6 inch Jardini with my 4.5 inch channa? :D

[rumblesushi]

I know i said before I was thinking of putting a jardini with my wolf, well now I'm thinking of a jardini with my little killer 4.5 inch channa :D As my wolf is over 8 inches and I'm thinking of selling him anyway.

So - my little channa is 4.5 inches now. I got him when he was 3.5. Pretty sure it's micropeltes or maybe striata.

So far he has killed a spotted gar, a hujeta, a few medium sized tetras, a big goldfish, probably heavier than him.

He has no qualms about attacking fish bigger than him.

At the moment he is in with a raphael catfish, a convict, and a texas cichlid. All smaller than him. He leaves the catfish alone completely, they hang out together at night.

He constantly chases the texas and the convict, they don't fight back, just swim away - but as of now they are unscathed. I'm not sure why exactly, either because he's not that intent on killing them, or they're quicker than the other fish.

So a 6 inch jardini? It's bigger than him, deeper bodied too. At 6 inches is a jardini brave or aggressive enough to defend itself against a very aggressive little snakehead? Or are they the kinda fish that are placid, then suddenly turn when approach a foot?

In the store it's in with some discus and 2 inch gouramis, and they seem to get on fine, so it can't be very aggressive at the moment.

I just wonder what will happen when the channa inevitably attacks it.

I was thinking of putting a divider up, letting the jardini settle in, then removing the divider.

[rumblesushi]

I know you all vouch for the jardini as being a bad boy, but honestly - if they didn't get on my money would be on the SH.

The SH killed the Spotted gar I bought him with in 2 days of being put in the tank. Then I bought more fish to put in with it. 4 medium sized tetras, deep bodied ones, that I thought would be much too big to eat, and he munched them all in a couple of days.

I put in 2 big goldfish, as big as him. He terrorized both of them, the one that was left had almost no scales and no fins, and cuts all over it. He would just float up to the top, pretend to gulp air, then relentlessly launch himself at it.

I put in a similar sized hujeta, and the SH actually took a chunk out of it's back and killed it.

Yet somehow a 2 inch convict and 3 inch texas are still fine and unscathed.

Oh and I put in a 6 inch fat sleeper goby, about 5 times fatter than the SH, as soon as I dropped it in, the snakehead just swim right upto it, face to face, to intimidate it, the goby didn't move, so the channa bit it on the head. It's got some balls I swear.

I really want this aro, it's at a decent price, but I just hope it can withstand the fury of my little channa.

[sgland]

Just do it! :D

[rumblesushi]

:D

Do you think I should plonk him in right away, or wait until he's settled in the tank with the aid of a divider?

[flowerfan]

if your jadini bigger than sh, it should work. Jafini can be agressive, he might dominate your tank.

[rumblesushi]

so I hear, but aint nothin gonna dominate my channa. I'm more worried about the jardini.

[rumblesushi]

Oh btw - are jardini's hardy?

The fish I own already are hardy, wolf, snakehead, oscars.

I keep the fish very clean, change water once or twice a week, the water is always fine.

But I think even with dirty water or lack of oxygen, wolves and snakeheads are gonna be oke, they are tough fish.

What about jardinis? Do they have a rep for being sensitive or hardy?

[Monster VooDoo Fish]

cripple fight, someones going to get a flogging.

Wolf and sh can breath air so they are hardy.
If your power goes out oscar and jardi will be in
trouble.

I would give your striata its own tank they are aggro..

[rumblesushi]

monster - what makes you think it's a striata rather than a micro? :)

And being that you have a striata - how aggressive do you think they are compared to micropeltes?

JR

[rweedon]

dude it sounds as if you have made up your mind... now ask yourself what if your jardini dies ok you are out a pretty cool fish... I say do whatever you want I think the SH will kill the Jardini but that is just me...

[sgland]

:D

Do you think I should plonk him in right away, or wait until he's settled in the tank with the aid of a divider?
Given me, i would use a divider. But remember nothing for sure with sh, especially micropeltes. Take it slow with room for both for adjustments and it may work out fine. But no guarantees, one may decide to take out the other one day.

[rumblesushi]

I might just try it for a while, I like the jardini a lot, it's not just a test for my channa. It's costing a lot more than the channa too.

Thing is, my channa is a VICIOUS little bastard, but he is little. So he would not be able to kill the aro outright. The SH is pushing 5 inches, and is much fatter than when I got him, but still relatively slim.

The jardini is at least 6 inches and I'm sure weighs a fair bit more.

The little channa has killed a fair few fish the same size as him, though for some reason the convict and texas are still alive and well in there. He chases them around but they are smart enough to keep running until he stops.

If he terrorizes the jardini and it looks like the jardini can't handle it I'll put a divider up, then cycle a new tank for the aro. I don't want either fish to die, I like them both a lot, and it would be cool if they lived together for a while.

I'm getting it tomorrow morning but I'm undecided of whether to introduce the aro immediately, or put him in a divided section until he's settled in, and not stressed from the move, then remove the divider.

It may be fine putting him right away, but I'm worried that it might be a bit much after transporting him if the first thing he is faced with is a pugnacious little channa in his face.

[fishnthings]

i had a 7inch jardini, the little ******* wasnt mean at all, he was beat up, and torn in half by two little 2inch texans. the jardini was perfectly healthy and all. If it were i who got a jardini again, i def wouldnt risk such a beautiful fish with a sh. but your prob alot more experienced than me, so im sure you know what to do

[rumblesushi]

jesus - it got killed by 2 inch texans? I have a 3 inch texas with my sh.

[rumblesushi]

I got the jardini today, and low and behold the channa is scared of it.

The texas is scared of it too. The only thing that's not scared of it is the convict, which nipped it's tail a couple of times. I don't think I'm gonna tolerate this little convict nipping my pretty jardini so I think it's gonna have to be wolf food.

I got a little peacock bass too.

[rumblesushi]

it's funny how unpredictable fish are.

In the store they had 3 jardini's. The one I chose was the biggest and prettiest, had the best colour. The others were pale.

It was pretty inactive though in a small tank, just sitting there with a discus and a pleco.

They were also keeping it in RO water, so I figured the shock of putting in hard tap water would take it a week or 2 to adapt.

But no, it's active and aggressive, and it's already eaten quite a lot within 2 hours of it being in the tank.

And it's now started to chase and nip the convict and texas.

And my badass little channa that feared nothing is hiding behind the filter, he has shown no aggression at all to the jardini.

The jardini is probably about 6.5 inches and hasn't filled out much yet. My channa is bigger than I thought, he's grown loads, he's around 5.5 inches.

[fishnthings]

wow, im suprised. good luck with this, i just have a bad feeling the sh will get tired of em, and teach the jardini a lesson,
and yes 2 2"texans literaly tore the jardini in half, i was pissed. i kept the texans tho, i figured two little fish like that must be hard @sses

[rumblesushi]

the jardini has bitten the texas twice, taken some scales off. The texas is scared. For some reason the convict is less scared but he;s been nipped too.

I setup a divider for a tiny little 2.5 inch peacock bass I bought at the same time, but he's so skinny he slipped through the divider. There's nothing I can do. Just hope for the best.

Luckily they seem to have left him alone so far.

It's weird the channa is scared and hiding. When I put that fat goby in that was bigger than the jar - the channa went straight up to it and when it didn't move, the channa bit it.

[sgland]

Glad it work out. :thumbsup:

[fishnthings]

Glad it work out. :thumbsup:
dont count the chickens until they hatch........just be cautious, jardinis are precious, but mine wasnt aggressive, i understand all are different and they have their own personalities, sounds like youve got a bad @ss
:headbang2

[rumblesushi]

I talked too soon. Just like I thought the channa is f##king badass. A couple of days after putting the jardini in, and the channa being nervous and hiding, he suddenly came to life and started chasing the bigger jardini around and took a couple of chunks out of his tail. The jardini did not fight back.

My channa is a furious little fish. He has a grudge against anything that lives.

I put them in seperate tanks now. It will be fun as my little channa grows to see if anything is capable of living with it.

Any suggestions? :D

[IoStrisciare]

I talked too soon. Just like I thought the channa is f##king badass. A couple of days after putting the jardini in, and the channa being nervous and hiding, he suddenly came to life and started chasing the bigger jardini around and took a couple of chunks out of his tail. The jardini did not fight back.

My channa is a furious little fish. He has a grudge against anything that lives.

I put them in seperate tanks now. It will be fun as my little channa grows to see if anything is capable of living with it.

Any suggestions? :D
a pike cichlid?

[rumblesushi]

surely not? I've never seen much evidence of them being tough killers. I've seen them in with much smaller fish showing no aggression. This channa was bullying a convict, a texas and a jardini at the same time.

I'm no expert on pike cichlids, but they don't look like they'd be able to stand up to a particularly vicious snakehead.

[IoStrisciare]

surely not? I've never seen much evidence of them being tough killers. I've seen them in with much smaller fish showing no aggression. This channa was bullying a convict, a texas and a jardini at the same time.

I'm no expert on pike cichlids, but they don't look like they'd be able to stand up to a particularly vicious snakehead.
cobra pikes are very aggressive. My 4 incher is trying to get at my 12inch aros... seperated it for its own safety.