View Full Version : 4000gl large enough for one pima?
wright4lfe
04-15-2007, 1:25 PM
monster fish keepers-
in the next 1-2 years i am going to be investing in one of these in the 4000gl setup:
http://www.aquaculturetanks.com/brochure8.htm
at 4000gl it looks to be big enough to house most any fw fish, but i would like to run either a large pima or 7-10 silver aro's as the main attraction. for our pima experts here, could a 4000gl tank house a full grown pima for its entire life?
Zoodiver
04-15-2007, 2:50 PM
Simply put: No. Think 30-50 thousand gallons.
But you could do the group of arowana......I think that would look amazing!
wright4lfe
04-16-2007, 2:20 PM
thanks for the honest input. 10 aro's, 5-10 oscars and a few different cats are the plan. i really wanted a pima, but i'm not going to get in over my head.
Honda12
04-16-2007, 2:38 PM
I have mixed feelings when It comes to something like this. I do agree with zoodiver, that an enormous tank would be optimal.
But a 4000gl tank is a lot better than what most pimas end up in, and in a tank like you were showing, one would have a much happier life and fate, then how most end up.
It is kind of frustateing cause in one sense, you a saveing a pima from a store, and in most cases a slow demise. But in doing so, you are also creating a demand for a fish that in most cases can't be housed properly. Wheter or not you get one though, they will still wind up in pet stores.
I really think they are one fish that should should stay in the wild, but at this point in time they are still going to be imported. Would I love to have one; yes. But I don't feel that I could ever house one in a tank that would be appropriate, at least at this point in my life.
IMO it is really up to you and no one else whether or not you get one.
Zoodiver
04-17-2007, 3:11 PM
A tank the size of the ones shown will hold the fish for maybe up to two years. Another thing to think about is arapaima are known jumpers. You'd need to consider that factor in this as well. Where are you located? I assume somewhere warm enough to keep them outside all year.
johnptc
04-17-2007, 6:07 PM
monster fish keepers-
in the next 1-2 years i am going to be investing in one of these in the 4000gl setup:
http://www.aquaculturetanks.com/brochure8.htm
at 4000gl it looks to be big enough to house most any fw fish, but i would like to run either a large pima or 7-10 silver aro's as the main attraction. for our pima experts here, could a 4000gl tank house a full grown pima for its entire life?
its not all in the gallons...........a large round pond/pool would be better
see p24s http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/6313/cid/1765
you could do a lot worse......
wright4lfe
04-17-2007, 9:15 PM
i wouldn't have space for that size john, plus, it would need to go in the ground.
oh well, it was just a thought. i think the 10 aro's will look pretty good.
johnptc
04-17-2007, 9:17 PM
i wouldn't have space for that size john, plus, it would need to go in the ground.
oh well, it was just a thought. i think the 10 aro's will look pretty good.
10 or 20 :D :D
Zoodiver
04-18-2007, 11:31 AM
Go 20!
wright4lfe
04-18-2007, 11:40 AM
20 aro's in a 4000gl is ok? i also want to throw in a few oscars and other SA cichlids in. and maybe one or two big cats. and by cats i mean actual felines...lol
santoury
04-18-2007, 11:52 AM
Holy cow! What do these bad boys cost?
Do they come with pumps, or are those tubes just tubes?
AllGo'n'Show
04-18-2007, 12:33 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, quick google search led to no help.
What's a pima?
unknownuza13
04-18-2007, 12:36 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, quick google search led to no help.
What's a pima?
Google: Arapaima Gigas
bmxer4ever
04-22-2007, 6:15 AM
Or for a more fun approach, have a look at this thread....it's in the same section as this..
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35218
VVateverzYo
04-26-2007, 11:03 AM
the aros are also jumpers so get ready for them......
wright4lfe
04-26-2007, 12:27 PM
i plan on designing the landscaping around the pond to simulate their natural environment so i plan on having low hanging branchs over the pond. when insects land on the branchs....bam, like were in the amazon...
killerfish
04-28-2007, 9:45 PM
i plan on designing the landscaping around the pond to simulate their natural environment so i plan on having low hanging branchs over the pond. when insects land on the branchs....bam, like were in the amazon...
that would be awsome mabye take care of any birds to but that could be bad what if thay miss you may come home to a few sun baked aros
just make high walls around the pond.
that would be awsome mabye take care of any birds to but that could be bad what if thay miss you may come home to a few sun baked aros
I was thinking that too, but it would be really cool.
Crustman
05-26-2007, 8:21 AM
Cool and put in a plexiglass veiwport and dig a underground tunnel to veiw your fish. :D
Opiate
06-09-2007, 10:52 PM
haha
parker21104
07-10-2007, 6:31 PM
Out of curioutsity have you called an received a price on that tank/pond?
frasertheking
07-10-2007, 6:38 PM
might be cheaper to build it yourself like a big koi pond and you can make it nice and deep and add a window that would be cool
benzjamin13
07-10-2007, 9:39 PM
A 4000g pond might work, but it depends on the dimensions of the pond. I'd say 36'x15'12' would be the BARE MINIMUM for those fish. Which is about 5000g.
AliceInChains
07-13-2007, 10:32 AM
yeah i agree. thats alot better than where most pimas go
fishloverblake
08-17-2007, 1:45 PM
that tank would be fine
skylar69
08-17-2007, 6:39 PM
dude i say go 4 it, if u buy 1 and put it in ur 4000 gallon pond ur saving that same 1 from going into a 700 gallon tank
pirarucu319
10-01-2007, 3:16 PM
its not all in the gallons...........a large round pond/pool would be better
you could do a lot worse......
yup..paiche like to swim around and relax after 'feast'..
ANCIENT MONSTER RULEZ :arapaimag:asianarow
rcarbonell
10-03-2007, 6:33 AM
Cool and put in a plexiglass veiwport and dig a underground tunnel to veiw your fish. :D
Yep 2 viewports would be cool! Check this diagram out!
10 aro's, 10 ornati birchirs, and 3 stingray! would do the trick!
GOOD LUCK! Just in case your from the philippines i'd be happy to help you with the waterproofing equipments!!
:headbang2
Freke
11-24-2007, 12:24 PM
Nice fish u got there is that a silver aro ?? lool And the landscape with the tree. Its almost like in the wild =) I wish i could build outdoor ponds to. But if i do that i might be able to use it as a hockey rink during winter... Damn cold winters up here..
richman
12-30-2008, 5:09 PM
monster fish keepers-
in the next 1-2 years i am going to be investing in one of these in the 4000gl setup:
http://www.aquaculturetanks.com/brochure8.htm
at 4000gl it looks to be big enough to house most any fw fish, but i would like to run either a large pima or 7-10 silver aro's as the main attraction. for our pima experts here, could a 4000gl tank house a full grown pima for its entire life?
Hi,
Can you tell me where you got that info from. Maybe a web site.
pounder
12-30-2008, 5:57 PM
screw the landscaping just get this 1:D
artemis1
12-30-2008, 6:01 PM
update?