nice tank repair i am assuming it is a lot more work thats some bio load still a beautiful tank and proof that it can work with dedication

[repair]

well I have drip system on it so I haven't had to clean it since july 1st 2006.......... :nilly: I do change the filter pad once a month. Nitrates are less them 20ppm

[killerfish]

never seen those pics before but i dont think i'll ever get tired of looking at them.but what kind of catfish is that

[ammerman19]

Steve is that the Barred Midas on the bottom left corner or is that a uro? Kinda hard to tell. And it's about the biggest pictus cat you'll ever see :D Wish I woulda stopped by the other day when I was down and checked him out :( Oh well I'm sure I'll be down there soon enough

[nuth88]

What person a thinks is overstocked, may not be........

ammerman19 & repair are a great example of how "spread the aggression" can and will work with the right filtration....

Watch yer back if you hear a "crikey" LOL!

I Smell a Irwin batch comming on!

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ok so what would be over stocked in a 180 what about a jag 1mota 1red or green terror 1 midas 1jack dempsy and what about a catfish like a sun catfish or something

[nuth88]

Steve is that the Barred Midas on the bottom left corner or is that a uro? Kinda hard to tell. And it's about the biggest pictus cat you'll ever see :D Wish I woulda stopped by the other day when I was down and checked him out :( Oh well I'm sure I'll be down there soon enough

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I believe that is MY Barred Midas!!!

Bwaaahhahhahaaaaaaaa!

:irked:

[ammerman19]

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I believe that is MY Barred Midas!!!

Bwaaahhahhahaaaaaaaa!

:irked:

:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

[killerfish]

so whats the best way to filter the tank also i think i want a marbled pim is a 180 big enough and can thay go with cichlids

[nuth88]

Repair swears by his drip system, I on the other hand......

My 125: (Soon to be my 225...Tommorow! F' Yeah!)

3x Emp 400's
1x AC70 PH with attachment
1x AC50 PH with attachment
1x Eheim Pro 2028
1x Eheim Classic 2213 with Eheim Surface skimmer

My stock list (Flame on Irwins....)
1x Jag (4")
1x JD (4.5")
1x RD (4")
1x Texas (2.5")
3x Male Convicts (3,3.3.5")
1x Uro (2.5")
7x Sillver Dollars
1x Picus Cat (5")
1x Striped Raphel (3")
1x Rubberlip Pleco (4")

25% WC every 10 days......
1x Light Feeding Daily
1x Frozen Diet (3 Times a week)
Purge for 24 hours or so every 2 weeks

Never a loss due to ammonia build up or bad water conditions.....

[ammerman19]

yes it can and depending on how overstocked either a drip system or anything that can handle the bioload and lots of water changes

[killerfish]

Repair swears by his drip system, I on the other hand......

My 125: (Soon to be my 225...Tommorow! F' Yeah!)

3x Emp 400's
1x AC70 PH with attachment
1x AC50 PH with attachment
1x Eheim Pro 2028
1x Eheim Classic 2213 with Eheim Surface skimmer

My stock list (Flame on Irwins....)
1x Jag (4")
1x JD (4.5")
1x RD (4")
1x Texas (2.5")
3x Male Convicts (3,3.3.5")
1x Uro (2.5")
7x Sillver Dollars
1x Picus Cat (5")
1x Striped Raphel (3")
1x Rubberlip Pleco (4")

25% WC every 10 days......
1x Light Feeding Daily
1x Frozen Diet (3 Times a week)
Purge for 24 hours or so every 2 weeks

Never a loss due to ammonia build up or bad water conditions.....:WHOA: never a fish losed huh no kiding wow thats alot of filtration

[nuth88]

:WHOA: never a fish losed huh no kiding wow thats alot of filtration

Not Due to aggression but by my own mistake, yeah, I have had a loss, I just screwed up and more or less sent 2 of 4 young Salvini to there death, but that was my stupid azz mistake. as for aggression between my guys? Nothing more than a chase here and a flare there.

Water Changes and Over Filteration! Unless you are like repair and have a 1 million gallon drip system! LOL!

:D

[repair]

Water Changes and Over Filteration! Unless you are like repair and have a 1 million gallon drip system! LOL!

:D

I did weekly water changes on my tanks for almost 2 years. I had 25+ tanks so I was changing water almost every day of the week so I got lazy and set up the drip system..... did you know that watching fish is more fun then changing water?

[ApacheDan]

I did weekly water changes on my tanks for almost 2 years. I had 25+ tanks so I was changing water almost every day of the week so I got lazy and set up the drip system..... did you know that watching fish is more fun then changing water?

What size of a tank is that? I got a 180 gal and hope to set up a 650 gal fiberglass tank soon (check my avatar). I'm very interested in your drip system. Can you please give some details? Thanks,
Dan

[repair]

What size of a tank is that? I got a 180 gal and hope to set up a 650 gal fiberglass tank soon (check my avatar). I'm very interested in your drip system. Can you please give some details? Thanks,
Dan

It's a 265 gal tank...... i'll put something together.

[killerfish]

what is a drip system

[rallysman]

It's a system that works as a constant slow water change. It drips new water into the tank while old water drips out. It eliminates you from doing water changes.

[killerfish]

Hmm I like the sound of that, how do they work?