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rumblesushi
09-19-2005, 8:36 AM
In noticed in another thread you said Peacocks are hard to keep, could you expand on why?

I'm curious because I have NEVER seen them in this country, yet a place about 20 miles from me is getting some babies in this week and I'm thinking of buying 1 or 2.

I thought they would be hardy and easy to take care of like most predatory cichlids.

Cheers,
JR

DIESELMACK
09-19-2005, 9:56 PM
The reason for saying that is young pbass are fragile and contract ich rather easily...which for young pbass can be fatal. Once they are past the 5" mark they get pretty tuff. One key is keeping youngins at a temp of 82-84*F and I have even kept them around a steady 86*-remember that in the wild youngin pbass stay to the shallows which in south american waters is quite warm in temperature. If you nip the ich issues and keep them unstressed and well fed you should have no problems with them....but alot of people have problems and give up on them altogether before they can really experience cichla in full force....once you keep them and witness the lightning fast water blowing eating machines....you'll never turn back :grinno:
Keep the temp up and keep em growing fast untill they are putting good size on and you'll be fine........good luck and let me know how it goes....cant get enough pbass pics ya know :D

rumblesushi
09-20-2005, 3:03 AM
Thanks for the replay.

I think I'll keep a divider in my wolf tank, which is about 84 degrees and has some salt in it.

Just make sure the divider is very secure :D

Then I'll try mixing them once they've settled and grown a bit.

The guy said the ones they'll be getting will be around the 2/3 inch mark. What should I feed them other than hikari colour enhancing pellets at this size, and how quickly should they grow? :)

Cheers,
JR

Peanut_Power
09-20-2005, 3:44 AM
They are indeed fragile little buggas at those small sizes. I think mine are finally passed that stage...seem to be gettin stronger and healthier! :D Startin to turn more golden as well! Love orinos! :D

toxicfish
09-20-2005, 4:11 AM
Yeah I have 2 left out of a total of 7 that I have bought

And those 2 have had ich for abt 2 weeks now. I keep the temp at abt 82-84 and have been using seachem to treat it . They still eat alot and dont seem sick but to white spots are there.

They are 2" and 3" in a 30g tank. Any idea's abt anything else I can do to help this???
I always do weekly 30% water changes. I feed them hikari brine shrimp.

rumblesushi
09-20-2005, 4:25 AM
I've only had an ich break out once.

one of my oscars got it, the next day I dissolved some salt in a bucket, put it all in at once, and turned the temp up to 85 degrees and kept it at that temp. It went in 2 days, every spot gone. And none of the other fish caught it.

I never use meds.

DIESELMACK
09-20-2005, 7:00 AM
for the ich problem bump your temp to 86*F and if you can get ahold of it get "quick cure" in a tiny lil bottle....dose for a week even if spots disappear.
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if they are eating food other than live.....at that size I would be feeding plankton and beefheart to get some size on them...personally I bulk feed with live feeders untill the bass are approx 5-6" then ween them to krill ect,,,you should expect a solid 1" per month-possibly more of growth :grinyes:

rumblesushi
09-20-2005, 7:10 AM
unfortunately feeders here are not sold as feeders, so they cost almost 3 dollars each for a goldfish or platy or something.

It'll have to be beefheart and mp

w3arB3aR
09-20-2005, 7:37 AM
what 3 dollars for feeders? why dont you just breed feeders and sell them goldfish can produce lots of fry hehe

rumblesushi
09-20-2005, 8:45 AM
I want to do that, it's the only option really. I don't have the tank space right now but hopefully I will soon.

Copeina
09-20-2005, 12:22 PM
Our wild-caught shipments of larger individuals (5-10") will occasionally have intestinal worms. It is usually a fatal condition by the time they arrive. Watch for worms protruding from the anus of the fish and immediately treat it with whatever deworming meds available to you.

The worms seem to be spread only through consumption, so isolation of the infected individual can usually save the rest.

Once they are settled in, they are great fish and generally hardy.

Good luck!
/Kris

mjuniorc
11-06-2007, 5:35 PM
this one is a bit old.... but for all the newcomers... here is some good info!!!;)

Opiate
11-09-2007, 11:51 PM
aww yea another soon to be cichla owner!! u'll love em rumble, my 3 lil tems devour 30 barbs in a matter of mins!! great fish! make sure u post pics as soon as u get em! :thumbsup:

soggysandwich
11-10-2007, 1:06 PM
The reason for saying that is young pbass are fragile and contract ich rather easily...which for young pbass can be fatal. Once they are past the 5" mark they get pretty tuff. One key is keeping youngins at a temp of 82-84*F and I have even kept them around a steady 86*-remember that in the wild youngin pbass stay to the shallows which in south american waters is quite warm in temperature. If you nip the ich issues and keep them unstressed and well fed you should have no problems with them....but alot of people have problems and give up on them altogether before they can really experience cichla in full force....once you keep them and witness the lightning fast water blowing eating machines....you'll never turn back :grinno:
Keep the temp up and keep em growing fast untill they are putting good size on and you'll be fine........good luck and let me know how it goes....cant get enough pbass pics ya know :D

you better believe it. just yesterday i was testing my water, and i put the glass tube into my tank and my pbass ripped it of my hand

DIESELMACK
11-11-2007, 4:49 PM
here is an update of what the fry from my recent orinocensis breeding looks like now:
starting to look more like cichla now :)

Tongue33
11-12-2007, 12:03 AM
:D Beautiful!!!

Perch Jerker
11-12-2007, 1:20 AM
how did you breed those orino's? any secrets? i have been trying to breed my mono's, they have made a nest but that's it.

mjuniorc
11-12-2007, 12:54 PM
they look good brotha... very good update....


-dmack-

Cdog
11-12-2007, 1:04 PM
I only wish I could get some here. I've only seen them on the fishing shows and pictures. Good luck and great info. Cdog

johnptc
11-12-2007, 1:17 PM
nice fry mack !!

cichlaguapote
11-12-2007, 1:47 PM
Great update and congrats!! It should feel good knowing years down the road there are orinos getting around because you're the man who bred them! very nice..