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rollerboy244
05-07-2005, 10:28 AM
I quickly read before heading off for work,that in May Scleropages leichardti are not going to be exported--does anyone know if this is just a close temporarilly-or has australia stopped them from exportation till further notice will this affect their value---i just got one for $250.00 canadian--that's like 50 cents US LOL

rayman45
05-07-2005, 10:32 AM
yea the price will go up
there like 80-150 i've seen them for

rayman45
05-07-2005, 10:34 AM
hope its not true
i had one, i sold it at around 10" to lfs for 2 sliver arowanas

M|L
05-07-2005, 9:12 PM
Australia has always been (as I heard) strict on all exports of animals, most of the Australian fishes sold are actually tank bred somewhere else in the world (mostly Asia).

rollerboy244
05-07-2005, 9:51 PM
i actually saw an add from an australian company that said they exported leichardti and other native fish---i know that reptiles and amphibians have been banned from export for quite a time in Australia specimens for sale are either from smuggling or zoo bred specimens i heard jardini which is native to both australia and new guinea are bred in ponds like asian arowanas in non native southeast asia

piranha45
05-07-2005, 10:58 PM
this sucks. when did you see this add, rollerboy?




...god i cant believe im calling some guy who's 10 years over the hill 'rollerboy' :(

neoprodigy
05-07-2005, 11:16 PM
this info is true... i got one coming b4 the banned!

piranha45
05-07-2005, 11:17 PM
but its May already!

neoprodigy
05-07-2005, 11:56 PM
havent shipped yet... it in the states.. :)

Steve_89
05-08-2005, 1:03 AM
Good stuff Neo. These are sweet fish to have!

rollerboy244
05-08-2005, 9:16 AM
i actually found out about ban on this site-in the rare fishes classified-fugupuff
the add about the exporter from australia i was just surfing can't remember---i can't get fish out of the states let along australia------
sorry for the nickname for such an old bastard i'll change it when i exchange my inline skates for a walker

piranha45
05-08-2005, 10:34 AM
lol :D

novafishy
05-10-2005, 9:01 AM
Hey guys,
I'm from Australia, and yes, the Saratoga Jardini and the Leichardti are both natives. Some are pond bred, but I think most are wildcaught in the Northern Region of Australia. Young are usually available during December to February. THey range from AU$80-150 for a 12-15cm fish. Jardinis usually fetch a higher price than the Leichardtis.

Silver arowanas here are around $500 for a 13cm fish. SO when you guys swap a 10" saratoga for TWO silver arowanas, I envy you guys.

THe quarantine and import laws here are one of the most strictest in the world.

Jason
05-10-2005, 4:26 PM
Yeah i admire them in some ways for the laws but damn it makes getting breeding populations out a real pain. I couldnt belive how much some people went nuts when i mentioned that could get gar from my LFS for 15-20 dollars US and from a wholesaler for about 1/4 that. Its odd how when something is native that you could care less about it and go half a world away and its gold.

I had someone from germany ask if i could ship him some pumpkin seed sunfish preferably a couple males in color. I use those to feed my snapping turtles.....i guess i never really noticed.

I think might have to make tank space for a couple arrows before the red tape buries them.

Jason

Ariel
05-12-2005, 12:25 PM
Hey guys,
I'm from Australia, and yes, the Saratoga Jardini and the Leichardti are both natives. Some are pond bred, but I think most are wildcaught in the Northern Region of Australia. Young are usually available during December to February. THey range from AU$80-150 for a 12-15cm fish. Jardinis usually fetch a higher price than the Leichardtis.

Silver arowanas here are around $500 for a 13cm fish. SO when you guys swap a 10" saratoga for TWO silver arowanas, I envy you guys.

THe quarantine and import laws here are one of the most strictest in the world.
Leichardtis is more expensive than Jardinis & silver aro in Singapore, eg a 2" silver only cost s$8 :p

kriztu
05-15-2005, 1:38 AM
maybe there's a hefty good reason for the ban, its either we abide by the rules or end up losing the species

rollerboy244
05-15-2005, 11:12 AM
hopefully this might help promote breeding outside of Australia of this species(as it did for the asian variety)From my searches though i don't find Scleropages leichardti to be much in demand--try finding good pictures or information about Leichardti.
I bought mine online--hoping i would be pleased--i was i could imagine the possibilities of selective breeding of this species with the orange to red inner scale spots mine has that greenish silver gleem it's certainly distinct from Scleropages jardini i find Leichardti reminds me somewhat of a trout at the size of my current arowana aprox. 5-6" jardini more typical arowana.