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Kieranuk
05-07-2005, 5:19 AM
I am new to large fish keeping and was wondering if I could get some advice :). I currently have a 180L juwel aquarium with various pleco's , parrot fish, clown loaches, angelfish and a quite a few more different one's. I saw a oscar the other day and decided to start keeping larger fish. I will be getting a 450L (100G) tank in about a month or two and was wondering if you could reccomend and good large fish. I would prefer a large community set-up instead of a species tank. Do you know if fire wood catfish are okey as I like them. I also like stingray's , arowana's (blue), dragon fish, red tailed cat's and tiger oscars. Would I be okey with those fish or would I be better off with some different ones? I am new to this so have no idea how many I can get. Also are they any snakehead species which can be mixed okey with larger fish and do not require a species tank.
Thanks,
Kieran
WckedMidas
05-07-2005, 6:42 PM
:welcome: :newbie: post some pics dude and very wellcome to the site
piranha45
05-07-2005, 7:06 PM
For big fish like oscars and large catfish, a 100g isnt nearly as big as you would like to think it is...
stay away from arrowana and red tail catfish. these fish get 3-4 feet long and need something more in the 240g-500g range.
Stingrays require 50%+ weekly waterchanges. Or they will quickly collapse and die.
If you can keep up the waterchange, an oscar, a ray, a pictus/synodontis catfish and a school of silver dollars would work in a 100g.
Kieranuk
05-07-2005, 7:56 PM
I will try and get some pics posted. Where do I go for a tank the size I need as Juwel tanks only go up to 450L max?
piranha45
05-07-2005, 7:58 PM
http://www.glasscages.com is the cheapest and generally best place to purchase aquariums from.
Kieranuk
05-07-2005, 8:08 PM
Thanks but I need a supplier from the UK. Could I keep a small arowana and red tailed cat for awhyle then sell it on when it gets too big or will it outgrow my tank quick? I would like a 800G tank but theres not really anywhere it could go where it would look okey.
piranha45
05-07-2005, 8:09 PM
you could keep a 3" specimen in there for a couple months if you wanted, yeah
Kieranuk
05-07-2005, 8:18 PM
I wouldnt mind the big water changes as I can syphon it out into the sink and fill it back up with buckets. Would I be restricted to what sort of ray I could get?
RTairgun
05-07-2005, 8:50 PM
you could keep a 3" specimen in there for a couple months if you wanted, yeah
wow... arowanas grow that fast? that about crushes my hopes of ever having one... till i hit the lottery or something
RTairgun
05-07-2005, 8:52 PM
oops btw... :welcome: Kieranuk! When you get those big tanks post some pics so I have more to drool over
piranha45
05-08-2005, 12:34 AM
nah, i was moreso addressing RTCs than arrows. RTCs take on 2-4" every month. Silver arrows only go about 1-1.5" a month. You could keep a silver arrow in there for about a year, year and a half if you really want to press it.
Kieranuk
05-08-2005, 4:10 AM
If it wasnt fair to the aro I probably wouldnt keep one. Would that black ray with white spots in the gallery be ok? I read somewhere that you can teach the big fish to do tricks is this true? I am going to get the 100G then when I know more about it upgrade to a 300G-500G but this will probably be in 1-2 years. I will post some pic's of my tank when I get it but it might be a couple of months at most.
piranha45
05-08-2005, 12:03 PM
you can teach cichlids to do tricks. You wouldnt get any tricks out of an arrow. A ray would work, but as Ive said many times before, you must do at least a 50% water change every week or it will die on you. Rays are expensive anyway.
Kieranuk
05-08-2005, 1:54 PM
Would I be okey keep oscar's? Also when you said large cichlid's what did you mean, things like flowerhorn ect?
piranha45
05-08-2005, 1:57 PM
Large cichlids = oscar, flowherhorn, red devil/midas, managuense, salvini, redbelly pike, those sort of cichlids.
you could get 1 large cichid, and then some smaller tankmates to go in with it, in a 100g.
rayman45
05-08-2005, 2:06 PM
:welcome:
piranha45
05-08-2005, 2:15 PM
stfu
rayman45
05-08-2005, 2:18 PM
hey u got 1000 posts congrads
Kieranuk
05-08-2005, 2:22 PM
Could I get a Male and female of the large ones and which smaller cichlids would I get to live with them?
piranha45
05-08-2005, 2:29 PM
4-5 african cichlids, of most any type -- Zebras, auratus, kenyii, scolofi, those sort of fish. Readily available at most LFSes.
Only africans you want to stay away from are Nimbochromis (get too big) and Tropheus (require special plant-only diet) species.
here's a good list of common africans
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/species_profiles.php
rayman45
05-08-2005, 2:33 PM
african cichlids confuse me :uhoh:
Kieranuk
05-08-2005, 2:34 PM
I have in a 3ft tank a few of the smaller malawi cichlids to breed (4 pairs). Which large cichlid would you reccomend that I should get?
piranha45
05-08-2005, 2:36 PM
A midas/red devil (same fish), or an oscar. Those two fish are the most personable ones. Managuense look really pretty though, but aren't as personable.
I. D. Fernandes
04-30-2008, 6:53 AM
Hi there
here iam for the time i crazy for fishes i have a tank of 48 X 18 X18 with 22" 1 no. Arwana, 2 nos. 8" Alligater, 2 nos. 8" Sword fish
thanks
I. D. Fernandes
04-30-2008, 6:56 AM
Hi,
Can anyone help me to let me know how to preserve my 22" silver Arwana fish since it was very dear to me
Thanks
waiting for ur urgent reply