View Full Version : who keeps pickerel and pikes?
i currently have a 12in northern pike and 3 chain pickerel in my pond (8-16in) i feed chopped shrimp and feeders constantly while tryign to grow them out a bit more for sale
who keeps them with chock full of stick tanks (so they can go into ambush mode) and get them into a full scale wild situation
i love watching them hunt and chill while i play loud music , nothign phases them
piranha45
05-09-2005, 12:33 AM
how big's ur pond?
illegal in Oregon dammit, I love chain and grass plkerel. l
piranha45
05-10-2005, 12:58 AM
pickerel are illegal in oregon!?!?!?!? whats the logic in that? might as well make bluegill illegal lol
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 3:27 AM
whats the smallest species of esox?
piranha45
05-10-2005, 3:28 AM
americanus and vermiculatus
redfin and grass pickerels
theyre considered subspecies of one another, both get around 12" tops
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 3:34 AM
americanus and vermiculatus
redfin and grass pickerels
theyre considered subspecies of one another, both get around 12" tops
i saw the emerald morph of americanus... that was awesome...
i really want to get one esox for my comm tank. So far only muskies have been imported here.... too big for my 6ft setup...
pickerels can get along with other big predatory fish?
piranha45
05-10-2005, 3:44 AM
pickerels and pikes are very docile, like gars. Very prone to getting harassed and bullied by more aggressive tankmates, if said tankmates feel like harassing them...
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 4:05 AM
pickerels and pikes are very docile, like gars. Very prone to getting harassed and bullied by more aggressive tankmates, if said tankmates feel like harassing them...
as long as the tankmates are not of edible size i guess...
I agree, and dolly varden, and lmbass west of Rockies, native systems are all ready screwed.
americanus and vermiculatus
redfin and grass pickerels
theyre considered subspecies of one another, both get around 12" tops
I think the grass are better looking esp. you can get the color phase with high contrast markings.
as long as the tankmates are not of edible size i guess...
Hardhitting and large mouthed ambush predators who are otherwise docile,yup, If they are well fed even large bluegills will pester the hell out of them.
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 10:55 PM
Hardhitting and large mouthed ambush predators who are otherwise docile,yup, If they are well fed even large bluegills will pester the hell out of them.
thought of keeping one with my aros and dats...
piranha45
05-11-2005, 12:49 AM
your arrows will harass it or eat it, or both.
IoStrisciare
05-11-2005, 12:59 AM
your arrows will harass it or eat it, or both.
mine aren't that big yet.
was thinking of trying coz they are getting along fine with the other edible sized monsters in my tank...
they kinda keep to themselves...
and owning an esox is a kinda long time dream of mine...
hell.... maybe i'll just get one tank for it....
piranha45
05-11-2005, 1:10 AM
well, if you dont mind the risk, then by all means go for it, its just I'm pretty sure that's what will happen...
part of the fun of fishkeeping is taking risks. If you have a steady source of esox you can get, then by all means try it. But if you can only get ahold of 1 or 2, then you might wanna avoid it...
I HAD ONE NOT VERY AGGRESSIVE FISH .HAD MORE FUN RAISING LARGE MOUTH BASS THEY TRY TO FIT EVERY THING IN THEIR MOUTH.
IoStrisciare
05-11-2005, 1:48 AM
well, if you dont mind the risk, then by all means go for it, its just I'm pretty sure that's what will happen...
part of the fun of fishkeeping is taking risks. If you have a steady source of esox you can get, then by all means try it. But if you can only get ahold of 1 or 2, then you might wanna avoid it...
yea... which might be the case... would a 400L tank do for one on its own?
piranha45
05-11-2005, 1:49 AM
yes, easily.
yea... which might be the case... would a 400L tank do for one on its own?
Yes but not pike, let them get a bit hungry and you can watch them stalk and pounce from the weeds.
IoStrisciare
05-11-2005, 2:04 AM
yes, easily.
then maybe i will set up one in my bedroom for it...
with some dats for tankmates... or some Lates...
IoStrisciare
05-11-2005, 2:05 AM
Yes but not pike, let them get a bit hungry and you can watch them stalk and pounce from the weeds.
thats what i like best abt these guys...
if i can place another 600L tank in my place i would like to try a tiger muskie... those look awesome...
How is Northern Pike? I had caught a couple 12"-14" pikes, and threw them in my tank. Didn't do so well. My 19" silver Aro bit one right away, but nothing else went after them. Within the hour, both of them were dead. Besides that one bite the Aro made on the pike (didn't see physical damage) all the fish left them alone. I would LOVE to keep Pike (or if I can get my hands on a Tiger Muskie!!).
Sorry for the double post..
Meant to ask if Pike can actually survive in the tropical aquarium. Maybe it was the shock of transportation (2 hour car ride) or it was the warm water..or it was something else I am missing.
rui, i read that pike like colder water
nice red texas u got.....love that head bump potential
i once caught a 10" musky on 14" swimm wizz lure......damn to this day i think i should have keep it.....saw 6" musky at lfs for $25 candian last year.....when i asked the Big Als manager he told me they were florida pond raised and thus were legal to sell in store here....they were sold as florida pike but i know they were musky due to light yellowish vertical bars...never seen them here again!!!!!!........damn should have picked some up then
it would be cool to keep pike, musky, pickerel, small and large mouth bass, crappy, blue gill, rock bass and sun fish all in same tank.......damn, i have caught all those fish here
it would be cool too to keep brook and rainbow trout
They need an unheated and well aereated tank.
trout guy
05-14-2005, 1:43 AM
Sorry for the double post..
Meant to ask if Pike can actually survive in the tropical aquarium. Maybe it was the shock of transportation (2 hour car ride) or it was the warm water..or it was something else I am missing.
pike prefer water in the low seventies and high sixties. ive heard of pike tolerating some pretty warm waters. drip accimilating is your best bet when introducing em to ur aquarium.
as long as theres no sudden temp raises (liek froma water change) then a pike is fine into the 90's as is chain pickerel
muskies and grass and redfin pickerel i do not know as i dotn have exsperience
there are chain pickerel and pike from new england to florida
JRMunroe
06-06-2005, 12:00 PM
I kept a Grass Pickerel in a tank with 9 Sunfish and they acted like they couldn't even see each other. With all the territorial squabling the Sunfish did, they never paid the slightest attention to the Pickerel, and vice versa. Only problem was getting food past the Sunfish and into the Pickerel. It was interesting to see the preparations the Pickerel made before striking. Tested his mouth, wiggled like a cat ready to pounce, aimed directly at the prey, then struck so fast you almost couldn't see him move. If he missed, he'd pout for a while before starting over again.
IoStrisciare
06-19-2005, 10:32 AM
just got myself 2 baby Esox Lucius, Northern Pike...
YeeHaaaaa!
Been waiting for this for ages...
anywhere sell these fish?
piranha45
06-19-2005, 11:27 PM
anywhere sell these fish?
http://www.minnesotamuskiefarm.com/aquariums.html
dark_eagle81
07-10-2005, 1:17 AM
how much did u get the nothern pike for??
Pike stop breeding in mid 70's, guess that's not a problem for one in a tank.
FreaKaMaNia
07-10-2005, 6:56 AM
I got a tiny Northern Pike in my pond, and am having difficulties getting it to eat. It doesn't seem to be interested in the numerous guppies and platies in the pond. Guess I'll have to starve it for a while before throwing feeders into the pond.
guppy
07-10-2005, 11:19 AM
Does it have plants for cover, if not it is probably nervous.