New MFK POTM Contest Rules Discussion Thread

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Welcome back POTM

Any question, concerns, or comments? Please post here.

:)

[rallysman]

Can I play?:D

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Just a reminder. :nilly:

You must include, "POTM - (Member Name)", in the e-mail title or it will be deleted as spam/junk e-mail.

Example -

POTM - Gr8KarmaSF

:D

[tankyou]

Wow I can not imagine how many pics will be submitted for this. This is awesome news it is great to hear that POM is back!!!

[AnDr3w]

Who do I send it too?

[Nova 8]

Entries are only accepted through electronic mail (e-mail). Unless otherwise noted, only the following e-mail address should be used:

potm@monsterfishkeepers.com (potm@monsterfishkeepers.com)

Please ensure your photo consents to the above requirements and please do include your member name in the e-mail.

You must include, "POTM - (Member Name)", in the e-mail title or it will be deleted as spam/junk e-mail.

[johnptc]

how does an entrant get confirmation that an entry was recieved ?

[midnight]

how does an entrant get confirmation that an entry was recieved ?
i just got an e mail saying mine was received :headbang2



my question,cant find answer
how many pics can you send in at a time?
limit one per month per person?
:popcorn:

[johnptc]

i just got an e mail saying mine was received :headbang2



my question,cant find answer
how many pics can you send in at a time?
limit one per month per person?
:popcorn:


1 per person per month:)

[Gr8KarmaSF]

A confirmation will be sent if it is received.

[midnight]

1 per person per month:)

not to question your answer but is this true gr8?lol
i didnt see it in the rules is all. :irked:

[rallysman]

1 pic:D


- Participant may only submit a limit of one photo per contest.

[AnDr3w]

The link wornt work for me. Can I send it any other way?

[johnptc]

The link wornt work for me. Can I send it any other way?

its not a link send by email to potm@monsterfishkeepers.com see new rules

[johnptc]

what is the perferred jpg file size ????

[Gr8KarmaSF]

- Photo must be a minimum of 600 pixels in length and 300 pixels in width. Higher resolutions are more desirable.


:)

[johnptc]

what resolution is best for potm ????

600x300 is minimum.....

what is the max you would like ????

[rallysman]

Li will have to tell us what the max size is for the in box, but I would resize it prior to sending it because only a certain size will be viewed. I usually make them 600-800 pixels wide and when they are attached they don't get too messed up from compression.

[Derpeder]

what do you win?

[rallysman]

I heard li say something about a golden baramundi.
It was either that or a subscription to TFH

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Subscription gone...

You get a "badge" of recognition here on MFK and ? (still working it out)

[Gr8KarmaSF]

I heard li say something about a golden baramundi.


ohhh i thought it was gonna be your perch?

:D

[rallysman]

ohhh i thought it was gonna be your perch?

:D

No way :grinno:

[AnDr3w]

When do we get to vote?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

When do we get to vote?

Beginning of the month...

[AnDr3w]

this month?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

nope...

first contest/votes occur in May since we have just started taking in submissions

[AnDr3w]

Ohh. Ok. Thanks.

Thats going to be a fun vote.

[paintboi101]

umm not sure if mine has been sent, but if it did, when will i get a reply?

[vanilla__gorilla__]

took about two days before they got back to me

[gyroflare]

why do you have to be 18?

[Miguel]

I've sent my pix, a winner:headbang2 , but it is so good a pix that you guys got flabbergasted and have sent me no confirmation of receipt...:nilly:

Seriously, do you confirm recipt of all pix?

[johnptc]

I've sent my pix, a winner:headbang2 , but it is so good a pix that you guys got flabbergasted and have sent me no confirmation of receipt...:nilly:

Seriously, do you confirm recipt of all pix?

yes they said they do !! give them a day or two....john

i am sorry i already submitted the winner :D :D :D

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Seriously, do you confirm recipt of all pix?

Yes, thou it might have been sent incorrectly OR I have not processed it yet. Feel free to resend it. There is no set timeframe for me to confirm I have received your picture. I simply reply to you when I get to it, thou I do try to reply to you within 3 to 4 days. :)

If I cannot read the pic. for whatever reason, since the program is new to me, I will reply back telling you to resend it another way in order for my MAC to properly read it.

A number of people have sent in their pictures incorrectly :irked: and with the large number of pictures I must manage I dont have enough time to track people down and ask them for their member name, etc.

Please dont think that this is directed at you but if people thoroughly and carefully read the rules then there shouldnt be a problem.

Hope this helps!:)

[AnDr3w]

Yes, thou it might have been sent incorrectly OR I have not processed it yet. Feel free to resend it. There is no set timeframe for me to confirm I have received your picture. I simply reply to you when I get to it, thou I do try to reply to you within 3 to 4 days. :)

If I cannot read the pic. for whatever reason, since the program is new to me, I will reply back telling you to resend it another way in order for my MAC to properly read it.

A number of people have sent in their pictures incorrectly :irked: and with the large number of pictures I must manage I dont have enough time to track people down and ask them for their member name, etc.

Please dont think that this is directed at you but if people thoroughly and carefully read the rules then there shouldnt be a problem.

Hope this helps!:)


Im sorry!!:cry:

[MrFisher]

Wow I can not imagine how many pics will be submitted for this. This is awesome news it is great to hear that POM is back!!!
So cool
:headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Im sorry!!:cry:

dont be :D

[ewurm]

Let's make the POTM a contest for the best picture, not the best fish. A top quality pic of a Rosy Red gets my vote over a medium quality pic of an Azul Pbass.

[rallysman]

Mine is IN!

[johnptc]

Let's make the POTM a contest for the best picture, not the best fish. A top quality pic of a Rosy Red gets my vote over a medium quality pic of an Azul Pbass.


how about a great photo of something fishy....:grinno:

[johnptc]

Let's make the POTM a contest for the best picture, not the best fish. A top quality pic of a Rosy Red gets my vote over a medium quality pic of an Azul Pbass.


maybe there should be voting guidelines.....????

[rust9000]

This is going to be sick man....any age restriction?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

This is going to be sick man....any age restriction?


nope :D

[GordonIII]

when does the voting start

[Gr8KarmaSF]

when does the voting start


beginning of each month...

[aquaticdesignsp]

I hope so cause here ya go.

[WolfFisho1]

you dont post it here! you e-mail it! didnt you read the posts above!


but have they come to an official prize yet?:popcorn:

[Miguel]

ok guys, but when do we get to see the pix??:)

[Nova 8]

Voting begins at the beginning of next month, so I assume we will see them then.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Voting begins at the beginning of next month, so I assume we will see them then.

:D

[Razman]

well, i sent my pic in, i dont expect to win i just want to see if i get any votes, but yes it is a good pic.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

well, i sent my pic in, i dont expect to win i just want to see if i get any votes, but yes it is a good pic.

you never know and at least your trying!:)

[Razman]

alright i got my e-mail saying that the person in charge of this (im not sure who that is though) got my pics.

[Crustman]

I just sent in my photo. Hope you get it.
Thanks

[ntinos54]

i am a bit new i was searching to find where do i send my photo for the contest ? if anybody can help me ?

[Crustman]

i am a bit new i was searching to find where do i send my photo for the contest ? if anybody can help me ?

Go to the first page of the thread.

[darthbravo]

I wanna atleast make the Final 10. And if i win, Drinks all Around!:headbang2

[WolfFisho1]

yea i was gonna enter but decided not too! glad i didnt mine sucked compared to some of those!

[Malcus]

My pic is received:D

[joeytoe]

Hopefully I confirmation email soon. Im pretty sure i did it right.

[Fishwhore]

when can we enter pictures that have been photoshop? i have tons of pictures like that..... like the one in my avatar....

[BIGgourami]

what's the prize? if any.

[Snowy The Pleco]

Can we add a description?

[Bsixxx]

I know I wont win

i just can't wait to see everyone elses pictures
:D

[ethnics]

- Photo must be a minimum of 600 pixels in length and 300 pixels in width. Higher resolutions are more desirable.



did you mean MINIMUM or MAXIMUM? i can't decide to send a big pic or a small one?

oh yah, and what does the winner get? i forgot lol

[Gr8KarmaSF]

The bigger the pic the better

Can we add a description?

No

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Several members are sending me pictures with borders or frames, Ive replied back to those that did so that they can resend it back un-edited.

Next time it simply will get no response and deleted for simply not reading the rules....
__________________

[DwarfCichlid101]

do u send the picture as an attachment?

[johnptc]

do u send the picture as an attachment?


yes

[ac20010707]

can't see the pics :(

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Just making sure i understand this well;
a. You have a pic which you think is really good, so you want to enter it into the POTM contest.
b. So you send an attachment of the pic in an email to the posted adress for such things.
c. Hopefully you get a reply back, and if your pic is accepted, it is entered onto on the latest POTM thread competeticion.



But i was wondering though, who decides whether the pic is good enough to be entered into the POTM competecion exactly? Or is this decision decided at some other previous stage or something?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Just making sure i understand this well;
a. You have a pic which you think is really good, so you want to enter it into the POTM contest.
b. So you send an attachment of the pic in an email to the posted adress for such things.
c. Hopefully you get a reply back, and if your pic is accepted, it is entered onto on the latest POTM thread competeticion.



But i was wondering though, who decides whether the pic is good enough to be entered into the POTM competecion exactly? Or is this decision decided at some other previous stage or something?

Thanks for the summary!

:)


Photo of the Month Contest will only admit aquatic-related animal/plant photos. Subject(s) can be any or any combination of the following:

- Fishes
- Invertebrates
- Reptiles
- Amphibians
- Mammals
- Plants

Please be advised, that invertebrates, reptiles, mammals and/or plants that are not aquatic-related will not be considered for admission.

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Hm...I was wondering, wouldn't be better if the members on the forum nominated pics to go in the competicion? Like, say someone posts some pics of their fish and people are viewing the pics, other members could nominate a picture for the POTM competeticion- if the pic got say more 2 or more nominations, the pic could be entered into the competeticion?
Just an idea...

[Miguel]

Hm...I was wondering, wouldn't be better if the members on the forum nominated pics to go in the competicion? Like, say someone posts some pics of their fish and people are viewing the pics, other members could nominate a picture for the POTM competeticion- if the pic got say more 2 or more nominations, the pic could be entered into the competeticion?
Just an idea...

An "unworkable" idea, imo. We would never agree. Someone needs to take care of decisions in here...

[Tokis-Phoenix]

An "unworkable" idea, imo. We would never agree. Someone needs to take care of decisions in here...


It wouldn't be about members agreeing/discussing whether a pic is good enough or not, simply members would nominate a pic which they thought was particularly good and that would be that. At the end of the month, all pics with enough nominations would be entered into the competicion.
I think one of the good things about such a process would be that the nominated pics would be very unbiased in why they were chosen as there would be a great variety of members who can choose them (not at all that i am saying whoever choses the pics at current for the competeticion is biased) and would allow the members themselves to have more input in actual the competicion itself. I am on another fish forum where we have a system such as this and it works very well, it could work well here too i think and it would also probably take some of the work load off the current people who run the competeticion :) .

[plausible]

age dosent matter right?

[slowlyburn]

I sent a pic in a few days before the end of the month. I don't see it. I sent an email of it like I was supposed to do. The last pic was on but not this one?

[rallysman]

IIRC there was an issue and some will be rolled into next month.

I'm pretty sure the thread said something about that.

[soggysandwich]

Let's make the POTM a contest for the best picture, not the best fish. A top quality pic of a Rosy Red gets my vote over a medium quality pic of an Azul Pbass.

thank you, im tired of people voteing for the fish they like. like every aro pic that comes up and is out of focus or something which would make it a "bad" quality pic, but everyone votes for it cause of the fish in it. (no saying anything bad about anyones previous pic, just making a point)

[midnight]

thank you, im tired of people voteing for the fish they like. like every aro pic that comes up and is out of focus or something which would make it a "bad" quality pic, but everyone votes for it cause of the fish in it. (no saying anything bad about anyones previous pic, just making a point)
i think potm should be the pic not how clear it is.
those one in a million shots,not just wow so clear.
like the pics in the photo lounge of the fish laying eggs.
or my payara smoking a guppy :D

potm should be qotm "quality of the month" :grinno:

[soggysandwich]

i think potm should be the pic not how clear it is.
those one in a million shots,not just wow so clear.
like the pics in the photo lounge of the fish laying eggs.
or my payara smoking a guppy :D

potm should be qotm "quality of the month" :grinno:

i see what your saying but im talking about like if there is a picture of a fish laying eggs (like you said) or a rare fish (that everyone wishes they can have) but it doesnt have a over all good composition and doesnt have the key elements which makes a good quailty photograph, im not going to vote for it. i would much rather vote for a good quailty photograph with a great composititon and showing all the key elements of a guppy. here is a site that i found that has some pretty good info about what makes a good photograph http://technology.sympatico.msn.ca/What+Makes+a+Photo+Good/Photography/Taking+Pictures/Articles/whatmakesaphotogood.htm?isfa=1

[Near]

Is POTM your forum name?

[bengalsfan47025]

What are the best kind of fish to supply photos of?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

What are the best kind of fish to supply photos of?

The best tend to be the clear pics taken. No set type of fish will get you a win.

Look throu the winners album and youll get an idea of what it takes to win!

[njgoonies]

I saw that under the rules it states aquatic related pics. however below that it says amphibians. does that mean only aquatic frogs or can any frog pics be entered?

[JEAE21]

Can we still enter the september POTM?
And when I sent my message, I didn't put my member name..

[ewurm]

Sorry, this month is over. You can submit it for next month though!

[Tylervsmith]

can i send in pictures of reptiles?

[antimony]

hey what does the winner get?

[antimony]

anyone know what you win?

[pirarucu319]

hey what does the winner get?

anyone know what you win?

yeah..what the prize??does the pic must be our pic, i mean our pet or plant??:screwy:

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Working on a "Winners Badge" that will appear by your name.

Photo does not need to be of your pet but must be taken by you.

[blazin_dragon18]

can i crop the picture?

[ferco]

ok got to the 6th page and couldn't find an answer to this so here goes:
If you've entered a photo a while back and it doesn't win but comes like second can you reenter it? Thanks

[aikio]

this can ?? ?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

ok got to the 6th page and couldn't find an answer to this so here goes:
If you've entered a photo a while back and it doesn't win but comes like second can you reenter it? Thanks

yes

[midnight]

can i crop the picture?
:popcorn:

[Gr8KarmaSF]

No

[pinkdolphin_113]

do the picture have to be of a "monster" fish? or can it be of any fish, like a cockatoo cichlid?

[---XR---]

do the picture have to be of a "monster" fish? or can it be of any fish, like a cockatoo cichlid?

any fish is fine

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Questions?

Ask here!


* New MFK POTM Contest Rules * (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132732)

[is300zx]

Are we not allowed to crop pics?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Yes, you can crop pics.

Just to clarify!!!

YES to cropping

YES to adjusting levels

NO to blacking out your background, unless done naturally.

[JD_MAN]

Yes, you can crop pics.

Just to clarify!!!

YES to cropping

YES to adjusting levels

NO to blacking out your background, unless done naturally.

So, can you do cleanup on the background? Usually there are some spots here and there when you are using an overhead flash. Most of the time, I make the picture a little darker, but don't try and "paint" the background black.

[johnptc]

in my youth photos were taken on film developed and printed in a dark room. using lots of special prininting tricks to get beautiful photos.

now photos are taken digitally and printed in photoshop.



why is it better to have a contest of /raw/ images rather than nicely 'printed' images ???

this is somewhat the same has turning in the negative rather than a finished print............


i would prefer to see a contest of finished pictures..........also moving fish to a photo tank is bad for this fish.

just wondering about the reasoning behind this ????

[johnptc]

NO to blacking out your background, unless done naturally.


in the above sentence what does the word naturally mean ?? :confused::confused::confused:

[midnight]

in my youth photos were taken on film developed and printed in a dark room. using lots of special prininting tricks to get beautiful photos.
never did that but that is by hand im guessing,not a pc that can turn a pic into a whole nother pic.

in my youth photos were taken on film developed and printed in a dark room. using lots of special prininting tricks to get beautiful photos.

now photos are taken digitally and printed in photoshop.



why is it better to have a contest of /raw/ images rather than nicely 'printed' images ???

this is somewhat the same has turning in the negative rather than a finished print............


i would prefer to see a contest of finished pictures..........also moving fish to a photo tank is bad for this fish.

just wondering about the reasoning behind this ????
so lets just say someone takes a pic of a girl
she has wrinkles,pimples,crooked teeth
so they go in photoshop
cover the pimples
cover the wrinkles
straiten the teeth
now she is perfect
now put that pic on my space to find a man
when johnptc goes to meet her,will he be happy or sad?
is this because the picture is true?she looked good in the pic. :confused:


""a raw pic is your pic,not how good you can edit it in a program"""

so i could go take a crappy picture,come to ps and edit it.
and you really think the finished product came from when you went click?
no way,you took a crappy pic,fixed it up,and now have a pic with makeup on it.

speaking of makeup,guess its like that
some girls feel the need to cover up with makeup
"girl looking in mirror is photoshop"
while other girls use no makeup,pure raw beauty "a raw picture"
you saying natural cant look as good as with makeup?

sorry to sound like a downer on this subject its just when i heard you can ps for potm my jaw went :WHOA:
cus just think
usually there is like 3 pics that get high votes,ps?maybe
but now give everyone that enters ps and a lesson.
then all the pix will be closer to the same imo
and none of the pix will be "originals"

now photos are taken digitally and printed in photoshop
you just answered your own question also
that saying right there doesnt bother me a bit.
take a print,and print it.you said it perfect.
but the way you talk,this is how that saying should have been.

take digital picture
edit this
edit that a lil
cover this up
crop that out
lighten this
darken that
then print it

thats not take a pic and print it

guess this is just all on opinions.
some see it as wrong,some see it as right.
ive made a few people mad on this subject already so im goin to stop.
my point has been said. :irked:
so no one get mad at me for speaking my mind. :D

in the above sentence what does the word naturally mean ?? :confused::confused::confused:
im guessing that means you have a black background.
but if you have a black background that has dirt or a spot or light you cant black it out.

also moving fish to a photo tank is bad for this fish.
not everyone has a 10000g tank and has to move fish for a great pic.
must be tuff to have to deal with that when ya got a 10000g tank.
:grinno::D

[johnptc]

sorry for the long reply :irked: lol


its not that simple...........you completely ignored the fact that hours were spent in the dark room making the perfect print...........burn this in block this out....use a crinkled piece of cellophane ( cigarette pack covering) to make a perfect complexion ..put in trees were their were none...........etc....


i never heard of a photo contest that required the prints to be as shot !!!

but that is what you are suggesting.........essentially a photo contest of as shot images rather than letting the photographer express their art in both shooting and printing................but i guess in an age where most are too young to know about the origins of photography with film paper and chemicals it is difficult to convey the sense of the great photographers of years gone by....

also i suppose the younger generation for the most part does not have the patience either for darkroom work or photoshop work.....takes time and there is no instant gratification involved .....:):)

[is300zx]

ever hear about airbrushing? that's what playboy and other magazines used to do to remove imperfections when PS weren't around yet.

raw pictures don't always look good. heck the colors that our eyes sees are different from what the colors we prefer in pictures. why do you think canon has highly saturated colors on their P&S cameras? it's so that consumers would buy the more colorful pics producing camera when in fact the "real thing" were never that colorful.

unless your camera captures RAW format then even the pic you've taken have already been post processed by the camera. many photographers today just prefer that they decide what is done with their pics instead of the camera deciding for them. PS just like your camera is just another tool to make a photograph. stop thinking of it as cheating but think of it as another tool to produce the best photos. by the way there are free programs out there that will let you edit your pics.

as for the "naturally black background", you can get a natural black background by using other photographic techniques and not just painting it on using PS.

[johnptc]

ever hear about airbrushing? that's what playboy and other magazines used to do to remove imperfections when PS weren't around yet.

raw pictures don't always look good. heck the colors that our eyes sees are different from what the colors we prefer in pictures. why do you think canon has highly saturated colors on their P&S cameras? it's so that consumers would buy the more colorful pics producing camera when in fact the "real thing" were never that colorful.

unless your camera captures RAW format then even the pic you've taken have already been post processed by the camera. many photographers today just prefer that they decide what is done with their pics instead of the camera deciding for them. PS just like your camera is just another tool to make a photograph. stop thinking of it as cheating but think of it as another tool to produce the best photos. by the way there are free programs out there that will let you edit your pics.

as for the "naturally black background", you can get a natural black background by using other photographic techniques and not just painting it on using PS.


:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

[akskirmish]

Would like to personally see no photoshoped pics....
Not everyone can afford it....And certainly not everyone has the skills to use it-

But whatever floats the boat I guess......

I pride myself on non edited shots....

[johnptc]

Would like to personally see no photoshoped pics....
Not everyone can afford it....And certainly not everyone has the skills to use it-

But whatever floats the boat I guess......

I pride myself on non edited shots....


:(:(:(;)

[akskirmish]

:(:(:(;)

I know.....

Only if I had the skills to use it would it be different though-

But people can not simply compete with those that know how to use it....

[johnptc]

I know.....

Only if I had the skills to use it would it be different though-

But people can not simply compete with those that know how to use it....

same issue with point and shoot vrs slr

[akskirmish]

same issue with point and shoot vrs slr

Not at all-

Many point and shoots can take better pics than what I can produce from my SLR---
It's all about learning your camera....

[midnight]

its not that simple...........you completely ignored the fact that hours were spent in the dark room making the perfect print...........burn this in block this out....use a crinkled piece of cellophane ( cigarette pack covering) to make a perfect complexion ..put in trees were their were none...........etc....


i never heard of a photo contest that required the prints to be as shot !!!

but that is what you are suggesting.........essentially a photo contest of as shot images rather than letting the photographer express their art in both shooting and printing................but i guess in an age where most are too young to know about the origins of photography with film paper and chemicals it is difficult to convey the sense of the great photographers of years gone by....

also i suppose the younger generation for the most part does not have the patience either for darkroom work or photoshop work.....takes time and there is no instant gratification involved .....:):)
say it how you want
what comes out of the camera is your pic.
once you start editing,its not an original picture.

add a tree?lol
so let me take this fish,add it with this fish,then put them 2 in this pic.ya thats a great picture you took. :screwy:

so can we touch up the mona lisa and it still be original?no :grinno:

sorry to be a downer its just how i see it.
you shouldnt have to edit the pic if its a good pic. ;)

ever hear about airbrushing? that's what playboy and other magazines used to do to remove imperfections when PS weren't around yet.

raw pictures don't always look good. heck the colors that our eyes sees are different from what the colors we prefer in pictures. why do you think canon has highly saturated colors on their P&S cameras? it's so that consumers would buy the more colorful pics producing camera when in fact the "real thing" were never that colorful.

unless your camera captures RAW format then even the pic you've taken have already been post processed by the camera. many photographers today just prefer that they decide what is done with their pics instead of the camera deciding for them. PS just like your camera is just another tool to make a photograph. stop thinking of it as cheating but think of it as another tool to produce the best photos. by the way there are free programs out there that will let you edit your pics.

as for the "naturally black background", you can get a natural black background by using other photographic techniques and not just painting it on using PS.
playboy isnt a contest
and i know they brush and cover up about everything
its a joke too
thats not the real pic when ya cover up stuff
so i dont see how you can compare potm to playboy lol

Would like to personally see no photoshoped pics....
Not everyone can afford it....And certainly not everyone has the skills to use it-

But whatever floats the boat I guess......

I pride myself on non edited shots....
not even the cash thing
i think its all about the pic not being original
if its dark,ya should have turned on a light,to light? turn lights down.
wow,i just lightened and made my pic darker,with no photoshop!!!
see what im saying?

and on you not editing
:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2
when all this came out i figured you did cus some of your pix are great
:D


But people can not simply compete with those that know how to use it....
that was my point ;)
its a picture contest not a photoshop contest

same issue with point and shoot vrs slr
yup,that is tuff
but my ok point and shoot has a better chance vs a slr then an slr then a ton of editing.
;)

[johnptc]

everyone gets an opinon

it this case it seems like even though we are given more tools to use some prefer to ignore current technology................


what is the difference if you tun up the light when you take the picture or adjust the level when you print it ????

if photography is an art form why limit the photographers tools to make great photos ?????


would you prefer to look at raw images or beautiful works of art ???


i guess i am old school and prefer beauty to instant pics....

[midnight]

it this case it seems like even though we are given more tools to use some prefer to ignore current technology................
roids are current technology
should fighters be able to use them just cus we have them????

what is the difference if you tun up the light when you take the picture or adjust the level when you print it ????
difference is i did the lighting not a computer ;)
and you keep saying when you print it.
to print a pic you click print,thats it
not take it to the editor for touch ups then print.

if photography is an art form why limit the photographers tools to make great photos ?????
no one is limiting ya
get a dslr, done
sorry your tank has glare or this or that,thats not the cameras fault.
when ya fix the pic,thats not what you tooka pic of.

would you prefer to look at raw images or beautiful works of art ??
YES!!!
like akskirmish,sweet pix no editing :headbang2
he took the time to make the pix look good before "printing"
i have some good pix "raw" that im proud of.
if i blocked out this or that i would feel like im hiding something,and it is.
funny how this all was a secret here before,wonder why.

i guess i am old school and prefer beauty to instant pics....
i would figure an old schooler would prefer un touched pix over a blacked out,lighted up,edited up,cropped out,pic.

:irked:

[midnight]

that would actually be a fun contest but they've stopped making polaroids :(
but then when people "print" them "lol" they would have to do this or that or :grinno:
potm should be
photographer vs photographer
not
photographer vs photographer and computer wiz
thats my only point here
if it wasnt a contest then photoshop away

so gr8
if i take the pic
can i send it to a pro to photoshop it?
its my pic just not my editing
is that legal?
:D

[is300zx]

Everyone has to use the same wallmart brand disposable cameras then. Can't adjust anything on the camera so now everyone will 'have the same chance.' Ohh, and no flashes because it isn't pure. The disposable camera with your picture should then be sent, undeveloped, to someone administering the contest, who will then develop them with all the same settings on a mechanical developing machine.

We may not have a lot of pretty pictures to look at, but it will at least be fair.



lol I think if we did that then Gr8 would just quit doing POTM.

[midnight]

Everyone has to use the same wallmart brand disposable cameras then. Can't adjust anything on the camera so now everyone will 'have the same chance.' Ohh, and no flashes because it isn't pure. The disposable camera with your picture should then be sent, undeveloped, to someone administering the contest, who will then develop them with all the same settings on a mechanical developing machine.

We may not have a lot of pretty pictures to look at, but it will at least be fair.
i already said,like others,that a point and shoot has a chance vs an slr camera.
its the photoshoping that changes it all.
;)

[midnight]

was just reading the tfh mag
found this add about an international aquatic plants layout contest
check out their rules

[johnptc]

was just reading the tfh mag
found this add about an international aquatic plants layout contest
check out their rules

it is not a photo contest !!!

its a planted tank contest...........perfect rule for totm ( tank of the month contest ),,,,,judging the tank not the photo

in any case we agree to disagree and that keeps the world turning !!

out

[midnight]

wow,the new rules sure did kill potm imo :(
the part on subject matter.
now if i want to enter this pic i have to wait 6 months.
or i take a pic and it was last months potm.
just seems odd
:irked:
all over aros
has anyone went and looked to see not only aros win?lol :grinno:

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Not all over Aro's. Who told you that?

And yes, you are correct not only aros win....

[midnight]

its a planted tank contest...........perfect rule for totm ( tank of the month contest ),,,,,judging the tank not the photo

its still a picture contest.
you think a blurry pic will win? :grinno:

[Gr8KarmaSF]

in the above sentence what does the word naturally mean ?? :confused::confused::confused:

:)

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1677076&postcount=3

[Gr8KarmaSF]

If you are unsure whether or not its acceptable or not, simply send in both before and after pics with your entry. From there it will be determined whether or not it qualifies...

Better to be safe than sorry!

[is300zx]

So is photo of the year going to be decided from previous month's winners?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

All the previous winners will have a contest for POTY!!!

[is300zx]

All the previous winners will have a contest for POTY!!!

OK so that means no POTM for DEC? Is there a different prize for POTY?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Correct no POTM entries needed for December...

[puffcrusader696]

you shouldnt be able to edit your pics. this is my 5 minute handywork, its not all that changed but its still different. its only my little 5.5g but its still a big change

[gavigan1]

I agree, the only way to be fair in regard to technology is to have untouched pics

[sidewayz6.6]

Everyone has to use the same wallmart brand disposable cameras then. Can't adjust anything on the camera so now everyone will 'have the same chance.' Ohh, and no flashes because it isn't pure. The disposable camera with your picture should then be sent, undeveloped, to someone administering the contest, who will then develop them with all the same settings on a mechanical developing machine.

We may not have a lot of pretty pictures to look at, but it will at least be fair.

Wow, I almost spit my soda out on my computer monitor.:grinno:

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

[BLACK ICE]

Not to stir anyone up here but I agree that the pictures should be untouched. I want to see the skill of the photographer and the beauty of the fish not the technology of the program. Some fish such as aros take better pics but im sure they arent the only ones. I belive the skill of a photogapher is shown in knowing correct lighting and how a fishes colors react to that lighting and if you need a program to edit your photo then you are not that skilled at all...

[tropheus]

but how would we know if a pic was trully untoutched ? and would you go as far as not even cropping ? personally i think how it is now is just right ,ie not blatently coloured in background ect and i would limit atlerations to cropping and adjusting levels , i understand peoples argument of ps just being another tool of the photographer but i think when you are good enough with ps to produce some of the stunning pictures we see useing it ,then its probably time to progress to aquaticphotographys potm and leave monsterfishkeepers potm for the average fishkeeper photographer , anyway that my thoughs but obviously it will not suit everyone.

p.s i find arowanas quite hard to take good pics of ,and if someone does take a great pic of a arrow then it probably does deserve to be towards the top of the voteing

cheers col

[TMDragon]

I'm kind of confused. This post gives examples of how we aren't supposed to Black out backgrounds (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1677076&postcount=3), but the same pic of the 6 Black Aro's won the March 08 PoTM? (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1608350&postcount=11)

I'm guessing the rules changed recently due to pics like this looking too good?

[Toodleypops]

i just say let people take a picture with their camera and send that shot in. Sure some people are obviously gonna have better cameras and such but thats their choice. i agree with the no photoshop rule... except cropping because you arent really changing the picture ... only shrinking the dimensions of the original.

[japes]

i just say let people take a picture with their camera and send that shot in. Sure some people are obviously gonna have better cameras and such but thats their choice. i agree with the no photoshop rule... except cropping because you arent really changing the picture ... only shrinking the dimensions of the original.

It's their choice if they own and know how to use Photoshop, also. Honestly though, the last couple of winning shots haven't been fantastic photos as much as they've been cute/great fish (subjectable), making it pretty clear that as long as you take a photo which will appeal to the masses, regardless of quality (to a certain extent) and editing, you're in with a chance.

[koop171]

I'm kind of confused. This post gives examples of how we aren't supposed to Black out backgrounds (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1677076&postcount=3), but the same pic of the 6 Black Aro's won the March 08 PoTM? (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1608350&postcount=11)

I'm guessing the rules changed recently due to pics like this looking too good?


this brings up a good point. Can a mod address this?

[japes]

this brings up a good point. Can a mod address this?

They already have, it won prior to the rules being introduced.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

thanks japs...

[spring007]

when can the members start voting for the polls?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

15th of each month......

[FlamingFury5]

what contest?

[ReeceTheBeast]

:o

[Petrella88]

So if I send a pic that is too big or too small and the e-mail is read but not accepted.

I need to know exactly what specs of the photo make it elegible.

When can we start sending in photos for the next contest?

[Sirspifalot]

Photography with and with out post processing is an art form. Neither one is better or worse because both will produce beautiful works of art. Creating a piece of art is about concieveing an image of an end product and then finding the way to produce that image in the best way. Some say that the use of photoshop to achive an end result is an unfair advantage. I disagree with this statement. It is no more unfair than having expensive fish fancy equipment or a high quality camera. Some also say that a crummy camera will take photos just as good as a fancy camera. In some cases this is true but in others it is not. If, for example, one wanted a high contrast picture with nice shadow work, it cannot be done at a satisfying quality with a camera that does not have proper iso settings and shutter speed for low light situations especially for a photos of fish which are quite shifty. So in this situation an image was concieved and a tool would have to be selected to produce this image. In the end an art piece is an art piece and should be judged and appreciated as so. There is more to a camera than point and click just as there is more to photoshop than point and click. Both are wonderful. All that needs to be done is select rules and admire the art. If only raw images are allowed than that should be so. No editing, cropping, blackening, or painting. If post processing is allowed then any post processing should be allowed. The images from both will be grand. Ok I guess I yammered on long enough. Keep up the good work I have seen some great stuff.

k bye

[bornasghost]

umm...the links that moderator posted to show examples of what is and isn't acceptable...I am not allowed to view the links. it says I might not be an actual full member, but I clearly am........

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Try this...

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132732

[bornasghost]

yeah, I can't access these links.
says this:
bornasghost, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:


You need to be a full "MFK Member". In order to become a full "MFK Members" you need have at least 5 posts.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

[Billy the kid]

How do i post a photo?

[matteo]

are there themes for photos every month or is it open category?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

OPEN!!!!!!!!!!

[marvinbaker]

OPEN!!!!!!!!!!

am i right in thinking i have to have 3 months off now? :D

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Every winner needs a break....lol

[Gr8KarmaSF]

ttt

[Gr8KarmaSF]

bump

[puffcrusader696]

if I submit something and want to change it before the contest is posted can I send in another e-mail with a new picture saying this is the one i want entered and not the first one?

[Thedaniokeeper]

Sent!

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Thanks!

[The Real 118]

how do i no if u got it?

[SketcHDawG]

You said the final shots would be limited to about 20-30 pics. Just wondering if the Jardini made it in?
Oh, and very sorry, I didnt rename the file with my name in it, can you let me off this 1 time?

[justpgraham]

when can we start voting ? thought it was first of month?

[Gr8KarmaSF]

It is the first of the month but I am at work, hence you will have to wait until I find time during my day please...

[justpgraham]

It is the first of the month but I am at work, hence you will have to wait until I find time during my day please...
lol got the message !!!! no pressure ehh!! :irked: :ROFL:

[LowCel]

It is the first of the month but I am at work, hence you will have to wait until I find time during my day please...

WHAT?!?!?! You have a life outside MFK? How dare you!!! :banhim:

[Pepper]

When is the deadline of submission for submitting an entry for October POTM?

[L021]

Would I say "MFKPOTM - MFK Member Name" or "MFKPOTM - L021"

[Plec123]

Would I say "MFKPOTM - MFK Member Name" or "MFKPOTM - L021"


MFKPOTM - L021

[Chaitika]

Would I say "MFKPOTM - MFK Member Name" or "MFKPOTM - L021"

You are required to rename your photo with the same tag, if I'm not mistaken.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

^ It helps me lots but people often dont....GRRR!!!!

[L021]

Gr8 new avatar LOL.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

Thanks! - lol

[spatidepre]

I'm very interested! I would love to find out more.
me too, I need more detailed info

[BenSow]

Hello

I am inerested in joining but I wanna know what is "adjusting levels"? And in the rules thread I can't view the pictures of what is acceptable and what is not. Can you attach it ?

Thanks

[Gr8KarmaSF]

ttt