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FisHaRNekEd
06-28-2007, 5:39 AM
This guy is about 16-20" long and kinda stout like a grouper but his bottom jaw was almost beak like. I took this Pic last week in the Gulf of Aiden HOA. About 10-12 m deep. He seemd to be alone and not in a school
He was one of the fyew fish that didnt scatter as i came lumbering along, he let me get about a foot away then took a wack at the camera (I then decided to leave him alone)
I also saw a black lion fish a little smaller than a football, is this heard of or did I have the bends? I lost him in some debris before i could get close enough. Im goin back down next month this time i wont drop the camera (got it back though it floats).
spotfin
06-28-2007, 7:44 AM
May be some type of hawkfish.
Scuba Kid
06-28-2007, 10:56 AM
Looks sort of like an adult ornate hawkfish. Hmmm not quite sure though.
FisHaRNekEd
06-29-2007, 1:20 PM
What about the Black lion fish? im i crazy, iv owned several lionfish and never heard of this.
BIGgourami
06-29-2007, 2:17 PM
yeah there are black lions? buduh...:D but seriously there are.
it kinda looks like a nassau grouper
Scuba Kid
06-29-2007, 3:51 PM
The stripes on the side look right for a nassau grouper, but they don't have spots like that...
And yes, there are black lionfish. :D
http://www.tankedup-imaging.com/images/pre_lionfish_black1.jpg
FisHaRNekEd
06-30-2007, 3:28 AM
Thats the one, Thanx.
chrisdef15
06-30-2007, 6:52 AM
Yeah its def some type of grouper.
FisHaRNekEd
06-30-2007, 11:15 AM
I guess maybe the stars were alligned just right and a grouper cross bred with a hawk fish to make some sort of hawk-grouper.
maybe not the stars but nuclear waste?
It did have a beak like mouf. How big do Hawkfish get?
Scuba Kid
06-30-2007, 12:57 PM
Hawkfish can get big depending on the species.
Beak like mouth definitely suggests that its not a grouper.....groupers have big lips. :)
FisHaRNekEd
07-01-2007, 12:30 PM
Thank you for all the help gents or ladies.
I will have the guessing game again after my next dive, im not too familiar with non game fish. And im new to scuba.
p.s. i have many more pics if anyone wants to see.
Groupers are also highly variable in color within the same localities and species and it even depends on their moods, time of day and different activities. I have a coney grouper and I regularly see it about 4 different colors and patterns and any combo there of.
Scuba Kid
07-02-2007, 10:27 PM
Post your pics up! I'm sure everyone will want to see. :)
FisHaRNekEd
07-03-2007, 10:24 AM
here's a few more
BIGgourami
07-03-2007, 3:50 PM
solar wrasse, porkfish, acrocorpa some bleaching some not, purple tang, and some other fish, maybe a sweetlips or grunt?
FisHaRNekEd
07-04-2007, 5:15 AM
Thanx for the ID
Scuba Kid
07-04-2007, 10:56 AM
Yep, the last one looks like some kind of sweetlips. Pretty fish. :)
BIGgourami
07-04-2007, 3:35 PM
just trying to help :D
chrisdef15
07-07-2007, 2:24 AM
Hawkfish can get big depending on the species.
Beak like mouth definitely suggests that its not a grouper.....groupers have big lips. :)
Have a look at a footish long miniata or polleni. Mouth looks exactly like the pic. Not all groupers look the same.
I dont think he ment a beak i think he ment it was pointy.
FisHaRNekEd
07-08-2007, 12:11 PM
Pointy' Beaky' -same thing
BIGgourami
07-08-2007, 8:12 PM
but pointy can still be fleshy, beaks are usually hard/bony
FisHaRNekEd
07-09-2007, 11:11 PM
I wasnt paying that much attention but Pointy, Beaky, Fleshy its all the same.
FisHaRNekEd
07-09-2007, 11:14 PM
Seriously, it had a pointy mouf i think i may have said 'beak' but it wasnt like a parrot fish it had lips.
so final answer looks like-
Grouper or
hawkfish or
undecided based on that being a low quality pick at a bad angle.
thanks for your support,
-Eddie-
Atarax
08-08-2007, 10:52 PM
post more pics when u get em. looks like a great place to dive.
FisHaRNekEd
08-10-2007, 6:44 AM
Yes the diving is great once you get past the terrorism, starvation and oil slick / Dump they call a port. ill be going the last week of this month, and be back with pore pics. thanks
FisHaRNekEd
08-29-2007, 3:55 PM
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1094451#post1094451
Here is more