View Full Version : pirahna are over rated.
I have been in the aquarium hobby for a long time and I have just gottne some pirahna's and have had them for about 6 months and I can say I am very dissapointed.The species I have are not what everyone said they are and they are nice fish don't get me wrong but not the fish I expected.I have had snake heads and shovel nose cats and cichlids that have been more aggressive than what I have witneesed in the pygos I have. :swear: T hey are nice fish but I wouldn't buy them again if I had it to do over.
tigerfish
05-04-2005, 9:15 PM
yea man they just sit there.very scary. throw a mated pair of red devils in the tank. then sit back and watch the fun
iheartfishies
05-04-2005, 9:38 PM
I agree.
They're the largest pussies I've ever kept.
Vitaliy
05-04-2005, 10:17 PM
Breeding pair of Red Devil's.. now that is some true monsters there. :grinyes:
piranhas to most people are aggressive fishes, but in truth, as some may call them; they are "tetras with teeth". Juveniles are extremely shy and skittish, but don't let that behavior fool you, as they grow older and bigger, this behavior would change. most adult piranhas are good "show" fishes that are just as cool and interactive as any other fish. my baby black rhom eats from my hand (he's around 3.5" now) and begs for food non-stop.
that's the serrasalmus family,,totally different attitude,,the pygo's are really not that impressive other than the caribe,,you can get a rhom or an elongatus or an irritan and they are more aggressive but I prefer the other fish out there,,I am not trying to insult or offend anyone who is a diehard pirahna fan,,I am just speaking from personal experience.
I've seen convicts that could take out a tank of pirahna. They are beautiful fish, but i wouldnt get them for any reason other than looks. If i want agresssion i'd look else where. I have only ever kept the red bellies though. I've seen rhom but the the price scared the crap outa me. I would like to keep them again someday as a display.
jason
rayman45
05-05-2005, 10:45 PM
no ****ing ****
tattooedfish1
05-06-2005, 12:50 AM
I dont know about anyone elses rbps but mine shred whatever hits the water and leave it in pieces or eat it completely,I was feeding them convicts for a while but my supply ran out so Im back to large feeders,beef heart,pellets,green beans,flake,...ect.krill.my previous trio took out various S/A cichlids that people gave me that swore up and down they would kill my fish.Like always they wound up trying to breathe with no organs (kinda hard when youre hollowed out) anyways thats my experience with these guys.Right now I have 4 four to five inchers and 7 2-3inchers.
piranha45
05-06-2005, 2:59 PM
tattoo you forgot to videotape this stuff for me! :(
I dont know about anyone elses rbps but mine shred whatever hits the water and leave it in pieces or eat it completely,I was feeding them convicts for a while but my supply ran out so Im back to large feeders,beef heart,pellets,green beans,flake,...ect.krill.my previous trio took out various S/A cichlids that people gave me that swore up and down they would kill my fish.Like always they wound up trying to breathe with no organs (kinda hard when youre hollowed out) anyways thats my experience with these guys.Right now I have 4 four to five inchers and 7 2-3inchers.
How did you raise them?/condition them to feed? I had a tank full of 9" red bellies that ate anything that hit the water and bit all available hands. All the other ps I've kept were slow feeders but pretty fish. It took conditioning but the one tank was like caribes in a sun dried oxbow. How did you do it?
smoke187
05-08-2005, 6:49 AM
I had a small group (6) Red bellies but I have to admit they did piss me off half the time, a bit too skitish for my liking but they were pretty aggressive. Any other fish that was tossed into the tank got ripped to streads within seconds. I would have to say that red bellies are the little "*****es" of the Piranha family.. I gave them up and just got an African Tiger yesterday. Lolvely lil fish, always swimming around and spent half of yesterday charging and trying to take chomps of glass out in the bid of tearing its reflection to pieces hehe.
CentralMayhem
05-10-2005, 8:11 PM
not that they are mean. but when they are HUNGRY they could theoretically disembowel any of your cichlids. a small group of p's would literally destroy your cichlids if they were HUNGRY. otherwise they are just fin nippers that try to avoid the cichlids. just like any other mid water schooling tetras they dont stake out a territory much as a cichlid does. when all is said and done the p's could destroy cichlids. And that just came from someone who keeps central americans and loves em. im not a huge piranah fan but come on guys. gotta give credit where credit is due. they are flesh eating machines.
I got rid of my p's for an ATF and he is awesome,,when yo uopen the lid to put the food in he's right there waiting on it and when it hits the water,,don't blink because it is over fast.I tthink p's are good looking fish but I am happier with my ATF.I guess it's a personal prefference thing and I am in no way trying to make anyone mad here..I am just stating an opinion.If I was going to have another pirahna it would be an elongatus or and irritan.
Daddyo72
05-10-2005, 8:19 PM
The beauty of piranhas isn't in the kill or daily activity. It's the shoal. How they live, fight, eat, socialize, pecking orders, fights to be the top dog ETC.... If you want non stop action watch UFC on PPV.
To bad,piranhas is not legal in my country. :mad:
MidasMan
05-10-2005, 11:08 PM
Angie has some nice YELLOW CHICHLIDS. BOP
predsg
05-10-2005, 11:22 PM
I HAD PIRAHNAS YEARS AGO AND NOTHING WAS EVER LEFT ALIVE OR LEFT BEHIND. THEY WERE PRETTY BIG AND NOT SKITISH AT ALL!!! THEY WENT AFTER ANY AND EVERYTHING!!! HANDS INCLUDED LMAO
piranha45
05-11-2005, 12:42 AM
THEY WENT AFTER ANY AND EVERYTHING!!! HANDS INCLUDED LMAO
that is interesting.... seriously, how many times did you get bit cleaning the tank? how much flesh you lose?
R1_Ridah
05-11-2005, 1:25 PM
I think most everyone that's into predatory fish start of w/P's. I think it's just the excitement and bragging rights of having one. It's a fish not everyone in the block will have. But eventually people will grow out of.
I think they are overated.
I think daddyo72 said it best, don't expect them to be mean unless you treat a shoal right, alone they are boring but pretty.
I think most everyone that's into predatory fish start of w/P's. I think it's just the excitement and bragging rights of having one. It's a fish not everyone in the block will have. But eventually people will grow out of.
I think they are overated.
Exactly i bought my piranha's as babies, had them over a year, they were finally about 8-10" monsters but i just got bored of them. I got bored of not having any tankmates, and they just sat there unless they were eating. Also they are a very ugly fish haha. They were very cool at first, and they were awsome to watch them grow, they grew pretty fast but yes i did get bored, now im in to cichlids and saltwater!
I don't find them borring at all I guess it just depends on what you want them to do.
GreatWhite13
05-16-2005, 8:02 PM
Has anyone got info on where you can purchase piranhas online!!!!
piranha45
05-16-2005, 8:05 PM
no. nobody has any info.
Has anyone got info on where you can purchase piranhas online!!!!
Check tread named ILLEGAL for piranhaexotica, they even list elongatus.
Sharkaquarium.com and Aquascapeonline.com sales p's if you are not in an illegal state.
rayman45
05-17-2005, 8:28 PM
shark aquarium all the way
i go to his store all the time
going soon
yeayea123
05-22-2005, 11:15 AM
piranha's , for the most part, aren't 'agreesive', they're just hungry.
Yes piranha can be boring. I've kept a shaol of caribe, and solitary serras like blacks, manueli. My current collection is 1 10 1/2" diamond black, 1 8 1/2" diamond black, 1 manueli and a sanchezi. I prefer serras because of their shape, colouring etc. My best fish ever was an ATF. My future goal is to get another in a 360 gallon tank. Still wanna keep what i have though.
Ta.
eL ChiNo LoCo
05-31-2005, 1:47 AM
You may think that, but with Piranhas, 6 months is like if you had them for a week, they take a whole lot of patience for them to act normal.
sleepyflight
05-31-2005, 3:19 AM
I've never seen a pack of them do enough decent damage to make me think anything great. Some might like them but I know a certain pair of R. Dev./Trimac, male and female that when breeding, don't care how big would certainly pummel them before any disembowlment occured. Those two made me bleed plenty of times when I would do something as silly and quick as move a rock....not to mention cleaning the tank. They weren't even bother by nets trying to catch them, that was just something else to tare up for them. They were a healthy 8 in. plus though :evil_lol:
iheartfishies
05-31-2005, 6:20 AM
You may think that, but with Piranhas, 6 months is like if you had them for a week, they take a whole lot of patience for them to act normal.
That's what I heard.
This chick that used to work with me.....
wait...her husband used to work at my store then she...
eer..
anyway..
They had a shoal of 'em and it took over a year for their P's to even eat durring day light hours in front of them. After that, they where more active and agressive then ever.:)
shan24
06-02-2005, 12:09 AM
I thought piranhas would win by a mile... but not by some of these replies.
What's everyone's idea of the top 5 meanest fish? Assume single speciment only and that the fish are the same size... say 12".
This should be interesting.
S.
piranha45
06-02-2005, 12:30 AM
spawning pairs of cichlids, centrarchids, and other mid-sized nest guarders.
When not in breeding mode, there ain't any. There really isn't any one specie of fish out there that's guaranteed to be mean. Alot of people like to say the Asian Redtailed Catfish (http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Hemibagrus&speciesname=nemurus) is the worst, and I've heard plenty of morbid anecdotes in regards to them, but then I also hear reports of them getting beat down by regular old channel cats.
your question is frequently asked, and there really isn't a valid answer to it. You could always ask what the top 5 meanest fish are in YOUR EXPERIENCE.. but then that's hardly an absolute reference that anyone could use and expect to get reliable results from
jardini, dovii, smallmouth bass, undulated triggerfish, bowfin, red snakeheads, poecellids, green sunfish, trimacs, chipokae, H. fasciatus, beani, fahaka puffers, festae, damselfish... the list could go on a looong ways.
Do you know how many of the above fish I mentioned have an Undefeated record, out of all the accounts I've heard on all of them? None.
Some species of fish are definitely more aggressive than others, but when you're looking for the cream of the crop or whatnot, it depends on a given fish's individual personality, not the fish's specie
Alot of people regard the Texas cichlid to be a fairly unexceptional fish in the aggression department, and my own experiences correlate with this.
But then...
I can attest to Texas Cichlids having LOTS of 'personality'. A number of years ago I was snorkeling in the Devil's River near Del Rio, Texas. The water there is magnificently clean and clear. I was in about 6 feet of water and noticed an area on the bottom where all of the accumulated muck had been cleared away. Figuring it was a Largemouth Bass or Sunfish nesting area I swam up for a closer look.
Imagine my surprise when a large Texas Cichlid decided that I was TOO damned close to his house and attacked the faceplate of my diving mask. That blasted fish then turned and made another run at my mask and almost managed to knock it off. He didn't stop attacking until I backed away to a respectful distance.
These fish were aggressive enough to have their nest right in the middle of the river with absolutely no cover and to defend it against legions of small- to middle-sized gar in addition to sunfish and bass.
Now THAT is personality!!!
I don't know of any fish that would voraciously-- some would say suicidally-- attack a creature 100 times its own size.
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=s-frozen-smelt.
piranha45
06-02-2005, 5:17 AM
you threw a dead piece of smelt in there and they ate it, I don't see what that proves, other than that they have impeccable jaws. Notice how the pleco looks fine and dandy and has probably been with them for months already, for example.
phene4grene420
06-02-2005, 12:42 PM
no. nobody has any info.
no info here, only data
Does any one know how much and where i can get a red devil in calif.
DanDanUK
06-03-2005, 1:58 PM
not to take anything away from you because you do sound like you know what your on about having owned some exellant fish. But Piranha's sould never be bought because of there reputation of aggression. I have a breading pair of piranhas and have had them for some time if you only have the one piranha it's end of story you shouldn't ever keep piranhas on ther own keep them in pairs or more they are social creatures if you have more than one and you dont feel they are acting as they should be try getting a bigger tank as piranhas can get very depressed that maybe a reason why they are not acting aggressive as you would put it. Also should your fish be depressed (let's hope they ain't) make two water changes a week doing water changes stimulates the fish and hopefully it may perk them back up again. I hope you find the answers to your problem and if you didn't allready know what i have told you i hope it helps.
piranha45
06-03-2005, 3:47 PM
Does any one know how much and where i can get a red devil in calif.
call your local fish stores... they are quite common
JamesM
06-07-2005, 7:55 AM
pirahna are only overated like razor toothed kittens
faebo_tarzan
07-05-2005, 9:17 AM
Do u guys buy piranhas to show off for your friends or what?! And before you buy a fish, find INFORMATION about it before you buy it so you wont be disapointed. I think that the reason that your piranhas isnt so agressive as you wish it would be, is that it is very hard to simulate their natural environment. For example they should be in a shoal of at least 100 or more individuals. Thats impossible to do at home. But if u have like 10 piranhas, provide them with hidingplaces and just handle them right they will not be as shy as yours are.
If u buy a piranha for "showing-off" I would recommend u to think again. In my opinion it´s the hunger that is making them agressive, they dont kill for fun.
twinturbo
07-05-2005, 4:03 PM
I have a rhom dat will tell u differently. he doesn't kill to eat, he just kills to kill.
they dont kill for fun.
Meanest fish? PUFFERS, they are just plain mean. I like piranha but they have their own personalities. If you keep rb's in shoals you can condition them to be aggressive feeders, enough so that 6"ers will slaughter an 8" catfish or sunny as soon as it hits the water.
DeLgAdO
07-05-2005, 5:53 PM
ive seen on an episode of fear factor where they had to dive into a tank full of pinanha, my mom was freaking out about it, i was like pfffffff their too scared to even attack, no piranha eats the second you dump it in a tank.
If they let em acclimate i bet its a different story. . :devil: . .
DeLgAdO
07-05-2005, 5:59 PM
i think pirahnas are wusses if kept in small groups, have them in a group of 20 or 30, with a big tank and clean soft acid water and with plenty of cover, get em well acclimated then when you drop a chick leg in, they'll be all over it like flies on ****.
CentralMayhem
07-05-2005, 6:28 PM
delgado, sorry man those were pacus. I have had a mini-pack of 6 rbp's in my 300 with a **** load of cichlids that were quite a bit larger . the p's were only shy for about an hour. after they came out they were very active and would eat anything i could get down to them. the fact that the cichlids got there faster apparently didnt bother them, because one by one all of my fish had huge perfectly round pieces taken out of their fins and some came up with a missing eye. The p's did not "fight" with the cichlids, but stayed away from them till one turned its back. then BOOM another chunk of fin gone. The real fights were the ones going on between the p's. trying to fight for dominance. as soon as i get acces to a comp. that has the ability to put in 3.5" discs ill post em here for ya. all my p's ended up as 2 and all my cichlids always looked terrible. they were meaner and chased the p's, but the p's looked great and the poor cichlids were gettin ugly. i got rid of the p's to a friend, and he has them in a 180 bow front in his house where they eat ANYTHING you throw in.
CentralMayhem
07-05-2005, 6:32 PM
and that just came from a cichlid fan.
DeLgAdO
07-05-2005, 6:49 PM
delgado, sorry man those were pacus. I have had a mini-pack of 6 rbp's in my 300 with a **** load of cichlids that were quite a bit larger . the p's were only shy for about an hour. after they came out they were very active and would eat anything i could get down to them. the fact that the cichlids got there faster apparently didnt bother them, because one by one all of my fish had huge perfectly round pieces taken out of their fins and some came up with a missing eye. The p's did not "fight" with the cichlids, but stayed away from them till one turned its back. then BOOM another chunk of fin gone. The real fights were the ones going on between the p's. trying to fight for dominance. as soon as i get acces to a comp. that has the ability to put in 3.5" discs ill post em here for ya. all my p's ended up as 2 and all my cichlids always looked terrible. they were meaner and chased the p's, but the p's looked great and the poor cichlids were gettin ugly. i got rid of the p's to a friend, and he has them in a 180 bow front in his house where they eat ANYTHING you throw in
WOW!
faebo_tarzan
07-06-2005, 3:20 AM
I have a rhom dat will tell u differently. he doesn't kill to eat, he just kills to kill.
Im talking about the Pygocentrus family.
faebo_tarzan
07-06-2005, 3:22 AM
ive seen on an episode of fear factor where they had to dive into a tank full of pinanha, my mom was freaking out about it, i was like pfffffff their too scared to even attack, no piranha eats the second you dump it in a tank.
If they let em acclimate i bet its a different story. . :devil: . .
Wasnt that a bunch of Pacus?
Wasnt that a bunch of Pacus?
Yep, think so, with a few mytennis slipped in as well.
yeh, i seen piranhas at most lfs, but they just sit there and look at you for hours..... they don't move much, until foods comes down
yeh, i seen piranhas at most lfs, but they just sit there and look at you for hours..... they don't move much, until foods comes down
Much like me!
MrfisH
07-14-2005, 6:19 PM
I WOuld have to say that, before my RED Bellies caught Ick and croked on me, they were pretty aggressive when they needed to eat, but they always hid and i could stick my hand in the tank to clean it with no worries. After that I went to my local pet store (best in the world) and got a big oscar, had him for awhile thought he was mean as :swear:, year and a half later introduced a smaller red devil and he calls the oscars bluff like no other. :hitting:
fishnthings
07-15-2005, 10:35 AM
ive got a red belly bout 6 inches and its the biggest pussy ive had. the damn thing wont even eat while im watching it. wtf
ive got a red belly bout 6 inches and its the biggest pussy ive had. the damn thing wont even eat while im watching it. wtf
Have you looked in a mirrow lately?
Phtstrat
07-18-2005, 10:40 PM
Piranha are not "over rated". Overly hyped, perhaps, but not over rated.
People who enjoy piranhas don't like them for their aggression, because in most circumstances, they are not outright killers.
Don't just bash fish because you can't appreciated them.
pirana-man
07-28-2005, 1:23 AM
If you think red devils are nasty buy your -self a10inch dovii i have never seen a fish lock jaws turn the fish upside down still locked up and do crazy stuff like that in a fight . I have had cichlids along time and never seen a fish like this beast also at this size they will bite your hand ant they have teeth big ones
MR.FREEZ
07-29-2005, 1:38 AM
Piranha are not "over rated". Overly hyped, perhaps, but not over rated.
People who enjoy piranhas don't like them for their aggression, because in most circumstances, they are not outright killers.
Don't just bash fish because you can't appreciated them.
i like that answer, i love my fish i think they are great :headbang2
rayman45
07-29-2005, 1:41 AM
i like that answer, i love my fish i think they are great :headbang2
i knew you were gunna see this
btw
p suck
my sh will eat all your p's
DeLgAdO
07-29-2005, 1:51 AM
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=s-frozen-smelt.
WHOA!!! YEAAAA!!! PIRANHA AT THEIR FINEST!!!!
DeLgAdO
07-29-2005, 1:52 AM
aboput the fear factor thing, are you sure they are pacus?
pirana-man
07-29-2005, 11:05 PM
Buy a black rhombeus or a elongatus and u wont be disapointed.
sandtiger
07-30-2005, 12:17 AM
If I ever get a pirahna it will be a black rhombeus...gotta be my favortie. I am not a big pirahna fan because basically...I am not a tetra fan and that is what they really are. Not much different then any other tetra. I do like a few tetras like the congo and blind cave fish and once again...the black rhombeus. I would not call them aggresive fish but rather "big eaters".
pirnahas suck... at least the red belly ones.
pirnahas suck... at least the red belly ones.
YAH! they suck the guts out of a pauc and say :22_yikes: they don't only look like ****!! they taste like it too. :welcome:
my reds are very agressive and kill anything that enters their tank. They are not over rated.. It really depends on the fish, like people they all have different attitudes.
RhomBeusBoi
08-01-2005, 2:50 PM
what you need to do is get a really big rhom or a large school of geryis. ya i agree reds are weak but with a rhom, u cant go wrong!
thamunsta
08-02-2005, 12:56 AM
i knew you were gunna see this
btw
p suck
my sh will eat all your p's
a shoal of adult rbp's would kick the **** out of any sh it would be overwhelmed by razor teeth and would be reduced to a skeleton while its bodyless head gasps its last breaths
RhomBeusBoi
08-02-2005, 1:26 AM
I saw a video once that had a bunch of hard hittin' thugged out super reds devour a lamb in just a few minutes......all that was left was a carcus, dogg....it was intense thats fo sho....
FormulatedFire
08-03-2005, 1:02 AM
yea but if you are just interested in them for that reason they you will be disappointed and will not enjoy the fish
RhomBeusBoi
08-03-2005, 1:22 AM
yea but if you are just interested in them for that reason they you will be disappointed and will not enjoy the fish
You talkin to me, dogg? I never said I enjoyed them for that. .I thinks pygos are pussyfish....the only time I ever saw them throw down was in a vid out in their natural environment devouring a carcus..it was bloody, thats fo sho....pygos in an aquarium are usually weak, that's fo sho...
tdoube421
05-14-2006, 6:13 PM
How fast do pirahnas grow and what substrate is best for them. also do they do good with live plants?
tdoube421
05-14-2006, 6:29 PM
who has good vid tapes
How fast do pirahnas grow and what substrate is best for them. also do they do good with live plants?
I have always used planted tanks with Ps to lower aggression between the fish but sometimes they trim the plants so it is better to stick with cheaper fast growing plants. I also like a fairly fine grade natural color gravel but have used a dark blue grey gravel with a wide band of scarlet gravel across it that looked nice. The tank also contained some fair sized rocks, several silver coins, and a few human bones from an anatomical skeleton.
Different species grow at different rates and sloe down as they get bigger. My experience with RBPs is that they will reach 6-7" in a year, and maybe 9" in two, then grow very slowly after that.
Try the video lounge for vids.
Tongue33
05-15-2006, 4:07 AM
I have been in the aquarium hobby for a long time and I have just gottne some pirahna's and have had them for about 6 months and I can say I am very dissapointed.The species I have are not what everyone said they are and they are nice fish don't get me wrong but not the fish I expected.I have had snake heads and shovel nose cats and cichlids that have been more aggressive than what I have witneesed in the pygos I have. :swear: T hey are nice fish but I wouldn't buy them again if I had it to do over.
That's because they are not necissarily predatory fish... They are sacvengers. The clean up crew of the amazon... They are only extremely agressive in overpopulated areas.. Infact there are parts of the amazon you cannot step foot inwith out losing most of the lfesh off of it..
let them go humgry for a mintue..... See what happens..
furious piranha
05-16-2006, 3:57 PM
this is a good thread b/c it lets the truth out about piuranhas.....pygos especially arent very agressive. they are only territorial. thats 2 different things.
archie0222
05-17-2006, 1:10 AM
Been keeping RB's for a couple of months now and they are about 7-8 inchers. All I can say is that they are a great fish to observe even though they are sometimes skittish I find that they are very aggresive when they are hungry.(gave them mice) Had to try it at least once. Sad to say that it's very hard to get rhoms in my country. I would love to get my hands on one.
cichilds are over rated..
focker
05-19-2006, 1:10 PM
yes as far as aggresiveness cichlids are overated. i have a cichlid tank and i have 3 rainbow sharks 2 dinosaur eels a small bowfin and a minnow in there with them.. but i love em cause i have breeders.. now lets get back to the pirahnas.. ps are very skittish and lame in small numbers but if u have the tank to keep 15 to 20 of them they are awesome.. throw in anything.. bullfrog bluegills sunfish mouse maybe a lame oscar [thats just my opinion i hate oscars] and the ps will rip em up in seconds... they do a ton better when there in a group of large numbers.. ive tried it twice.. the first time with 4 ps and i thought they were lame id throw in a blue gill and wait a hour and they ate half and i would have to fish out the waste and flush it so it was a pain.. now i have a bunch and its much cooler.. no waste to clean up and immediate action.
SiestaSkyy
05-19-2006, 10:24 PM
yeah numbers really is the key. and as everyone knows personality plays a big role in "your" fish. my fish eat anything they are not used to seeing in thier water. they also live happy with all my other BREEDING fish in thier tank. piranha are like pit bull, depends how they are raised.
i have many specs of ciclids and piranhas the ciclids would'nt last a day in there tank
I dont know about you guys but I just love watching my rbps school around the tank together. Its also still amazes me watch them hunt down feeder fish when I put them in the tank. It seems like they swim a few laps around the tank first to get a game plan down and then wham the feeders are gone. I also love watching their silver speckles flicker under the light when they swim in the powerhead. They spend most of their day doing this, looking like an amusement park ride for them. They swim up the current from one end of the tank to the other and then when they get right up by the powerhead the float back to beginning in the current and hit it again. I have kept all kinds of fish, cichlids, saltwater and I have the say that piranhas are definitely my favorite so far. Just my opinion.
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Lockness' Oscar
05-24-2006, 5:00 PM
They are pretty over rated, though.
its al about what you want from them really.
layzmob
05-25-2006, 4:14 PM
I enjoyed my rb's when they were juveniles and in large quantities. Now, Im really enjoying my new ATF's!!!!
nkeesy76
05-31-2006, 9:28 AM
I just never seem to loose intrest!
Stop watching old adventure films and look at the fish as is , without the inflated reputation, they are great fish.
focker
06-01-2006, 5:45 PM
They are pretty over rated, though.
if u thing there overated then keep about 15 to 20 of them and dont throw in no dumb goldfish or minnow throw in a large sunfish or bluegill and watch the fun.... i catch about a 7 inch bluegill with about 4 to 5 inches of girth and put him in with all my 2 inchers and they shred him.. its awesome..ill put my arm all the way to the bottom of a p tank if thers only 3 or 4 and they will run.. i will not do the same with a large number of them.
cciesielski
06-04-2006, 10:10 AM
they are pussies of the tank my cons would kill him
they killed a very large oscar of mine but its cuz they had just hatched eggs
id personally prefer a pacu over pahranna
cheaper more agressive gets huge fast
up to 90 lbs
cciesielski
06-04-2006, 10:14 AM
I dont know about anyone elses rbps but mine shred whatever hits the water and leave it in pieces or eat it completely,I was feeding them convicts for a while but my supply ran out so Im back to large feeders,beef heart,pellets,green beans,flake,...ect.krill.my previous trio took out various S/A cichlids that people gave me that swore up and down they would kill my fish.Like always they wound up trying to breathe with no organs (kinda hard when youre hollowed out) anyways thats my experience with these guys.Right now I have 4 four to five inchers and 7 2-3inchers.
dont feed them cons
ur wasting a beautiful fish
so just dont they are my favorite cichlid
and i bet if the pahranna was with other fish hed be less agressive
piranha_guy_dan
06-08-2006, 3:05 PM
they are pygo's is what your problem is. if you wanted aggression then you should got a serrasalmus species. if you want a cool feeding frenzy to watch then you want pygo's.
blacklabel_1988
06-08-2006, 3:08 PM
my pacus are spazes, i want to get rid of them.
any fish any time. i need to feed my fish!!!!!!!!!
piranha_guy_dan
06-09-2006, 2:21 AM
nice mac and rhom jawz!
If you think P's are pussies, keep your ignoant opinion to your self.:headbang2
How about we try to keep fish bigger than inches long-then form an opinion.
Are you a MONSTER FISH KEEPER, or are you a bait keeper?:woot:
DangerousDan
06-15-2006, 4:42 PM
I dont get the whole Piranha are boring????
I think people that say they are boring are just numptys that think they are getting the serial killers of the fish world. There for not done no research so in my opinion should not be keeping them anyway.
Dan
ElectricBlue
06-15-2006, 11:37 PM
:headshake
Agreeable. Alot of people get the impression they will sit and watch a tornado in a tank and have a box full of rats ready to throw in.
Just to watch a mess occur and clog up the filter system.
freeskierrocket
06-15-2006, 11:56 PM
:headshake
Agreeable. Alot of people get the impression they will sit and watch a tornado in a tank and have a box full of rats ready to throw in.
Just to watch a mess occur and clog up the filter system.
Agreed, p's are boring, Exo's rule, p's drool......hahahahah!!!!
p's = blah
Exo's = hurricane.........
.....My opinion , I respect yours....haters.........
DeLgAdO
06-16-2006, 2:33 AM
I have been in the aquarium hobby for a long time and I have just gottne some pirahna's and have had them for about 6 months and I can say I am very dissapointed.The species I have are not what everyone said they are and they are nice fish don't get me wrong but not the fish I expected.I have had snake heads and shovel nose cats and cichlids that have been more aggressive than what I have witneesed in the pygos I have. :swear: T hey are nice fish but I wouldn't buy them again if I had it to do over.
you put to much expectation into the fish.
your fault
pirahnas are fierce animals,
but you have to satisfy all there needs before you can see there true personality.
see the videos from our mfk member "dongointhewater"
he know what he's doing
and first time p keepers who buy them thinking they are going to be awsome fish......well they dont.......
ronnie
06-16-2006, 3:26 AM
my opinion is P's are not over rated. but the owner are.
they expect too much.
not just they want a piranha it doesnt mean that they would do what you expect.
i agree with searching much information as possible before a person purchase a fish.
DeLgAdO
06-16-2006, 4:05 AM
my opinion is P's are not over rated. but the owner are.
they expect too much.
not just they want a piranha it doesnt mean that they would do what you expect.
i agree with searching much information as possible before a person purchase a fish.
right on bro! :thumbsup:
noreaster
06-16-2006, 9:44 AM
you put to much expectation into the fish.
your fault
pirahnas are fierce animals,
but you have to satisfy all there needs before you can see there true personality.
see the videos from our mfk member "dongointhewater"
he know what he's doing
and first time p keepers who buy them thinking they are going to be awsome fish......well they dont.......
He definitley has some awsome videos
you put to much expectation into the fish.
your fault
pirahnas are fierce animals,
but you have to satisfy all there needs before you can see there true personality.
see the videos from our mfk member "dongointhewater"
he know what he's doing
and first time p keepers who buy them thinking they are going to be awsome fish......well they dont.......
Well said.
croc 2-3
06-16-2006, 9:51 PM
out of the pygos get either the brandti or spilos. they are more outgoing then the natteri. all pygos. are schooler so i guess it it is the safety in numbers thing. Natteri are what i call roll on fish meaning they only have heart once they are in a group. kept 3 with a pr. or devils yrs. ago devils kept them in the corner. but don't be fooled once they get about 9-11 inches if they don't turn on each they will use those teeth to attack another fish if provoked into a fight.
DangerousDan
06-17-2006, 4:53 AM
out of the pygos get either the brandti or spilos. they are more outgoing then the natteri. all pygos. are schooler so i guess it it is the safety in numbers thing. Natteri are what i call roll on fish meaning they only have heart once they are in a group. kept 3 with a pr. or devils yrs. ago devils kept them in the corner. but don't be fooled once they get about 9-11 inches if they don't turn on each they will use those teeth to attack another fish if provoked into a fight.
Brandti and Spilos are NOT pygos! they are serrasalmus and there for general rule of thumb should be kept alone.
Pygos consist of Nattereri, piraya, cariba, and ternetzi
Ternetzi probley being the "Hardest" of them all, with piraya being most "troublesome".
Dan
Recycling Works
06-17-2006, 1:11 PM
Have had p on and off since the late 80's when i was a kid, have always been my favorite fish and still are. Everyone has there own favorites, look at all the tanks here, no two are the same, but all are loved by the owners, p are not for everyone
croc 2-3
06-17-2006, 5:24 PM
Brandti and Spilos are NOT pygos! they are serrasalmus and there for general rule of thumb should be kept alone.
Pygos consist of Nattereri, piraya, cariba, and ternetzi
Ternetzi probley being the "Hardest" of them all, with piraya being most "troublesome".
Dan
thanks for the update. now I know why they are more aggressive. wow so i've kept those & rhombs. as with the natteri. never kept any of the other pygos. then. might give them a try. my brandti was vicious kept him to himself. I kept a rhomb. with a mcuh larger oscar & a pr. of dempseys for a manth once then the rhomb grew to large & i moved him solo. I see cariba & piraya at the LFS all the time. so when I get space I'll get some. they have some S. elongatus there as with the other aforementioned serrasalmus.
ZOO YORK 207
06-20-2006, 1:49 AM
I have been in the aquarium hobby for a long time and I have just gottne some pirahna's and have had them for about 6 months and I can say I am very dissapointed.The species I have are not what everyone said they are and they are nice fish don't get me wrong but not the fish I expected.I have had snake heads and shovel nose cats and cichlids that have been more aggressive than what I have witneesed in the pygos I have. :swear: T hey are nice fish but I wouldn't buy them again if I had it to do over.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
ronnie
06-20-2006, 4:10 AM
AGAIN:
my opinion is P's are not over rated. but the owner are.
they expect too much.
not just they want a piranha it doesnt mean that they would do what you expect.
i agree with searching much information as possible before a person purchase a fish.
NOTE to people who wants aggressive pets:
try to catch a crocodile within its nesting ground. lets see whos aggressive.
hahahah.
again also. the owners are over rated not the pets
i have always wanted a pirahnas are the best fish i think well nealy because they got the coolest name:grinyes: so :swear: yes they are the best any one got one for me
ZOO YORK 207
06-20-2006, 12:06 PM
yeah there cool but only when they eat otherwise they sit there and do nothing
wvreincarnate
06-20-2006, 12:15 PM
just doing this so i can look at pictures.
Stone Like Fish
06-20-2006, 5:48 PM
i have always wanted a pirahnas are the best fish i think well nealy because they got the coolest name:grinyes: so :swear: yes they are the best any one got one for me
haha, can't get them legally in queensland penga:(
fishnatic
06-27-2006, 9:53 PM
I think as far as red bellies go the larger the shoal the more aggression I have 14 4in RBs in a shoal that rips anything that hits the water.
kove32
07-16-2006, 12:23 AM
Didn't read the whole thread but go figure this.. a piranha has teeth, simply put.. You can have an aggressive Red Devil, etc.. but put a piranha of the same size in the tank and I guarentee the P will come out alive.. simply because they have teeth and won't take ****.
sirasoni
07-16-2006, 4:15 AM
Didn't read the whole thread but go figure this.. a piranha has teeth, simply put.. You can have an aggressive Red Devil, etc.. but put a piranha of the same size in the tank and I guarentee the P will come out alive.. simply because they have teeth and won't take ****.
Not true...I'd almost always put my money on the cichlid. Yes, Ps are better "equipped" in terms of teeth and jaw strength, but few piranhas have the temperament to match that of a large cichlid. I guess it could go either way but ehh what a waste of money/fish
Ruger345
07-16-2006, 7:19 AM
I had a 1 and half inch convict keep a 3-4" piranha in the corner of my tank until i took the convict out. it was the convicts tank and had been for 2months and i added the p, because i had a tank crack. this lasted for a few hours until i could run to the lfs to get a new tank. you have to love the fish to really understand what they are all about. if you think you will see what you have seen in the moives then you will be very pissed.
Weldd
07-16-2006, 11:14 AM
I agree they are not the most aggressive fish out there but a large shoal in a large tank is still very impressive when it come to dinnertime...
black_monster
07-16-2006, 10:59 PM
yea, id say piranhas are over rated. it all depends on their personality, some piranhas are aggressive and some are shy. all serra species of piranhas i had were shy. my shoal of red bellies were somewhat aggressive though.
Chinook
07-25-2006, 9:06 PM
While usually tetras like to school, are pirahna good fish to keep solo?
Ryan25
07-25-2006, 11:19 PM
Get a large Serrasalmus Rhombeus and say its a wimp, I know they are not. This is coming from a guy who has kept piranha's and I currently keep cichlids, wolf fish, silver Arrowana. None are boring in my eye. thats just my opinion though, not trying to make anybody mad!
ronnie
07-25-2006, 11:57 PM
I had a 1 and half inch convict keep a 3-4" piranha in the corner of my tank until i took the convict out. it was the convicts tank and had been for 2months and i added the p, because i had a tank crack. this lasted for a few hours until i could run to the lfs to get a new tank. you have to love the fish to really understand what they are all about. if you think you will see what you have seen in the moives then you will be very pissed.
who in the right mind would believe in the movies???
duh
iketurner
07-29-2006, 5:50 PM
I think most everyone that's into predatory fish start of w/P's. I think it's just the excitement and bragging rights of having one. It's a fish not everyone in the block will have. But eventually people will grow out of.
I think they are overated.
I wish I could say the same.... damn you Florida!!!
dannyneedham
08-02-2006, 4:41 PM
never had pirahnas
sathanas2
11-17-2007, 3:37 PM
:FIREdevilI have a black pirahna. I've had him since he was about the size of a qaurter. He is 5-6 inches long now. He will not eat in front of anyone but I also don't starve him. You could spin around in front of him and he will eat whilwe your back is turned. If you want a frenzy feeding with most any pirahna you need to have like 20 of them together and feed them on a regular basis or they will start to eat each other.
_Sushi_
11-19-2007, 12:05 PM
This post is long and drawn out, so please bear with me:
When they are small, piranhas are the feeders of the Amazon. That doesn't do too much for your "badas$" personality, or so I wouldn't think. As they get larger, they become the eaters of the Amazon. Still, they're most aggressive during the dry season when food is scarce.
I know you are talking about Pygos, but even with the serra species (I'm saying species of the serrasalmus genus, not that serra IS a species.) they look similar to baby pygos when young.....You know why? Because they will shoal with pygos for the safety that comes in large numbers. As they mature, they prefer to live in smaller groups (yes, I say GROUPS) than their gregarious cousins. They aren't completely solitary. BUT, you have to have a very large tank to house more than one (500+ gallons) I've read that on one of the Piranha go-to sites, I'm thinking it was www.opefe.com (http://www.opefe.com/)
So, if you did some decent research before purchasing, you would've found out that a LOT of piranha keepers will say that they are a skittish animal. I knew this coming into Piranhas, and I'm not disappointed in the least.
As a matter of fact, when I come across someone who has the wrong idea about piranhas (bloodthirsty psychotic killers) I usually inform them that piranhas with that personality are few and far between, and are actually conditioned to act that way.
We started out with a single red belly. This guy has a bad eye, that I'm thinking he's partially, if not completely, blind in. Unfortunately, because of his handicap, group aggression, and my large attachment to this particular fish, he will never be in a shoal. BUT, after starting him off, from a cute lil’ 2-incher to now 4, my fiancé, who is learning about them as I go, has decided that HE wants one.
Answer me this, if they are indeed overrated, with no personality or anything to offer the truly devoted fish keeper, why would someone want a "pointless" fish?
They may be "tetras with teeth" and biologically, they really are, but, that doesn't stop them from being my all-time favorite fish.
Considering the fact that piranhas take chunks out of their prey, this means that they could "take out" a fish that is much larger than they are.
This isn't really the point of keeping fish, if you keep them just to fight them, get bettas, and you should be tossed into a prison cell with all of the other morons who fight animals.
Anyways, even though they can accomplish this if need be, my red belly currently lives with 2 5 inch plecos. Occasionally, he and the pleco he was raised with (my fiancé’s) will squabble. Ya know what, he could RUIN that pleco if he really wanted to, and that pleco only gets his fins nipped.
The moral of this story is;
If you don’t want to end up being disappointed, DO YOUR HOMEWORK first!!
Secondary moral;
Don't believe everything you hear from most petstores (there are exceptions to this rule) and don't believe everything you see on Youtube!
dzb912
11-19-2007, 4:40 PM
yes they are very over rated
Rockbass6
11-19-2007, 6:09 PM
I think there way overrated personally.
Nabbig2
11-20-2007, 11:31 PM
I had a 1 and half inch convict keep a 3-4" piranha in the corner of my tank until i took the convict out. it was the convicts tank and had been for 2months and i added the p, because i had a tank crack. this lasted for a few hours until i could run to the lfs to get a new tank. you have to love the fish to really understand what they are all about. if you think you will see what you have seen in the moives then you will be very pissed.
Well, convicts are agressive as hell, yes.
But I see your point. Media depicts piranhas as bloodthirsty and evil. Not always the case, however.
IMO piranha's are very aggressive fish. at certain times. you will find the occassional one that is absolutely crazy like my manueli. he won't stop attacking his reflection of me when i walk in the room.
If you get piranha's do your research. if you want an aggressive shoal get caribe or piraya. if you want a crazy single fish. go for a manueli or rhom or altuvie. And find a supplier that can find you the one you want. if you want a finger chaser ask for it.
and every fish will be diferent just like every person is a little different.
Grosse Gurke
11-21-2007, 6:32 PM
I dont think these fish are over-rated by anyone in the hobby. They may not live up to the reputation they got from Hollywood...but name something that isnt over-rated or exaggerated in Hollywood? I find these treads funny...just because you bought into the hype created by people that know zero about these fish...now you are complaining.
I think people need to take more responsibility for the pets they want to keep...and maybe do a little research about them before making the impulse purchase of a living creature.
vinizuh
11-21-2007, 7:01 PM
I dont think these fish are over-rated by anyone in the hobby. They may not live up to the reputation they got from Hollywood...but name something that isnt over-rated or exaggerated in Hollywood? I find these treads funny...just because you bought into the hype created by people that know zero about these fish...now you are complaining.
I think people need to take more responsibility for the pets they want to keep...and maybe do a little research about them before making the impulse purchase of a living creature.
x2
RonTheRHOM
11-22-2007, 5:10 AM
I dont think they are overrated at all, what do people want them to do.... jump out of the tank grow legs and go on a wild killing spree biting off the ankles of everyone it passes? I think people actually want to see piranha on human aggression, in the wild large Rhom take down prey MUCH larger than themselves and viciously maul it. How aggressive can one rhom or a small shoal of pygo be in a normal size home fish tank, that gets fed food on a silver platter and doesnt even need to use its natural instincts very often. If Piranha v Human is what you want then invest in a swimming pool size pond, stock it with hundreds of piranha that have been starved for the past month, get your mate, slash his/her arm and throw them in... then see whats left after 20 seconds.... This is basically what you are saying you need to see to validate their aggression in the movies. In my eyes all you need to remember is... would you stick your hand in an 18" rhoms home and harass it... no ...... would you have fingers left.... no is that not vicious enough for you?
master.k.
11-22-2007, 7:37 AM
I dont think they are overrated at all, what do people want them to do.... jump out of the tank grow legs and go on a wild killing spree biting off the ankles of everyone it passes? I think people actually want to see piranha on human aggression, in the wild large Rhom take down prey MUCH larger than themselves and viciously maul it. How aggressive can one rhom or a small shoal of pygo be in a normal size home fish tank, that gets fed food on a silver platter and doesnt even need to use its natural instincts very often. If Piranha v Human is what you want then invest in a swimming pool size pond, stock it with hundreds of piranha that have been starved for the past month, get your mate, slash his/her arm and throw them in... then see whats left after 20 seconds.... This is basically what you are saying you need to see to validate their aggression in the movies. In my eyes all you need to remember is... would you stick your hand in an 18" rhoms home and harass it... no ...... would you have fingers left.... no is that not vicious enough for you?
:ROFL::iagree::cheers:X2 on this one .
ESJBond007
11-22-2007, 8:49 AM
I agree also.. they are everything i expected.
yourockit
11-22-2007, 1:16 PM
:ROFL::iagree::cheers:X2 on this one .
awesome imagination master k. i agree in part with both parties of the dispute. i had 12 pygos, caribas, after having them for a while i realize that what i really wanted is 40 or 50 pygos in order to achieve the complete pirahna experience. persons who have less than twenty pygos really are just not fulfilling the pgyocentratus (?) ideal. these folks need to grow up and get decent size shoals not these little kiddie tanks with five to ten fishees.
master.k.
11-24-2007, 6:48 PM
Ouch ! A shoal of 40 to 50 LOL:ROFL: I WISH :eek:
A Pool of pygo :headbang2 What can stand up to them "50 Pygo"
Over rated I think not , Let's see .....................................
Snake Head ---------DEAD.
Black Rohm ------------DEAD.
Frontosa-----------DEAD.
Jack Dempsy---------DEAD.
100 convicts----------DEAD.
Breading Pair Of Red DEVIL's :FIREdevil------------DEAD.
Pyraya-------------DEAD.
24" Oscar---------------DEAD.
50 red rosy feeder's -------------- 5 will never get ate , Fast little basters :ROFL:
Do you all over rated pig heads get the point ...
IF NOT , YES ONE PIRANHA IS A PUSS BAG BUT "50" :ROFL::owned::cool-1:
yourockit
11-29-2007, 5:56 AM
a few days ago i saw a shoal of five or six massive pygos, they looked awesome. i'm going to get back into the piranha hobby when i move to the east coast, which i hear is piranha heaven. ideally, i'll get a tank big enough to house 30-50 pygos (reds, caribas, and pirayas). the only fish I like better than piranhas is atf. but i have never seen a big atf. characins rule.
RonTheRHOM
11-30-2007, 5:05 AM
^^^^^^ Body disposal unit over here for anyone living in L.A
:naughty:
unannon
12-01-2007, 4:51 PM
Let's see .....................................
24" Oscar---------------DEAD.
:bs: never seen one that big ever.
master.k.
12-01-2007, 7:56 PM
Me nether :D
But it would be :lipsseale
spero
12-02-2007, 12:34 AM
you can train your p's to be agressive. baby them and thats what u will ahve just like any animal out there
Ouch ! A shoal of 40 to 50 LOL:ROFL: I WISH :eek:
A Pool of pygo :headbang2 What can stand up to them "50 Pygo"
Over rated I think not , Let's see .....................................
Snake Head ---------DEAD.
Black Rohm ------------DEAD.
Frontosa-----------DEAD.
Jack Dempsy---------DEAD.
100 convicts----------DEAD.
Breading Pair Of Red DEVIL's :FIREdevil------------DEAD.
Pyraya-------------DEAD.
24" Oscar---------------DEAD.
50 red rosy feeder's -------------- 5 will never get ate , Fast little basters :ROFL:
Do you all over rated pig heads get the point ...
IF NOT , YES ONE PIRANHA IS A PUSS BAG BUT "50" :ROFL::owned::cool-1:
:banhim: That is by far the dumbest set of examples you can think of. It's like saying 20 asian gangbangers against one big black dude, of course the black guy is going to get murked.
Now lets try 50 snake head against 50 piranha or 50 Black Rohms, or 50 Red Devils. Your precious little Piranha would be feeder fish. LMAO. Go back to the drawing board chump.
SiestaSkyy
12-05-2007, 1:50 PM
the 50 snakehead would be busy fighting each other as well.
Tango374
12-05-2007, 2:02 PM
I thought this stupid ass thread got locked
_Sushi_
12-05-2007, 2:22 PM
nope, the second was closed, not this one though....not yet at least.
master.k.
12-05-2007, 7:15 PM
:swear::ROFL:
jekylcharles
03-19-2009, 3:44 AM
LOOKEN TO DONATE THEM FOR A CHARITABLE FUND, I LIVE IN WASHINGTON IT IS ILLEGAL TO SELL BUT NOT TO DONATE OR HAVE. AN ALL THE PETSTORES DO NOT HAVE, I HAD TWO REDBELLYS ONE I HAD WHEN IT WAS JUST A BABY AN THE OTHER WHEN IT WAS 6 MONTHS OLD THE ONE I GOT IN MONTANA THE OTHER I GOT FROM A BREEDER I CANT FIND THE BREEDER ANYMORE IT SUCKS I REALLY WANT MORE AND CANT FIND IF YOU ARE WILLING TO PART SINCE YOU DONT WANT THEM ANY WAY GIVE THEM TO SOMBODY LIKE ME I WILL GIVE THEM A GOOD HOME AND I WILL PAY FOR SHIPPING . PLEASE HELP ME I REALLY WANT MORE.REPLY IF YOU GOT THE HEART THINK ABOUT THE FISH MAN , THEY COULD BE WITH SOMBODY THAT WOULD
jekylcharles
03-19-2009, 3:53 AM
LOOKEN TO DONATE THEM FOR A CHARITABLE FUND?, I LIVE IN WASHINGTON IT IS ILLEGAL TO SELL BUT NOT TO DONATE OR HAVE. AN ALL THE PETSTORES DO NOT HAVE, I HAD TWO REDBELLYS ONE I HAD WHEN IT WAS JUST A BABY AN THE OTHER WHEN IT WAS 6 MONTHS OLD THE ONE I GOT IN MONTANA THE OTHER I GOT FROM A BREEDER I CANT FIND THE BREEDER ANYMORE IT SUCKS I REALLY WANT MORE AND CANT FIND. IF YOU ARE WILLING TO PART SINCE YOU DONT WANT THEM ANY WAY GIVE THEM TO SOMBODY LIKE ME I WILL GIVE THEM A GOOD HOME AND I WILL PAY FOR SHIPPING . PLEASE HELP ME I REALLY WANT MORE.REPLY IF YOU GOT THE HEART THINK ABOUT THE FISH ,MAN , THEY COULD BE WITH SOMBODY THAT WOULD
give the the best years of thier fishy lives im not just sellin bull**** im serious i would give them a great home its up to you, the unhappy owner to not endure another minute its just like a relationship if your unhappy its not fair to them to live this way when im lonely fish lover have nothing when you could make a buck an find a road to happyness and for me to get to be happy too. an so the fish canto get a chance for a new life at happiness
i have 10 3inch pirayas in my tank... and i LOVE them...theyre a bit shy at times but as soon as the shrimp hits the bottom they massacre it! cant wait till they get bigger...
toland.zr
03-19-2009, 3:37 PM
I totally disagree, i think that they are extremely aggressive it depends on what you are feeding them, i use deer meat.
Diogenes
03-19-2009, 4:05 PM
I totally disagree, i think that they are extremely aggressive it depends on what you are feeding them, i use deer meat.
venison? seriously? How many white tail deer do you think there are roaming around the amazon? :screwy:
My dogs eat spinach when it hits the floor, does that mean I should feed them spinach?
I'll tell you guys what. How 'bout we put a 14" snakehead in the tank with all these bad ass piranhas and then see who's aggressive.
Armand
03-19-2009, 6:57 PM
Do u guys buy piranhas to show off for your friends or what?! And before you buy a fish, find INFORMATION about it before you buy it so you wont be disapointed. I think that the reason that your piranhas isnt so agressive as you wish it would be, is that it is very hard to simulate their natural environment. For example they should be in a shoal of at least 100 or more individuals. Thats impossible to do at home. But if u have like 10 piranhas, provide them with hidingplaces and just handle them right they will not be as shy as yours are.
If u buy a piranha for "showing-off" I would recommend u to think again. In my opinion it´s the hunger that is making them agressive, they dont kill for fun.
I dissagree. The first time i kept piranhas i begun with 2 reds. i used to feed them gold fish and then I decided to give them 100 2" ot 2.5" goldfish so when they felt hungry just went an fed having in mind not to throw them more food for, maybe a week....they lasted one day. the reds used to kill just for the sake of it at the end i had to retire all the half eaten remains of the poor fish.
Chees.
cepon3
03-19-2009, 7:26 PM
To the OP..
Why would you come into a forum and insult the fish that everyone in this area keeps..
thats got to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard of.. And i do believe you must have been looking to start arguments..
I wont comment on anything else except.. give me your biggest baddest fish.. say 15" and smaller and i will feed him to my 9" brandtii.. Thats right.. i said feed him to my fish.. I make very bold statements and have all the knowledge to back it up.. The debate on whether or not piranhas kill for fun obviously has 1 party that havent even had any sort of piranha.. Like cichlids serras will attack other fish then enter their territory, so what is your definition of the world fun?
Armand
03-19-2009, 7:58 PM
Saying piranhas are overrated would equal saying lions are overrated.
The male lion does nothing he ain't a ferocious hunter who has the job done is the female, moreover lions like to steal the preys of other predators....
When you see the lion eating a buffalo and a bunch of hienas near by it is because the lion took their prey away... pretty far from the holywood image of the "king of the jungle" ain't it?.
If talking about who wins a match a rihno or an elefant could kick the **** out of any lion don't you think?, despite lion is the "King of the Jungle".....
You have to get informed firts. maybe piranhas are not the meanest predatory fish of them all but it doesnt mean they are not a ferocious spicies and potentially dangerous even to humans.
I wouldnt change my pygo shoal for any other fish and if given tha case It would be a wolf fish, this fellow could kick the **** out of any snakehead or any cychlid for sure but Ii am not keeping piranhas just to show off saying i keep the meanest bloodthisty fish of them all....
Cheers.
hot_boi07
03-23-2009, 11:28 AM
try the elongatus
it will kill everthing in your fish tank
i bite my filter and heater like crazy
need a new on though
lol
cepon3
03-24-2009, 11:32 AM
try the elongatus
it will kill everthing in your fish tank
i bite my filter and heater like crazy
need a new on though
lol
lmfaooooo
That is the most interesting thing i have seen any one say before
riley699
03-24-2009, 7:51 PM
most ofd my fish wich right now my 4 inch oscar is my biggest they all will stare me down until i look at them cross eyed the only ones that dont usually swim away is the oscar and the 3 inch texas lol