amquel plus

[bluedempsey]

Well today i learned that amquel, if not used properly CAN KILL FISH
though none were mine, a customer of mine said "he add some because his nitrates were high" ...... i really don't know how much he added, but all of the fish
but 3 were dead when i got there :(
the remaining 3 were at the surface gasping for air
Amquel says this: Amquel+ can moderately reduce oxygen levels in the water during first hours after use :(
well what i'm getting at is has anyone else had this problem?

[rweedon]

this has never been a problem with my customers but I always walk them through the directions "if your tank is this big you put this much understand? you better little kid cuz if you dont you will kill all your fish" :ROFL:

[bluedempsey]

some people just don't listen

[Ornatapinnis]

THere has to be more to this story. Amquell is a great product that I have been using for years with no problems. If the fish suffocated there probibably were greater problems in the first place other than high nitrates. The fact that the aquarium had high nitrates suggests that the aquarium may not be maintained very well. Furthermore, adding "chemicals" is seldom if ever the way to correct water quality issues. If used correctly in a healthy aquarium, Amquell will not kill your fish. THis person must have done something really wrong. Kind of sounds like bad maintenance practice & overdosing Amquell. Didn't they read the lable?!!

[Miles]

AmQuel chemically binds Nitrates and other waste products with the use of liquid sulfur. When the toxins are 'binded' it still leaves them in the water, leaving less room for o2 and 'clean' water which can withhold more incoming nitrates and toxins. Overdosing with AmQuel can cause a severe crash in pH as well, but I am unsure if this has any connection with the alkalinity and cO2 levels in the tank, as a crashing pH would indicate a low alkalinity and possibly a jump in cO2 levels, or perhaps its just the lack of available 'oxygenated' water. It also binds ammonia before your nitrifying bacteria can eat it, which will harm your biological filtration.

AmQuel and other ammonia removers were designed to Import fish and for emergencies. THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR DAILY USE, no matter how much LFS people or other people 'swear' by it, it is really not intended for the hobbyist, IMO.

It is like spraying air freshener in a room full of fecal matter. Problem not solved.

[DeLgAdO]

i dont use amquel plus

amquel original all the way :thumbsup:

[redtailfool]

I used to use amquel regularly but i found that the rays are more relaxed when i used a regular "water conditioner" ; one that doesnt removes ammonia and nitrate.

[DeLgAdO]

AmQuel chemically binds Nitrates and other waste products with the use of liquid sulfur. When the toxins are 'binded' it still leaves them in the water, leaving less room for o2 and 'clean' water which can withhold more incoming nitrates and toxins. Overdosing with AmQuel can cause a severe crash in pH as well, but I am unsure if this has any connection with the alkalinity and cO2 levels in the tank, as a crashing pH would indicate a low alkalinity and possibly a jump in cO2 levels, or perhaps its just the lack of available 'oxygenated' water. It also binds ammonia before your nitrifying bacteria can eat it, which will harm your biological filtration.

AmQuel and other ammonia removers were designed to Import fish and for emergencies. THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR DAILY USE, no matter how much LFS people or other people 'swear' by it, it is really not intended for the hobbyist, IMO.

It is like spraying air freshener in a room full of fecal matter. Problem not solved.

so it is still ok to use it once after a water change right?

[redtailfool]

yeah , as long as you have sufficient oxygen or aeration on your tank and
if you dose it right.

I guess what miles is trying to say is that if your maintenance is good, then why
bother with ammonia and nitrate removers? there shouldnt be any in the first place.

[Miles]

Ah yes.. for those who have Chloramine in your water.. Sometimes it is essential at running a balanced system. It was intended for those who have horrible tap water sources, as well.

[DeLgAdO]

i use a measuring shot glass to dose the amquel

no more spoons

hmmm lets see 10. . . 20. . . . 30. . . 40. . . 50. . . . 60. . . .

with the shot glass

just fill to the 30 mil line

30mililiters x 3 doses = 180 gals of water

bam bam bam!!!!!!

all done :)

[redtailfool]

Ah yes.. for those who have Chloramine in your water.. Sometimes it is essential at running a balanced system. It was intended for those who have horrible tap water sources, as well.


I forgot about those as well . LOL

[bluedempsey]

[QUOTE=Ornatapinnis]THere has to be more to this story. QUOTE]
i did not studder, that was all i knew at the time.
later that day i found out he dump half of a 500 ml. bottle in a 100 gallon tank
but when you test the water everything is fine! btw this tank i'm talking about is saltwater

[Miles]

I've been told that AmQuel will not effect testing kits..

ie: You have Ammonia, you use AmQuel, ammonia is removed, but still tests positive..