Are Indo Tiger dats not....

[BostonPatriot]

as desirable as other dats? I see alot of posts about "thin bar" and "wide bar" dats. Are the Indo Tiger dats like what the red oscar is to the oscar world? I am just curious because I am new to keeping dats and don't really know what people look for in judging a dat. Do Indos look as good as the others when they get larger? Also what would a 8"-10" indo sell for?
I think they are a great fish looks and personality wise. They are just so rare around this area that local pet shops don't seem to know that much about them.

[cuban jey]

from what ive seen indos are the more common sp. of dats and i heard they lose their gold color as they get older im guessing they get more "dirty" looking and widebars stay having bright colors throughout their whole life i dont know much about thinbars and never seen a pic of a adult one but ive seen a huge indo once in person and it was dirty/muddy looking but every dat ive had are always constantly changing colors im thinking it has to do with moods or feelings? hopefully someone with more knowledge will help us out some more bro cause i too have a indo dat hes about 3-4in. now growing out in a 55 with a jardini and hes as gold as ever hes even bossing around my jardini wich is twice his size :grinyes:

[Steve_89]

Indos generally do not show the nice stable gold coloration of the wide bar.

I beleive wide bars are also rarer.

I love my big indo though, still has a great personality and occasionally shows nice golds.

[blacktip]

At large sizes, I think the wide bar dats have an overall more appealing body shape and they are more consistent with their coloring. That being said, I have seen some pics here of a guy that had a bunch of large dats, including some large indos, and his indos were still bright and colorful. I'll see if I can find the pics.

[shoefreak03]

i believe wide bars are more desirable because they are rarer hence the greater in price than indo. But this shouldn't be the case since i've heard that thin bars are even rarer than wide bars but still less than the price of a wide bar?

i think it is all supply and demand. since so many people are looking for widebars, price goes up especailly if people are willing to pay for them. last year, i bought 4-5inch wide bars for $40-60, now its double that price.

to me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i have one that is broker bar (symetrical), dont know or sure if it is a wide bar/indo, but still has great personalty as the rest of my dats.

[truman]

Hi,
well from what i see, there is a higher chance of obtaining a nice squarish dat body shape when u select a wide bar dat when compared with the indo tiger, and also against the thin barred variety.

This observation might also be my ignorance.


Rgrds
Trum

[gold ocean aqua]

Indon tiger don't do really as well as the siamese tiger, that what i always see and observe.

Regards

[DiXoN]

thin bars are readilly available in the UK at the moemnt more so than indo's. i have had indo's with really good colour but i still say wide bars are the best.
i pick up a 10''er tomorrow.

here is a pic the seller sent me today.
dixon

[BostonPatriot]

thin bars are readilly available in the UK at the moemnt more so than indo's. i have had indo's with really good colour but i still say wide bars are the best.
i pick up a 10''er tomorrow.

here is a pic the seller sent me today.
dixon


That's an indo? That is a great looking fish. I love the big stripe in the middle.

[Gr8KarmaSF]

how much is a 10incher in the uk?

[Steve_89]

Here in AUS both types are rare. So im happy with my indo.

Thats a nice looking dat Dixon.

[redtailfool]

thin bars are readilly available in the UK at the moemnt more so than indo's. i have had indo's with really good colour but i still say wide bars are the best.
i pick up a 10''er tomorrow.

here is a pic the seller sent me today.
dixon


sweet lookin dat Dixon! I like the color.

[BGG]

Indon tiger don't do really as well as the siamese tiger, that what i always see and observe.

Regards
Actually, IME all dats have almost identical care requirements and are all equally hardy.

[DiXoN]

That's an indo? That is a great looking fish. I love the big stripe in the middle.


no its pulcher and about 10-11''.
i paid a decent amount of money for it too.
dixon

[sharp tooth]

the pic is a wide bar, its my pride and joy but i know Dixon will look after it for me as i really need the cash at the moment.

i just sold 4 5" thin bars last week for £60 to my lfs, these guys just stayed black 99% of the time and hid all day long.
i have 3 indo`s and a silver left the silver is coloured up all the time and the indo`s come in and out of colour.
the only reason i let the wide bar go is because Dixon was looking for one and ide have died if it had damaged my £1200 aro, as the wide bar was bigger than the aro.

[deD3]

normally differentiate wider bars and indo by the strips. 3 strips for wide bars...4 stripes for indo.. every now and then u'll see an indo with nice 3 thick bars.. now just look at the tails to know the difference.

[crazy pacu]

A mixed comm of dats. Indos can look just as good as their siamese cousins given the right conditions :clap

[deD3]

the water looks really clear man... how did u manage that?

[crazy pacu]

the water looks really clear man... how did u manage that?

Thats not my tank bro... :grinno:

[jebus]

hi bros
hmm
i've kept dats for 1 +yr already

have kept all types of dats

thin bars, wide bar, indon, silver, new guinea

would say wide bars are very desired for their nice body shape and goldenyellow colour that stays with them for longer periods of time. they occur is a few colour variation: golden yellow, golden white, reddish orange, reddish brown.
these wide bars arealso more easily made stable(looks nicer) than other dats

next, new guinea tiger(NGT)- campbellis, this dat is a cool dat, it has fuzzy, undefined stripes, with a body shape very different from the other DATs, very aggressive, but its coloration wghen its stable is a superb bright yellow. very vibrant yellow that u cant resist. however its rare and hard to come by.

the third most desired dat, i would say is the thin bar dat,
even when unstable, it does now display a totally black coloration, instead it displays its bars as faded.
when young, the fish's coloration is normally brownish yellow. however as the fish grows bigger, the yellow will turn brighter. however there are some fish that remain brownish yellow. very often passed off as siamese tiger(aka wide bar) in many places. a good specimen would only have 3 thin straight bars on the body, however many LFS sell 3.5 bars.

the forth most desired dat would be the INDOn, as it displays yellow coloration similar to the wide bars. very attractive. however its harder for it to be stable, and the bars r less thick, hence the fish body shape is not that nice. however a plump m stable indon dat will make up for it definitely!

the last dat, is ther silver dat. silvery-brown tinge coloration when young, one of the dats that few people buy due to its unattractive dull silver coloration when older. those who buy this fish are normally dat enthusiaist

[crazy pacu]

hi bros
hmm
i've kept dats for 1 +yr already

have kept all types of dats

thin bars, wide bar, indon, silver, new guinea

would say wide bars are very desired for their nice body shape and goldenyellow colour that stays with them for longer periods of time. they occur is a few colour variation: golden yellow, golden white, reddish orange, reddish brown.
these wide bars arealso more easily made stable(looks nicer) than other dats

next, new guinea tiger(NGT)- campbellis, this dat is a cool dat, it has fuzzy, undefined stripes, with a body shape very different from the other DATs, very aggressive, but its coloration wghen its stable is a superb bright yellow. very vibrant yellow that u cant resist. however its rare and hard to come by.

the third most desired dat, i would say is the thin bar dat,
even when unstable, it does now display a totally black coloration, instead it displays its bars as faded.
when young, the fish's coloration is normally brownish yellow. however as the fish grows bigger, the yellow will turn brighter. however there are some fish that remain brownish yellow. very often passed off as siamese tiger(aka wide bar) in many places. a good specimen would only have 3 thin straight bars on the body, however many LFS sell 3.5 bars.

the forth most desired dat would be the INDOn, as it displays yellow coloration similar to the wide bars. very attractive. however its harder for it to be stable, and the bars r less thick, hence the fish body shape is not that nice. however a plump m stable indon dat will make up for it definitely!

the last dat, is ther silver dat. silvery-brown tinge coloration when young, one of the dats that few people buy due to its unattractive dull silver coloration when older. those who buy this fish are normally dat enthusiaist

Good analysis :clap

[lhrjunior]

thanks

[Ade]

Indo - 50/50 when in comes to stability
Widebar - generally the most stable of tigers, though some are unstable..
Ngt - usually stable most of time
Ntt - hard to find decent grade of thinbar in last 3 years in uk. I notice, either brilliantly stable or really unstable.
At - usually stable most of time