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large_cichlids
07-07-2007, 11:07 PM
ok.....i think i want a emerald tree boa.Ive been doing research for a while,and i think i will keep it in a 37 gallon tank.As they are tall and deep.for heat ill use a infared exo terra bulb.and i will have two main large branches,and a dark backround so he will be comfortable.Plus i will have a water dish for him to drink out of.does this sound ok.I was thinking about leaving the bulb on for about 12 hours so he will stay warm.does any body know where i can order one for a good price.:D
large_cichlids
07-07-2007, 11:08 PM
i dont want to spend over 400
TheBloodyIrish
07-07-2007, 11:14 PM
Don't use an aquarium, they don't hold heat or humidity well.
If you are serious about it... look for an arboreal setup made of plastic. Also, ETBs and ATBs are not cheap to come by.
large_cichlids
07-07-2007, 11:18 PM
ok thanks....do u kno any breeders
TheBloodyIrish
07-07-2007, 11:28 PM
Only Canadian ones, so they would not be much use to you since you probably prefer American breeders.
What is your budget? I am thinking it is your first snake, and you probably don't want to get in trouble with your sister and your mother. So that means it have to be escape-proof with a lock.
large_cichlids
07-07-2007, 11:41 PM
true.....my budget would be around 400 bucks.i was hoping to get one around that price.
TheBloodyIrish
07-08-2007, 12:01 AM
Too bad Neodesha discontinued their lines of reptile cages. Their cages were cheap and efficent to keep hot herps in, which is probably the best in your case. I have only seen used ones on the market lately.
I haven't used Boaphile Plastics or Visions yet, so I can't really vouch for them. I am only thinking of your wellbeing here, believe me... the last thing you want is for that boa to escape and bite one of the family members if they made you give away your Nile Monitor.
Snake_Eyes
07-08-2007, 2:15 AM
Try here... http://market.kingsnake.com/index.php?cat=33
An ATB would be a much better choice to begin with.
I agree an ATB would be much better to begin with. Even a green tree python would be a better snake. Visions are cool, but I have heard they tend to sag in the middle as they get older. I reckon you'd be better with a custom made acrylic enclosure (such as Tony Nicoli, http://www.boas.net/index.html) or get something like a herptek, they will last a lifetime. Over here they cost just over 800 dollars for a suriname, and 2000 dollars for an amazon basin, so i don't know how far 400 is going to get you. You could get a really attractive red ATB for probably around 250-300. There are a lot of care sheets out there on ETBs. They probably won't drink too much out of a bowl, but still good to have. Most people will tell you these aren't first time snakes, and you need a lot more experience. But if you do enough research and can keep the conditions it needs then... but it needs a lot of research, a very large amount.
TheBloodyIrish
07-08-2007, 7:56 AM
If you ask me... I rather have a Carpet Python for an aggressive arboreal, okay... semi-arboreal, or a Diamond Python for a beginner arboreal if unexplained sudden deaths are to be expected. Well... not all Carpets are aggressive, however the ones I have handled were.
Anyway, remember tree boas are usually display only. So don't let other people open the enclosure... LOCK it. Once in awhile, you get a nice one, but most time they will draw blood if picked up. Too bad you are not going for Green Tree Pythons, I know an excellent book I could recommend for keeping them in captivity.
If you ask me... I rather have a Carpet Python for an aggressive arboreal, okay... semi-arboreal, or a Diamond Python for a beginner arboreal if you don't mind the unexplained sudden deaths. Well... not all Carpets are aggressive, however the ones I had handled were.
Anyway, remember tree boas are usually display only. So don't let other people open the enclosure... LOCK it. Once in awhile, you get a nice one, but most time they will draw blood if picked up. Too bad you are not going for Green Tree Pythons, I know an excellent book I could recommend for keeping them in captivity.
doens't happen to be by greg maxwell does it? I wouldn't say a diamond would be better, because they are a different type of husbandry again, but you could get a really nice high yellow jungle carpet python, or maybe a jag...
TheBloodyIrish
07-08-2007, 8:16 AM
Yeah... you read my mind, it's by Greg Maxwell. Too bad I don't have any books on ATBs and ETBs to recommend to LC.
A lot of snakes are different type of husbandry. ;) I just find Diamond to be more handable and is pretty much a world-class of their own.
Carpet pythons are sweet though. When I get back into the hobby again, I am going to track down my old Australian herps and see if the owners want to give them up, then add the Carpet and Children genus to my collection.
Oh yeah, diamonds are great at the handling part and are good feeders, they just need to be kept cooler and not fed often at all. Shame they cost about 2000 around here... even for just the black and whites, they are my fav. snake.
On the other hand, I don't know any great books for emeralds or atbs to be honest, not specifically for them anyway, i know there is a book on both gtps and emerald tree boas, but i don't know if its any good. This one http://www.amazon.com/Green-Tree-Python-Emerald-Boa/dp/3980420736
If anyone has the more complete chondro for sale, please pm me, can't get the book at all, and i regret selling the first edition one.
Ophiuchus
07-08-2007, 9:03 AM
Okay...I've been gone for while, so I'm not sure what all LC currently has in his menagerie.
But LargeCichlids, I would not recommend a GTP or a ETB. Not trying to be mean, but you're simply not ready. You cannot afford either snake on your budget, and you will end up killing it, simply because you're not prepared for it. Try an Amazon Tree Boa first; like everyone said, they're cheaper and hardier.
TheBloodyIrish
07-08-2007, 9:51 AM
I think it's 2 Tokay Geckos, 2 Leopard Geckos and a Mangrove Monitor... which is better. He started taking care of them better than before. He already started planning a bigger custom-made vivarium for his monitor, which we pushed that it need a lot of horizontal as well as vertical space.
I am recommending him to keep his snake under lock since his parents made him gave away his Nile Monitor since it drew blood when it bit his sister.
large_cichlids
07-08-2007, 10:22 AM
yea i have two tokays,1 patternless leo gecko,and a blazing blizard gecko.and a mangrove monitor.they are all doing good.:headbang2
cichlaguapote
07-08-2007, 10:36 AM
What about using rubbermaids/sterlite for babys? I use one temporarily for my baby gtp and it has locking clips that come on it. Don't know if it will work with the snakes you want but maybe someone can say if it will.
I will tell you to do your research and do it some more.. I research GTP's like no tommorrow and still don't know everything.
I will also tell you find out if it's a snake thats able to be handled or not. Can't handle my GTP right now and he although beautiful is a total prick when it comes to territory. So he is a display only snake for a while. Honestly I feel like I'd be more impressed with just a pastel ball morph sometimes.
Another thing is I know you like to feed stuff to your animals you can find around the house like ground beef/eggs/etc really you will have to start buying live or preferably frozen mice which will require a small income.
Snake_Eyes
07-08-2007, 11:28 AM
I've kept my ATB in a 73qt Sterlite tub for over 2 years now.
TheBloodyIrish
07-08-2007, 11:40 AM
Rubbermaids/Sterlites/Really Useful Boxes/Click Clack are all good if you are into keeping them or collecting for yourself, however I feel that he is more into putting them on display for observation and showing off to other people... otherwise he would not have those herps in his aquariums. Not to mention he would have to make sure it is escape-proof and rendered closed so other people, like his sister, cannot access it.
Man... I miss the Neodesha lines... they were like $50-120 bucks depending on the model back in the days.