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MaJiKTeRRoR
09-17-2005, 9:32 AM
I have one front with what looks like a wart on the back of him right before his tail fin. Then there is another one that has a white ring on the side of his face and now it has formed on the other side.... Please help
spryandspringy
09-17-2005, 10:50 AM
Sounds like fungus. Do you have any pictures?
MaJiKTeRRoR
09-17-2005, 11:23 AM
Sounds like fungus. Do you have any pictures?
I'll take them tonight and post'em if I can. I'm freaking out because they are a couple of years old and I planned on breeding them. They go for 35 bucks or more at 1 to 1 1/2 inches out here.
Pics would help a lot, there are several things that can cause raised growths, some are easy to cure but different causes require different treatments.
MaJiKTeRRoR
09-17-2005, 8:34 PM
Pics would help a lot, there are several things that can cause raised growths, some are easy to cure but different causes require different treatments.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/Frontosa11.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/Frontosa11.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/Frontosa2.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/Frontosa2.jpg)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/Frontosa3.jpg (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=2/Frontosa3.jpg)
The other female that had the wart looking one on it's tail is going away. I'm still clueless to what it is.
spryandspringy
09-17-2005, 9:38 PM
Those look more like indentations than warts. If they weren't on the tail they'd almost look like hole-in-the-head. If there's nothing in the tank taking a bite out of them, I'd try a good, general-purpose fungicide. Fronties are one of my favorites. I hope you're able to help these guys.
Anyone else have two cents to add?
guppy
09-17-2005, 10:44 PM
After looking at the pics I don't think it is hith but maybe, it could be dermocystidium or a bacterial lesion. I'm hoping someone will speak up on hith as I don't have much experience with it. All of these benefit from improve tank hygiene and a more varied diet as vitamin deficiencies can lower resistances, esp. in the case of dermocyystidium.
All can lead to fungus infections so heat and salt as for ich for 14 days probably won't hurt and watch closely for a fuzzy appearence on the lesions, if you see that start use a fungicide after reading the instructions for interactions with salt. Remove any charcoal from your filter system now. it can aggravate hith and negate any mads you use.
There is no cure for dermacystidium but it goes away on it's own. With out a rigid program of tank cleaning an d standard water changes it often comes back and can lead to the bacterial lesions I am about to talk about.
Several years ago I had angel fish come down with open whitish sores, I found an old treatment for them and it worked. Several modern sites still describe it and it won't do any further hurt to fungal infected fish or those with dermocystidium,
the pic is a fish with bad bacterial ulcers, it lived. the pic is from a british site called fish doc.
Prepare a dip tank of clean dechlorinated water, 2 liters will do, bring it to the same temp. as your tank and add an air stone add 20mg.of pottassium permanganate (for 2 liters) purchased from your lfs or pharmacy. Place the affected fish in it for 15-20 minutes then put them back in your tank, repeat this once a week for three weeks even if it clears up sooner.
In the mean time add an antibiotic such as oxytetracycline to the fishes food at what ever ratio (usually 1%) called for on the bottle and feed with that for 10 days.
the ulcers should be well on there way to healing by the time the treatment is over.
On the up side it does not look like tuberculosis.
MaJiKTeRRoR
09-20-2005, 4:17 PM
The female that had one on the tail doesn't have it anymore looks like it is healing. I used Parasite Clear on Friday last week. I planned on using it again this Friday and the next. It seems to be working. If that doesn't work than should I try the Fungus stuff?
Read the label first or email the maker to check for med interactions
with the other stuff.
frontosa_man
09-20-2005, 11:27 PM
hole in the head; small holes appear, usually in the region of the head, although they can occur near the lateral lines or on the bases of the fins. these gradually enlarge and increase, eventually emitting a yellowish mucus that trails through the water.
MaJiKTeRRoR
09-21-2005, 9:56 PM
It's not hole in the head. I've had a fish with that and it looks nothing like it. These protrude of the scales.
Did you know that fish can get actual viral warts? They don't go away though.
Since at least one patch has healed on it's own I am still leanind towards dermacystidium for which I have seen no cure listed anywhere. It does not kill but can lead to secondry infections. While there is no cure it does go away on it's own.
I think of it like the fish version of herpes.