AUGUST 2007 Fishing in South Florida... - who is instrested ?

[neoprodigy]

im going to shoot for mid-end of aug.... who wanna go?

NOTE : you must be 21 and older... or you must bring your parent... i/we cant babysit...

[ZOO YORK 207]

I'm gunna go. Just tell me like a month ahead so I can get plane tickets.

Count PDN in.

[cichlaguapote]

Interested.. details? Certain hotel you guys stay at? possible to bring stuff back? Easy to get fishing gear on the plane? Every man for himself? lol

[robmcd]

Sounds cool. Are you gonna line it all up? If so Im down.

[milkman407]

im in.

[neoprodigy]

I'm gunna go. Just tell me like a month ahead so I can get plane tickets.

Count PDN in.
your pop gotta come..

[The TRUST]

Just to let people know that it will run you approx. $1000-$1500 per person depending on how long and where u stay.

[neoprodigy]

Interested.. details? Certain hotel you guys stay at? possible to bring stuff back? Easy to get fishing gear on the plane? Every man for himself? lol
we will find a hotel...

the only way to bring fish back is by cargo... delta cargo ... any big fish will not do well shipping...

you need a rod case...

[neoprodigy]

Just to let people know that it will run you approx. $1000-$1500 per person depending on how long and where u stay.
hotel is about 120 each night...

plane tix start at 150 round trip

car rental is about 80+ plus gas...

[cichlaguapote]

i/we cant babysit...

Seriously? What if I fall in? :(


Need a date but sounds like I'm down...

[The TRUST]

we will find a hotel...

the only way to bring fish back is by cargo... delta cargo ... any big fish will not do well shipping...

you need a rod case...

No Cichla will survive! So don't even think about bringing any cichla you catch. After hooking them just transporting them is enough to kill them.

If you plan to bring back fish the best bet for fish that can be shipped is Jags, Mayans, Midas and Tilipias.

Only reason I was able to bring some back was because:

1.) I am experienced in shipping and packing big fish
2.) The fish I took back were not freshly caught. They were given to me after being kept in tanks for a month or so.
3.) The fish I shipped back were only 10" and below. 95% of the Cichla you catch there is in the 12"+++ range. Bad bad bad shippers.

So do the Cichla a favor and catch and release them.

[The TRUST]

hotel is about 120 each night...

plane tix start at 150 round trip

car rental is about 80+ plus gas...


$120 depends where could run all the way to $200 per night

Tickets depends on where you fly in from and when. I flew in from WA and my ticket cost me $350.

[ZOO YORK 207]

your pop gotta come..

OK. Or my aunt.

[Superlaz]

SOunds good....I think Ill open a bed and breakfast for when you guys come down...lol, help fund the cichla feedings...lol.

[cichlaguapote]

No Cichla will survive! So don't even think about bringing any cichla you catch. After hooking them just transporting them is enough to kill them.

If you plan to bring back fish the best bet for fish that can be shipped is Jags, Mayans, Midas and Tilipias.

Only reason I was able to bring some back was because:

1.) I am experienced in shipping and packing big fish
2.) The fish I took back were not freshly caught. They were given to me after being kept in tanks for a month or so.
3.) The fish I shipped back were only 10" and below. 95% of the Cichla you catch there is in the 12"+++ range. Bad bad bad shippers.




Wow that sucks, might still go but was looking forward to some cichla coming back.

[The TRUST]

Cichla are more sensitive than you think.

Hell My friend here lost a cichla just being in a bag for 30 mins while he was moving stuff from tank to tank.

[cichlaguapote]

Hell My friend here lost a cichla just being in a bag for 30 mins while he was moving stuff from tank to tank.

Wow picky cichla. Never lost a cichla in a bag, and I've shipped before but I get what you're saying. Not to derail. Good info though. :)

[N-E Cichlids]

I'm Down

[varanio]

If you want cichla they MUST be in the 5-6 inch range if you even want any kind of success in shipping them. Aug sounds good for fishing ....but when isnt it in fl ....

[The TRUST]

If you want cichla they MUST be in the 5-6 inch range if you even want any kind of success in shipping them. Aug sounds good for fishing ....but when isnt it in fl ....

Yup that is correct 4-6" is the best size but harder to find.

[AnDr3w]

Is it nessisary that a parent come? Im kind of responsible. lol.

[varanio]

parents must accompany anyone that is 18 yrs or younger.... we will not be held responsible if you get bit by an alligator or poisonous snake.... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ... seriously though underage boys/gals must have a parent for supervision.

[The TRUST]

parents must accompany anyone that is 18 yrs or younger.... we will not be held responsible if you get bit by an alligator or poisonous snake.... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ... seriously though underage boys/gals must have a parent for supervision.


Nope Anyone below 21 must have a parent/guardian present.

18 is not enough since the consumption of alcohol may be involved with other members older than 21 and if other members who are present that are not 21 may pose an issue.

Anyone under 21 needs to bring a signed letter that is notraized.

[Eatsomekiwis]

Id imagine 18 would be the age requirement since that is recognized as the legal transition age from juvenile to adulthood so why wouldn't any persons under 21 be permitted to come? I mean I don't have a problem with it since I'll just drive down there on my own and meet up with you guys, then party it off somewhere haha.

[The TRUST]

Id imagine 18 would be the age requirement since that is recognized as the legal transition age from juvenile to adulthood so why wouldn't any persons under 21 be permitted to come? I mean I don't have a problem with it since I'll just drive down there on my own and meet up with you guys, then party it off somewhere haha.


It's more to cover asses with the way people are these days and all the lawsuits. No offense to anyone underage really but assess need to be covered.

[Eatsomekiwis]

It's more to cover asses with the way people are these days and all the lawsuits. No offense to anyone underage really but assess need to be covered.

Non Liability waivers

[The TRUST]

Non Liability waivers

Any lawyers here that can write out something like this?

[Eatsomekiwis]

Any lawyers here that can write out something like this?

I'm sure you can find one, but members young and old should all sign one, it would make sure no one is held responsible in case anything were to happen

[AnDr3w]

Nope Anyone below 21 must have a parent/guardian present.

18 is not enough since the consumption of alcohol may be involved with other members older than 21 and if other members who are present that are not 21 may pose an issue.

Anyone under 21 needs to bring a signed letter that is notraized.

So wait that means you can go if your under 21 without a parent if they sign a waiver? Or did I just read this wrong?

[varanio]

Jed 18 is the legal age.......if you decide to make it 21 then it would be considered discrimination, if you wanted to get into the legality of it all. You dont need to have a lawyer to have a legal binding contract. Just the descritpion and any stipulations would have to be expressed on the paper.....IE we will not be responsible this and that mumbo jumbo. They will sign it and they will be held responsible for their actions, which would in turn alleviate the members that will be there from all responsibility. Anyone under 18 will however need a guardian because juvenile laws are different then after 18. I dont think it will be such an issue. If youre 18 and want to come sure go ahead, but youll need your own transportation as we will not able to provide a carpool service for everyone. You will be responsible for your actions whether you were out with us as a group or individually and you will sign a waiver of all liability when you get there simple as that.

[AnDr3w]

How can I get my mom to say yes. She is saying No because she doesnt know anyone on here and she is saying no even if my dad comes. Anyone got any ideas?

[The TRUST]

How can I get my mom to say yes. She is saying No because she doesnt know anyone on here and she is saying no even if my dad comes. Anyone got any ideas?

How old are u?

[The TRUST]

I just checked your profile.

16 years old.

Sorry you can't go.

[The TRUST]

How can I get my mom to say yes. She is saying No because she doesnt know anyone on here and she is saying no even if my dad comes. Anyone got any ideas?

you can go on the 2009 trip

[Eatsomekiwis]

you can go on the 2009 trip

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I dont know why but thats the funniest thing I've heard all day

[varanio]

How can I get my mom to say yes. She is saying No because she doesnt know anyone on here and she is saying no even if my dad comes. Anyone got any ideas?

If your mom is not even letting you go w/ your dad then youre how should I say SCREWED ......

:screwy:

[The TRUST]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I dont know why but thats the funniest thing I've heard all day

I mean if his parents don't want him to go then that is a big no no right there.

For all u know he will run away from home then someone will sight him on us. Then we will all be on CNN and charged with kidnapping.

[Eatsomekiwis]

I mean if his parents don't want him to go then that is a big no no right there.

For all u know he will run away from home then someone will sight him on us. Then we will all be on CNN and charged with kidnapping.






haha no just the way you said it was funny

[AnDr3w]

:(

[Eatsomekiwis]

How can I get my mom to say yes. She is saying No because she doesnt know anyone on here and she is saying no even if my dad comes. Anyone got any ideas?

Is she a cougar? I'm pretty good with them :naughty:

[The TRUST]

haha no just the way you said it was funny


LOL! Well depending on the time of year as well it might even have to be 2010.

[AnDr3w]

shut up.

[AnDr3w]

Not you trust.

[The TRUST]

Not you trust.


I was gonna say......You hurt my feelings :cry:

[AnDr3w]

:D

I wouldnt do that! :)

[varanio]

shut up.

That comment alone just shows us why KIDS cannot be taken to these events without parental supervision.

:footinmou

[AnDr3w]

Im old enough to say shut up!
:nilly:
lol.

[varanio]

Im old enough to say shut up!
:nilly:
lol.

We know youre old enough....anyone that has the ability to speak is old enough to say shut up.....what I was referring to was your lack of maturity and with that lack of maturity shows us all why kids need to be supervised. I cant imagine what a fishing trip with a bunch of unsupervised 13-17 year would be like. :nilly:

[The TRUST]

That comment alone just shows us why KIDS cannot be taken to these events without parental supervision.

:footinmou


I agree. Again not to offend people but we are not there to babysit. Last thing everyone needs is a parent dropping their minor off saying "You guys better keep an eye on him or else..." and "you guys have to drop him off by...." and "he can't drive yet so you guys will have to bring him home."

These are some of the complications having minors along during a trip.

You can't blame your parents for not wanting you to go. I'm a parent too and I'd be worried for my child as well.

[AnDr3w]

I agree with what your saying. And Id like to say sorry for offending you Eatsomekiwis. I will not do it again.

[The TRUST]

I agree with what your saying. And Id like to say sorry for offending you Eatsomekiwis. I will not do it again.

Oh no harm done. I just hope we're explaining the reasons properly without offending any of the members who are minors and want to come.

[Nic]

I need a date so I can put in for my vacation.... but ill most likely be down for a weekend.... I can get plane tickets for cheap but can I rent a car I thought you had to be 25 to rent a car I'm soon to be 24....... ooo and how far is the closest beach cause a sure fire way I can go is to bring her and shove her on the beach for the day ;)

[Eatsomekiwis]

I agree with what your saying. And Id like to say sorry for offending you Eatsomekiwis. I will not do it again.

you didnt offend me, I dont think you offended anyone, its just the way you went about it that shows that when faced with other situations you might not be able to handle it on your own. Its no biggie, just run out to your local fishing hole, put you drag on supppppper low and pretend like the perch are really pbass haha
no worries

[milkman407]

We know youre old enough....anyone that has the ability to speak is old enough to say shut up.....what I was referring to was your lack of maturity and with that lack of maturity shows us all why kids need to be supervised. I cant imagine what a fishing trip with a bunch of unsupervised 13-17 year would be like. :nilly:

In your eyes, how is a person mature, By knowledge,age,what?

I'm 16 and who will stop me if I drive to miami to fish without a parent? I understand that hanging out with kids younger than you, can tend to be annoying. But there are plenty of teens out there who are a hell of alot more mature than you.

[varanio]

I need a date so I can put in for my vacation.... but ill most likely be down for a weekend.... I can get plane tickets for cheap but can I rent a car I thought you had to be 25 to rent a car I'm soon to be 24....... ooo and how far is the closest beach cause a sure fire way I can go is to bring her and shove her on the beach for the day ;)

Dude take your pick on the beaches. Thats a BIG NO PROBLEM.....you can rent a car if you dont mind paying the underage fee which is 12/ a day, but if youre there for a weekend it wont put a huge dent in your wallet. I can hook you up with the rental as I do every year for those members who qualify for the rental car.

[AnDr3w]

Oh no harm done. I just hope we're explaining the reasons properly without offending any of the members who are minors and want to come.

I know because when I am older like that I wont want to babysit either.

But I do see where your coming from.

[The TRUST]

In your eyes, how is a person mature, By knowledge,age,what?

I'm 16 and who will stop me if I drive to miami to fish without a parent? I understand that hanging out with kids younger than you, can tend to be annoying. But there are plenty of teens out there who are a hell of alot more mature than you.

Sigh here we go again.....that didn't sound very mature IMO.

There are some adults who don't act mature as well, but I don't see those types being invited.

[Eatsomekiwis]

Dude take your pick on the beaches. Thats a BIG NO PROBLEM.....you can rent a car if you dont mind paying the underage fee which is 12/ a day, but if youre there for a weekend it wont put a huge dent in your wallet. I can hook you up with the rental as I do every year for those members who qualify for the rental car.

What are the qualifications for the rental cars? Because id rather fly and rent than put miles and waste gas on an NSX or 350

[varanio]

In your eyes, how is a person mature, By knowledge,age,what?

I'm 16 and who will stop me if I drive to miami to fish without a parent?

You can fish all you want .... but you will not be fishing with us if that is the attitude that you would like to take. Rules are made for reasons and if you cant follow the rules then you cant fish with us. This is an association and it has rules and you as member when you pressed the little box when you signed up agreed to abide them. I think this includes any extra activities outside of the boards. Again feel free to come, but you will not be associated with us. You will also not be able to partake in any of our activities because we will not be held responsible for ANY of your actions. We cant stop you from coming, but we can stop you from fishing with us. Do it the right way or you will not be with our group simple as that!

[AnDr3w]

:popcorn:

[The TRUST]

You can fish all you want .... but you will not be fishing with us if that is the attitude that you would like to take. Rules are made for reasons and if you cant follow the rules then you cant fish with us. This is an association and it has rules and you as member when you pressed the little box when you signed up agreed to abide them. I think this includes any extra activities outside of the boards. Again feel free to come, but you will not be associated with us. You will also not be able to partake in any of our activities because we will not be held responsible for ANY of your actions. We cant stop you from coming, but we can stop you from fishing with us. Do it the right way or you will not be with our group simple as that!

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

[varanio]

What are the qualifications for the rental cars? Because id rather fly and rent than put miles and waste gas on an NSX or 350

If youre 21 and above I can get you a car, but again the underage driver fee. It will cost 12/ day on top of the rental rate and if you decide to take collision (which i recommend for s fl) I dont work for them, but I got a hook up. It shouldnt cost more than 150 bucks for the weekend for a regular car. But with the plane ticket and all it depends which way you want to do it. Just let me know i will be making reservations for everyone that wants a car.

[AnDr3w]

If youre 21 and above I can get you a car, but again the underage driver fee. It will cost 12/ day on top of the rental rate and if you decide to take collision (which i recommend for s fl) I dont work for them, but I got a hook up. It shouldnt cost more than 150 bucks for the weekend for a regular car. But with the plane ticket and all it depends which way you want to do it. Just let me know i will be making reservations for everyone that wants a car.


LOL. :iagree:

[Eatsomekiwis]

If youre 21 and above I can get you a car, but again the underage driver fee. It will cost 12/ day on top of the rental rate and if you decide to take collision (which i recommend for s fl) I dont work for them, but I got a hook up. It shouldnt cost more than 150 bucks for the weekend for a regular car. But with the plane ticket and all it depends which way you want to do it. Just let me know i will be making reservations for everyone that wants a car.

Is 21 the minimum age period or can you be under 21 but pay the underage fee? I know its like 25 or something like that for a rental, but does the fee only open to 21 and older? Because I'm almost 19 and If I can't get a rental I'll just drive or something
Thanks in advance

[varanio]

Is 21 the minimum age period or can you be under 21 but pay the underage fee? I know its like 25 or something like that for a rental, but does the fee only open to 21 and older? Because I'm almost 19 and If I can't get a rental I'll just drive or something
Thanks in advance

19 wont work bro you have to be between 21 and 24 to get the underage driver fee.

:(

[Eatsomekiwis]

19 wont work bro you have to be between 21 and 24 to get the underage driver fee.

:(

yeah thats what I wanted to know....
Dont worry though, haha

[AnDr3w]

yeah thats what I wanted to know....
Dont worry though, haha

Have your car shipped a few days before you come down.

[Eatsomekiwis]

Have your car shipped a few days before you come down.

that would be too costly and much of a hassle for a few days fishing.

[AnDr3w]

Yea that is true.

[milkman407]

heh

[AnDr3w]

heh

??

[ZOO YORK 207]

I'm going.. Don't worry I am not THAT annoying. :ROFL:

[AnDr3w]

Sometimes Im not. lol.

[varanio]

I'm going.. Don't worry I am not THAT annoying. :ROFL:

as long as youre 18+ youre fine. But again we will not stress enough the severity of the rules and how we expect for them to be followed.

[milkman407]

Will we be required to show i.d, to prove our age?

[AnDr3w]

Where is the fishing going to happen? Like Miami or Coral Springs or Ft Lauderdale or what?

[AnDr3w]

anyone?

[varanio]

Will we be required to show i.d, to prove our age?

Im not a cop and youre not buying porn or booze.... I dont need to see your ID, but we all now what your agenda is .... to come and be a little rebel. So listen here smartass either you come with a parent or you go find your own spot to fish in.

[AnDr3w]

:eek: :popcorn: :ROFL:

[varanio]

All of the fishing will take place in Broward and Dade counties. Specific spots will not be revealed in the forum, because some members will choose to ignore the rules of the trip and come unsupervised. If youre willing to adhere to the rules in place we will be contacting you to meet with us and from there you will follow us to where we do our fishing.

[AnDr3w]

No not like specific spots but like citys, not like county lines or anything....

[varanio]

try the c-14 in miami ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[milkman407]

Im not a cop and youre not buying porn or booze.... I dont need to see your ID, but we all now what your agenda is .... to come and be a little rebel. So listen here smartass either you come with a parent or you go find your own spot to fish in.

I was asking... You never know what happens. I dont plan on going to begin with, If I intend to fish its only to bring fish home, and as of now My tanks are full. So please dont be so immature, and start a fight.

[ZOO YORK 207]

as long as youre 18+ youre fine. But again we will not stress enough the severity of the rules and how we expect for them to be followed.

Nah I am turning 15, but either my dad or my aunt is comming. ;)

[varanio]

I was asking... You never know what happens. I dont plan on going to begin with, If I intent to fish its only to bring fish home, and as of now My tanks are full. So please dont be so immature, and start a fight.

Can you pick any fighting words from my post? I reffered to you as a smartass because thats exactly what youre doing as you did in this post by using the word immature. If you dont plan on coming then why are you making such a big deal about the rules set in place for the younger members safety? You think its funny to make a mochery of things that could potentially be harmful for you and your peers (if you decided to come)? Please stop derailing the thread with smart ass comments as they do no good. This is being done for the safety of the parents, the younger members, and MFK members that will be on this trip.

Capice?

[cichlaguapote]

I'm going.. Don't worry I am not THAT annoying. :ROFL:

Someone bring scissors..

Anyways underagers I think(keyword) it's not just because no one wants immaturity. It's a legality issue just the same, if someone turns up missing or someone gets arrested(not saying this would happen but example only) your parents aren't likely to be happy and would give everyone over 21 crap and possibly try to make them liable by law.

[AnDr3w]

You guys are going to the c-14?! I NEED to get my parents to say yes!

[ZOO YORK 207]

Someone bring scissors..

Anyways underagers I think(keyword) it's not just because no one wants immaturity. It's a legality issue just the same, if someone turns up missing or someone gets arrested(not saying this would happen but example only) your parents aren't likely to be happy and would give everyone over 21 crap and possibly try to make them liable by law.

Fine kevin edit your post:ROFL:. Ok bring the scissors.

[varanio]

Someone bring scissors..

Anyways underagers I think(keyword) it's not just because no one wants immaturity. It's a legality issue just the same, if someone turns up missing or someone gets arrested(not saying this would happen but example only) your parents aren't likely to be happy and would give everyone over 21 crap and possibly try to make them liable by law.

Thats exactly the point, but we have some people in the forum that wont or dont want to comprehend that.

[AnDr3w]

Deep breath in, deep breath out. In, out. lol. No need for bad words everything is going to be fine.

[milkman407]

Why am I makeing such a big deal out of the saftey of the young members? Because it needs to be done is why. If you dont think of every action, and possibility, than something will go wrong.

[AnDr3w]

I dont get that scissors thing. lol.

[ZOO YORK 207]

Why am I makeing such a big deal out of the saftey of the young members? Because it needs to be done is why. If you dont think of every action, and possibility, than something will go wrong.

Matt I think you are blowing this WAY outta proportion. They just don't want to be liable for anything that happens(not saying that anything will). Have you even asked your parents?

[varanio]

Andr3w i dont think you understand the seriousness of how people like myself and Li could be affected if one of you was to be hurt without a parent there.

[AnDr3w]

No I really do but it doesnt have to be a heated argument. Lets just talk. Milkman is a little angry but lets keep it nice. Not trying to be smart or anything but you know what I mean right?

[varanio]

Why am I makeing such a big deal out of the saftey of the young members? Because it needs to be done is why. If you dont think of every action, and possibility, than something will go wrong.



Hmmm im glad you grabbed the concept....

[cichlaguapote]

Matt I think you are blowing this WAY outta proportion. They just don't want to be liable for anything that happens(not saying that anything will). Have you even asked your parents?

Exactly. You guys are taking it way too personally. No one minds people who are underage, people do mind being liable and legally responsible for another person or a bunch of other people.

That's all I'll say but milk/others if you have a problem with that taking it to pm's or starting another thread would be better because you're derailing this.

[milkman407]

I'm more worried about the people 21 and over, rather than the young kids. If something happens to anyone under 21, li and var will be held responsible.

My parents dont care if I go, I've made 2 trips to miami to fish myself, they are used to my fishing trips. But, i dont want li getting introuble with the law Thats why I'm trying to help li, and var to think of all the possible actions they can take, to prevent something happening.

I'm done posting, after this one.

[varanio]

No I really do but it doesnt have to be a heated argument. Lets just talk. Milkman is a little angry but lets keep it nice. Not trying to be smart or anything but you know what I mean right?

I have no beef with you Andr3w trust me, I can actually admire you trying to get your mom to let you go. It speaks highly of you trying to do everything by the book. Making threats about coming alone without regards to the rules however doesnt fly, because of the elements involved (younger people). We really want to avoid any problems and thats why we are being hard press on these rules (safety first).

[cichlaguapote]

I'm more worried about the people 21 and over, rather than the young kids. If something happens to anyone under 21, li and var will be held responsible.



No.. Wrong.. That's why if you're under 21 you have to bring a guardian so then that person is liable for you. If you're older than 21 and do something stupid the law looks at is as you should have known better so it's no concern.

[varanio]

I'm more worried about the people 21 and over, rather than the young kids. If something happens to anyone under 21, li and var will be held responsible.

My parents dont care if I go, I've made 2 trips to miami to fish myself, they are used to my fishing trips. But, i dont want li getting introuble with the law Thats why I'm trying to help li, and var to think of all the possible actions they can take, to prevent something happening.

I'm done posting, after this one.

Those 21 and over are responsible for their actions (18 and over for that matter) Its the law...youre considered by book definition an adult. If anyone 18 and over comes we are free of liability. Those who are younger than 18 will need a parent present so therefore the parent is liable. This is why we made these rules to relieve us of any and all liabilities. I know some of us have folks that completely trust us. I was fortunate to have parents like that, but the rules are there and no exceptions will be made no matter how trusting parents are and how many times youve gone out unsupervised.

[koliveira]

Im in!!!!

Kory

[santoury]

I'm interested in going - but I may need to leave early for school, depending on when it is. I am 30, no worries there.

I will be taking my own car, and I do not have a desire to spend $1,000 to $1,500 for hotel fees, etc. I'd like info about a less expensive place to stay, as well as the area we will be in, so that I can join you guys (if possible) and leave when I need to.
Thanks

[varanio]

I'm interested in going - but I may need to leave early for school, depending on when it is. I am 30, no worries there.

I will be taking my own car, and I do not have a desire to spend $1,000 to $1,500 for hotel fees, etc. I'd like info about a less expensive place to stay, as well as the area we will be in, so that I can join you guys (if possible) and leave when I need to.
Thanks

There are quite a few good deals if you go to hotels.com or something like that. August in S Fl will not be as expensive for those sort of things as it is in the winter months. People escape our heat in the summer and come for our heat in the winter.

[AnDr3w]

I have no beef with you Andr3w trust me, I can actually admire you trying to get your mom to let you go. It speaks highly of you trying to do everything by the book. Making threats about coming alone without regards to the rules however doesnt fly, because of the elements involved (younger people). We really want to avoid any problems and thats why we are being hard press on these rules (safety first).

Thank you Varanio.

I agree about the second part of what your saying. They are not hard rules to comply with. If your under 21, come with a parent or dont come at all. :) Its not hard.

[AnDr3w]

School is :thumbsdow lol.

[ewurm]

I am in. Send me a plane ticket from MSP to Florida!

[midnight]

santoury,if you drive it will be cheaper
gas and food and hotel is all
and you can bring stuff back if you drive :naughty:

[The TRUST]

milkman,

Why don't u start a MFK Minor's Trip! 17 and under only. Next thing you know you'll have 5 year olds wanting to come.

Then they will say. I'm, responsible enough that I can go pee on my own and don't need adults to cross the road too. I always remember to looks both ways before crossing.

It's plain and simple ask a Parent or guardian to come along that's all the adults in the trip ask. I don't see why so much drama over a simple request the adults have made.

I mean after all the fuss you're creating I don't think people on the trip would even want to go fishing with you.

[JuanTamad]

Try to imagine parents of any underage participants receiving a letter like the following:


Dear Parents,

Our FishMaster told us to write to our parents in case you saw
the flood on TV and were worried. We are OK. Only one of us got his gear washed away. Luckily, none of us got drowned because we were all in the Everglades looking for Chad when it happened.

Oh yes, please call Chad's mother and tell her he is OK. He can't write
because of the cast. I got to ride in one of the search and rescue
jeeps. It was neat. We never would have found him in the dark if it
wasn't for the lightning.

Fishmaster Li got mad at Chad for going on fishing alone in the Everglades without telling anyone. Chad said he did tell him, but it was during the fire so he probably didn't hear him. Did you know that if you put gas on a fire, the gas can will blow up? The wet ponchos didn't burn, but someone's boat did. Also some of our clothes. John is going to look weird until his hair grows back.

We will be home Next week if FishMaster Li gets the car fixed.
It wasn't his fault about the wreck. The brakes worked OK when we left the hotel. FishMaster Li said that with a car that old you have to expect something to break down, that's probably why he can't get insurance. We think it's a neat car. He doesn't care if we get it dirty, and if it's hot, sometimes he lets us ride on the fenders. It gets pretty hot with 10 people in the car. He let us take turns riding in the trailer until the highway patrolman stopped and talked to us.

FishMaster Li is a neat guy. Don't worry, he is a good driver.
In fact, he is teaching Terry how to drive on the Everglades trails where
there isn't any traffic. All we ever see up here are huge trucks hauling gravel.

This morning, all of the guys were diving off the bridge and
swimming out in the lake. FishMaster Li wouldn't let me because I
can't swim, and Chad was afraid he would sink because of his cast, so he
let us take the canoe across the lake. It was great. You can still see
some of the trees under the water from the flood. FishMaster Li isn't
crabby like some FishMasters. He didn't even get mad about us leaving
the lifejackets. He has to spend a lot of time working on the car so we
are trying not to cause him any trouble.

Guess what? We have all caught our first Peacock Bass. When
Dave dove in the lake and cut his arm, we got to see how a fishing line can be used as a tourniquet.
Wade and I threw up, but FishMaster Li said it probably was just food poisoning from the leftover chicken. He said they got sick that way with food they ate in prison. I'm so glad he got out and became our FishMaster.

I have to go now. We are going to town to mail our letters and buy
bullets. Don't worry about anything. We are fine.

Your loving son,
UnderAge MFKer

:ROFL:

[rob0521]

woah, the letters funny, but its funnier that you probably took like an hour to come up with that:ROFL:

[AnDr3w]

milkman,

Why don't u start a MFK Minor's Trip! 17 and under only. Next thing you know you'll have 5 year olds wanting to come.

Then they will say. I'm, responsible enough that I can go pee on my own and don't need adults to cross the road too. I always remember to looks both ways before crossing.

It's plain and simple ask a Parent or guardian to come along that's all the adults in the trip ask. I don't see why so much drama over a simple request the adults have made.

I mean after all the fuss you're creating I don't think people on the trip would even want to go fishing with you.

Im in!

[koliveira]

Try to imagine parents of any underage participants receiving a letter like the following:


Dear Parents,

Our FishMaster told us to write to our parents in case you saw
the flood on TV and were worried. We are OK. Only one of us got his gear washed away. Luckily, none of us got drowned because we were all in the Everglades looking for Chad when it happened.

Oh yes, please call Chad's mother and tell her he is OK. He can't write
because of the cast. I got to ride in one of the search and rescue
jeeps. It was neat. We never would have found him in the dark if it
wasn't for the lightning.

Fishmaster Li got mad at Chad for going on fishing alone in the Everglades without telling anyone. Chad said he did tell him, but it was during the fire so he probably didn't hear him. Did you know that if you put gas on a fire, the gas can will blow up? The wet ponchos didn't burn, but someone's boat did. Also some of our clothes. John is going to look weird until his hair grows back.

We will be home Next week if FishMaster Li gets the car fixed.
It wasn't his fault about the wreck. The brakes worked OK when we left the hotel. FishMaster Li said that with a car that old you have to expect something to break down, that's probably why he can't get insurance. We think it's a neat car. He doesn't care if we get it dirty, and if it's hot, sometimes he lets us ride on the fenders. It gets pretty hot with 10 people in the car. He let us take turns riding in the trailer until the highway patrolman stopped and talked to us.

FishMaster Li is a neat guy. Don't worry, he is a good driver.
In fact, he is teaching Terry how to drive on the Everglades trails where
there isn't any traffic. All we ever see up here are huge trucks hauling gravel.

This morning, all of the guys were diving off the bridge and
swimming out in the lake. FishMaster Li wouldn't let me because I
can't swim, and Chad was afraid he would sink because of his cast, so he
let us take the canoe across the lake. It was great. You can still see
some of the trees under the water from the flood. FishMaster Li isn't
crabby like some FishMasters. He didn't even get mad about us leaving
the lifejackets. He has to spend a lot of time working on the car so we
are trying not to cause him any trouble.

Guess what? We have all caught our first Peacock Bass. When
Dave dove in the lake and cut his arm, we got to see how a fishing line can be used as a tourniquet.
Wade and I threw up, but FishMaster Li said it probably was just food poisoning from the leftover chicken. He said they got sick that way with food they ate in prison. I'm so glad he got out and became our FishMaster.

I have to go now. We are going to town to mail our letters and buy
bullets. Don't worry about anything. We are fine.

Your loving son,
UnderAge MFKer

:ROFL:

Sounds like a good time!!Lol. Nice one bro!!!:nilly:

Kory

[neoprodigy]

Try to imagine parents of any underage participants receiving a letter like the following:


Dear Parents,

Our FishMaster told us to write to our parents in case you saw
the flood on TV and were worried. We are OK. Only one of us got his gear washed away. Luckily, none of us got drowned because we were all in the Everglades looking for Chad when it happened.

Oh yes, please call Chad's mother and tell her he is OK. He can't write
because of the cast. I got to ride in one of the search and rescue
jeeps. It was neat. We never would have found him in the dark if it
wasn't for the lightning.

Fishmaster Li got mad at Chad for going on fishing alone in the Everglades without telling anyone. Chad said he did tell him, but it was during the fire so he probably didn't hear him. Did you know that if you put gas on a fire, the gas can will blow up? The wet ponchos didn't burn, but someone's boat did. Also some of our clothes. John is going to look weird until his hair grows back.

We will be home Next week if FishMaster Li gets the car fixed.
It wasn't his fault about the wreck. The brakes worked OK when we left the hotel. FishMaster Li said that with a car that old you have to expect something to break down, that's probably why he can't get insurance. We think it's a neat car. He doesn't care if we get it dirty, and if it's hot, sometimes he lets us ride on the fenders. It gets pretty hot with 10 people in the car. He let us take turns riding in the trailer until the highway patrolman stopped and talked to us.

FishMaster Li is a neat guy. Don't worry, he is a good driver.
In fact, he is teaching Terry how to drive on the Everglades trails where
there isn't any traffic. All we ever see up here are huge trucks hauling gravel.

This morning, all of the guys were diving off the bridge and
swimming out in the lake. FishMaster Li wouldn't let me because I
can't swim, and Chad was afraid he would sink because of his cast, so he
let us take the canoe across the lake. It was great. You can still see
some of the trees under the water from the flood. FishMaster Li isn't
crabby like some FishMasters. He didn't even get mad about us leaving
the lifejackets. He has to spend a lot of time working on the car so we
are trying not to cause him any trouble.

Guess what? We have all caught our first Peacock Bass. When
Dave dove in the lake and cut his arm, we got to see how a fishing line can be used as a tourniquet.
Wade and I threw up, but FishMaster Li said it probably was just food poisoning from the leftover chicken. He said they got sick that way with food they ate in prison. I'm so glad he got out and became our FishMaster.

I have to go now. We are going to town to mail our letters and buy
bullets. Don't worry about anything. We are fine.

Your loving son,
UnderAge MFKer

:ROFL:
bwhahahaha!!! good one matt...

[Superlaz]

This is getting way out of hand for a trip that over a year away. If you're under 18 rules are rules, if you're over you need not worry. Why is that so hard to understand ?...for those under 18, you have a whole year to get an adult to come down with you, I say you redirect the energy you are wasting on this thread and start getting to work on Mom and Dad ;)

Matt, Nice letter!

[AnDr3w]

This is getting way out of hand for a trip that over a year away. If you're under 18 rules are rules, if you're over you need not worry. Why is that so hard to understand ?...for those under 18, you have a whole year to get an adult to come down with you, I say you redirect the energy you are wasting on this thread and start getting to work on Mom and Dad ;)

Matt, Nice letter!

Year away?

More like 3 months. lol.

[rob0521]

im in guys once i convince my parents

[The TRUST]

Try to imagine parents of any underage participants receiving a letter like the following:


Dear Parents,

Our FishMaster told us to write to our parents in case you saw
the flood on TV and were worried. We are OK. Only one of us got his gear washed away. Luckily, none of us got drowned because we were all in the Everglades looking for Chad when it happened.

Oh yes, please call Chad's mother and tell her he is OK. He can't write
because of the cast. I got to ride in one of the search and rescue
jeeps. It was neat. We never would have found him in the dark if it
wasn't for the lightning.

Fishmaster Li got mad at Chad for going on fishing alone in the Everglades without telling anyone. Chad said he did tell him, but it was during the fire so he probably didn't hear him. Did you know that if you put gas on a fire, the gas can will blow up? The wet ponchos didn't burn, but someone's boat did. Also some of our clothes. John is going to look weird until his hair grows back.

We will be home Next week if FishMaster Li gets the car fixed.
It wasn't his fault about the wreck. The brakes worked OK when we left the hotel. FishMaster Li said that with a car that old you have to expect something to break down, that's probably why he can't get insurance. We think it's a neat car. He doesn't care if we get it dirty, and if it's hot, sometimes he lets us ride on the fenders. It gets pretty hot with 10 people in the car. He let us take turns riding in the trailer until the highway patrolman stopped and talked to us.

FishMaster Li is a neat guy. Don't worry, he is a good driver.
In fact, he is teaching Terry how to drive on the Everglades trails where
there isn't any traffic. All we ever see up here are huge trucks hauling gravel.

This morning, all of the guys were diving off the bridge and
swimming out in the lake. FishMaster Li wouldn't let me because I
can't swim, and Chad was afraid he would sink because of his cast, so he
let us take the canoe across the lake. It was great. You can still see
some of the trees under the water from the flood. FishMaster Li isn't
crabby like some FishMasters. He didn't even get mad about us leaving
the lifejackets. He has to spend a lot of time working on the car so we
are trying not to cause him any trouble.

Guess what? We have all caught our first Peacock Bass. When
Dave dove in the lake and cut his arm, we got to see how a fishing line can be used as a tourniquet.
Wade and I threw up, but FishMaster Li said it probably was just food poisoning from the leftover chicken. He said they got sick that way with food they ate in prison. I'm so glad he got out and became our FishMaster.

I have to go now. We are going to town to mail our letters and buy
bullets. Don't worry about anything. We are fine.

Your loving son,
UnderAge MFKer

:ROFL:

AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! That was funny! My stomach hurts from laughing! Ahhahahahahahahahaahaha!

[The TRUST]

OMG I Still can't stop laughing my ass off. AHahhahahahahhahahahahhaha!

[neoprodigy]

im in guys once i convince my parents
also you gotta have them chaperon you during whole duration of the trip..

[AnDr3w]

We might have that taken care of. JimJim911 brother in law (31) might be able to take us.

[jimjim911]

yea my bro inlaw will prob take us so expect to c some real fishing!!

[M|L]

NOTE : you must be 21 and older... or you must bring your parent... i/we cant babysit...

:(

[MicropterusSalmoides]

AAAAAH

[The TRUST]

will they know if i try to ship a snakehead??

"they" know now since you just posted for the whole world to read. :screwy:

[MicropterusSalmoides]

not any more

[Superlaz]

"they" know now since you just posted for the whole world to read. :screwy:

LMAO.....

for some reason I swore you guys were talking about Aug next year :screwy: no wonder...I was like whats the big fuss..u have time...:ROFL: Anyways, Still doesnt change much just hope we dont get hurricanes in that time ;)

[Nic]

I'm in as of now just need the date to finalize it.... hopefully I don't forget about this the wifey is happy about the beaches....

[Samps]

I'm down for August for sure.

Going before then but we can drive down again. ;)

[ZOO YORK 207]

I'm in as of now just need the date to finalize it.... hopefully I don't forget about this the wifey is happy about the beaches....

I also need a date so I know if I have school or not.

[AnDr3w]

Im going to be in school for sure. So make it a weekend! And we might ditch school for a day two. lol.

[midnight]

this sounds :nilly:

send the :screwy: ones to one spot and the rest to another :ROFL:

"just noticed i been on this forum for 1 year this month"
now wheres my freekin shirt neo :ROFL:

[neoprodigy]

this sounds :nilly:

send the :screwy: ones to one spot and the rest to another :ROFL:

"just noticed i been on this forum for 1 year this month"
now wheres my freekin shirt neo :ROFL:
varanio took my shirts... so i used up yours... LOL....

[The TRUST]

varanio took my shirts... so i used up yours... LOL....


Don't wash the shirts. Give them to midnight. It will have an extra scent ala Neo.

[rob0521]

hey guys i think im going. is it ok if i bring a friend thats into fish but not on this site. Someone here might know him, Chuck Davis, he recently gave a speech in canada or something i think on plecos.

[AnDr3w]

No robbie no boy friends! lol.

[JardiniBoy]

I'd love to come... ! :(

Already got a trip to Korea planned with the missus in Aug though, so not possible this time.

If someone is interested in a bass fishing trip to the Amazon one day, I'd definately try to make a plan!

[dragonfish]

Wanted to go but guess will have to wait for next year. Going to Alaska on a cruise in August.

[neoprodigy]

If someone is interested in a bass fishing trip to the Amazon one day, I'd definately try to make a plan!
its at works.... ;)

[varanio]

Li remember we have to go in Dec to SA lol

[Dr Joe]

Try to imagine parents of any underage participants receiving a letter like the following:


Dear Parents,

Our FishMaster told us to write to our parents in case you saw
the flood on TV and were worried. We are OK. Only one of us got his gear washed away. Luckily, none of us got drowned because we were all in the Everglades looking for Chad when it happened.

Oh yes, please call Chad's mother and tell her he is OK. He can't write
because of the cast. I got to ride in one of the search and rescue
jeeps. It was neat. We never would have found him in the dark if it
wasn't for the lightning.

Fishmaster Li got mad at Chad for going on fishing alone in the Everglades without telling anyone. Chad said he did tell him, but it was during the fire so he probably didn't hear him. Did you know that if you put gas on a fire, the gas can will blow up? The wet ponchos didn't burn, but someone's boat did. Also some of our clothes. John is going to look weird until his hair grows back.

We will be home Next week if FishMaster Li gets the car fixed.
It wasn't his fault about the wreck. The brakes worked OK when we left the hotel. FishMaster Li said that with a car that old you have to expect something to break down, that's probably why he can't get insurance. We think it's a neat car. He doesn't care if we get it dirty, and if it's hot, sometimes he lets us ride on the fenders. It gets pretty hot with 10 people in the car. He let us take turns riding in the trailer until the highway patrolman stopped and talked to us.

FishMaster Li is a neat guy. Don't worry, he is a good driver.
In fact, he is teaching Terry how to drive on the Everglades trails where
there isn't any traffic. All we ever see up here are huge trucks hauling gravel.

This morning, all of the guys were diving off the bridge and
swimming out in the lake. FishMaster Li wouldn't let me because I
can't swim, and Chad was afraid he would sink because of his cast, so he
let us take the canoe across the lake. It was great. You can still see
some of the trees under the water from the flood. FishMaster Li isn't
crabby like some FishMasters. He didn't even get mad about us leaving
the lifejackets. He has to spend a lot of time working on the car so we
are trying not to cause him any trouble.

Guess what? We have all caught our first Peacock Bass. When
Dave dove in the lake and cut his arm, we got to see how a fishing line can be used as a tourniquet.
Wade and I threw up, but FishMaster Li said it probably was just food poisoning from the leftover chicken. He said they got sick that way with food they ate in prison. I'm so glad he got out and became our FishMaster.

I have to go now. We are going to town to mail our letters and buy
bullets. Don't worry about anything. We are fine.

Your loving son,
UnderAge MFKer

:ROFL:

What's 'even funnier' is he called him 'fishmaster' Li. :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

.

Ok, I understand why andr3w's Mom might not want him to go...But for her not to want his Dad to go too... How bad is his Dad? :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:That's got to be a good reputation story :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Especially since he'll only be a hour away :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:.

I'm thinkin' they would liven up this trip a little.

(Oh, and by the way V... Best day ever fishing was with a kid not an adult)

Does sound like fun tho..I don't have any warrants in those cities (anymore)

(Please don't let my wife see this, she goes into such detail with her stories).

P.S. Have you guys been here in August?! (We stay indoors from July thru mid September.

Dr Joe

.

[midnight]

P.S. Have you guys been here in August?!
its like transylvania
when it starts to get dark...... RUN... :nilly:
you will start to hear the vampires coming out :eek:
and li,smaller people have been known to be taken away by the vampires :nilly:
you will go home looking like west nile virus got ya too from the vampire bites:nilly:

[AnDr3w]

What's 'even funnier' is he called him 'fishmaster' Li. :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

.

Ok, I understand why andr3w's Mom might not want him to go...But for her not to want his Dad to go too... How bad is his Dad? :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:That's got to be a good reputation story :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Especially since he'll only be a hour away :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:.

I'm thinkin' they would liven up this trip a little.

(Oh, and by the way V... Best day ever fishing was with a kid not an adult)

Does sound like fun tho..I don't have any warrants in those cities (anymore)

(Please don't let my wife see this, she goes into such detail with her stories).

P.S. Have you guys been here in August?! (We stay indoors from July thru mid September.

Dr Joe

.


Pssshhhhhh! Hour!? Its like 5 minutes away!:ROFL:

I get to go now anyway. LOL. Im going with Robo and JimJim911.
Our parents are coming too. Yayyy!

That is pretty funny tho Dr. Joe.

[neoprodigy]

here are 2 weekends we are shooting for

aug 18-19
or
aug 25-26


and how many days you want to fish?

[AnDr3w]

Both weekends or either or?

[ammerman19]

urghh that sucks I probably could have been there if it was the 12-13 :( ahh maybe next year.

[varanio]

Li either weekends is good for me!

[Superlaz]

damn man, I dont know if I can make those weekends......lol, j/k...

[AnDr3w]

18th is the 2nd day before school and the 19th is the day before school. I can go. And Ill go on the other weekend too I dont care either way!

[AnDr3w]

But which one is it? Both? Or your still deciding between the two?

[midnight]

im sure someone said it but i will say again incase. lol
that is peak hurricane season so be prepared for it ;)

[AnDr3w]

im sure someone said it but i will say again incase. lol
that is peak hurricane season so be prepared for it ;)

Haha. We know all about hurricanes us Florida boys. lol.

Forget them tho as long as the winds are under 50 and there is no lightning ill fish. lol.

[Kobi9019]

We know youre old enough....anyone that has the ability to speak is old enough to say shut up.....what I was referring to was your lack of maturity and with that lack of maturity shows us all why kids need to be supervised. I cant imagine what a fishing trip with a bunch of unsupervised 13-17 year would be like. :nilly:

Hey 17 year olds are just as responsible as 18 year olds or even 21 year olds. I might go, my family and I have a time share and we are there the 18 to the 25th I think. What kind of fishing would it be? Some saltwater?

[fote03]

Sounds like a blast i'm in. I will drive down either or both weekends.

[lilith]

I'm with Fote...I'll try and drive down as well....

[Superlaz]

Actually fishing during hurricanes is very productive....Dont know why, but have had some of my best days while im getting drenched....lol

[neoprodigy]

let pick the date!

MFK AUG 2007 South Florida : Pick the dates (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76226)

[DrZacharyus]

19 is too young to be without a parent? Comeon

[varanio]

18 and over no parents needed.

[CHOMPERS]

I am in for either weekend. Is a boat good to have for this trip?

[fote03]

Is this still a go? Are we going to try to stay at the same hotel or have a meeting place?

[jspatriots]

so what ever happend with this trip, im down in miami on business and would love to do some fishing, are you guys going this weekend?

[neoprodigy]

its been cancel... due to my extense travels plans... :(

[rob0521]

its been cancel... due to my extense travels plans... :(

who said you had to be there? :D

[duke33]

and I read throgh that whole thing.! Dayam! Maybe next time.

[neoprodigy]

who said you had to be there? :D
true.... but then you probally wont fish in the secret spot....

[midnight]

its been cancel... due to my extense travels plans... :(
ouch,thats gotta piss off a few.
:grinno:
you might want to hide out under one of your fish tanks for a while.
:ROFL:

[dovii88]

that blows

[DrZacharyus]

I will be making a trip regardless if members from MFK trip is a go, if anyone wants to go lets get a date set. I'm sure the C-14 is loaded with fish still.

[rob0521]

true.... but then you probally wont fish in the secret spot....

oooo secret spot:nilly:

[varanio]

im still down to go if there is still interest

[Superlaz]

Just hit me up with some advance notice...we can meet up on a weekend ;)

[CHOMPERS]

There is still interest, but all the messages are scattered across a bunch of threads. I think we need a new thread.

[altimaser]

So, did this trip ever happen, or is this the one that is now September. I'm down for Sept. I have a Bucs game on the 16th, but am free after that weekend.

[midnight]

So, did this trip ever happen, or is this the one that is now September. I'm down for Sept. I have a Bucs game on the 16th, but am free after that weekend.
it got cancelled,neo went broke on exotic fish and couldnt go. :ROFL: