Marineland Stealth heaters vs. Ehiem Ebo Jager

[David Tobler]

I'm picking up a 75w heater for my 20 gallon. Just interested in everyone's opinions of the pros and cons with these two heaters?

[ewurm]

I love the Stealth. I haven't tried the other one. Stealth is expensive though.

[JustLooking]

I run stealth heaters in all my tanks,work great.
Never used the other.

Ewurm,I got 2 250 stealths for 19 each.

[rallysman]

I use both and love both. If I want to hide it, I use the stealth. Otherwise I just buy whichever is on sale.

[12 Volt Man]

I love the Ebos, have not used a stealth.

if in 20 years the Ebo's go faulty, I will try them next :)

ebo's have a very good reputation - have really been the standard to which all heaters where compared to up until recently, when the newer non-glass heaters came out.

[Wolf3101]

I've used both heaters and havn't really had any complaints but I'm seriously leaning towords the newer in-line heaters for the canister returns. almost no chance of 'hot spots' and even less equipment inside the tank.

[dmopar74]

i love my stealths, never used ebo's though.

[ewurm]

I run stealth heaters in all my tanks,work great.
Never used the other.

Ewurm,I got 2 250 stealths for 19 each.

You got PM.

[vanilla__gorilla__]

I like both

[WyldFya]

I've used the old school ebo jagers (green) the newer ebo jagers (blue, gray and black), the old Eheim Jagers (blue, gray and black) and I've use the new Eheim Jagers (gray, black and blue), I've also used the Stealths, and I like the ebo's and the stealths. I have noticed that the stealth heaters can't handle as large of a volume of water, but they are also much smaller, and much easier to hide. The new eheim jagers don't measure up to the old ebo jager heaters, but they are still good heaters. I find they don't last like the ebo's do.

[ercnan]

I use Stealth's as well. Don't know about Ebo's, but Stealth's have a lifetime replacement warranty if they fail. As I've had a failure, I do know they stand behind the product. A simple phone call, explanation of the issue, and that was it. A few days later the new one showed up at my door.

[rxracer]

and the crappy part about the new ebo is its not fully submersible. i have the biggest ebo heater you can get sitting at my house in box casue its not fully submersible... it wouldnt work in my tank :(

[12 Volt Man]

yes it is. in certain states and provinces they are required to to say that in order to meet certain electrical standard associations (eg CSA in Canada).

the heaters ARE fully subermersible. there is no difference between those heaters and normal Ebo's.

For example, in order the even sell the ebo's in canada, they have to meet CSA standards. In order to meet these standards, they have to put that label on there..

don't worry. Its fully submersible :) Just ignore the water line.

[12 Volt Man]

comments from another board surrounding the confusion:

From what I understand Kgolem has it basically right.

This is basically what I read, people have posted email conversations with Eheim folks about it.

When Ebo-Jaeger was bought out, they moved the manufacturing plant back to Europe or closed the one in the US or something like that. Since the heaters are now made in Europe they need appropriate paperwork to get re-classified as submersible in the US and Canada.

They are sold as totally submersible in Europe, but not in US or Canada...yet. The exact same heater. Many people use it as fully submersible. The European website also indicates they are full submersible.

You can find all this info on Reef Central and other sites...it comes up often.

[rxracer]

hmm.... thats odd casue everwhere it says not fully submersible

[12 Volt Man]

only on the heater itself.

all the packaging states fully submersible.

every ebo sold in canada has a water line in order to comply with CSA standards only, but everyone submerses them because they are no different than the heaters they sell in europe.

even the package says fully submersible. :)

[12 Volt Man]

check it out:

even the eheim north american website says its fully submersible.

that corroborates what we heard about the Standards thing:


http://www.eheim.com/jager.htm

so, like we all do, submerse them and enjoy.

they are great heaters! :)

[rxracer]

my package didnt say fully submersible :confused:

i was just reading on google, and it says the new TL version is fully submersible, so does that mean the other one i bought like 4 months ago isnt???

[12 Volt Man]

hey, I notice that they show a 300W size on the North American website! anyone know if this is new because I have never seen one in my area...

[12 Volt Man]

my package didnt say fully submersible :confused:

i was just reading on google, and it says the new TL version is fully submersible, so does that mean the other one i bought like 4 months ago isnt???


no. the ebos were never not fully submersible.

they have always been made that way.

I'll try and get some more info on the confusion.

the waterline is just a requirement to meet standards that are necessary if they are going to sell their product in certain places.

they don't make two different heaters, one submersible and one nonsubmersible. they are all the same.

[rxracer]

im pretty sure i have the 250w... never seen the 300..

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3858&Ntt=ebo%20jager&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&pc=1&N=2004&Nty=1

this is the exact one i have but in a 250w model

[12 Volt Man]

found this on another board:

I have 3 250 watt elbo jagers submerged in my sump. Originally when I bought them the web page stated submerable, but once I got them they had a Max Water Line on them, so I called the company. They reported to me to get CSA approval in Canada they needed the water line but they are indeed submersible.

link is here:

http://ovas.ca/index.php?topic=13786.msg105579

if you read through this thread, it clears up the confusion:

the waterline was a requirement to get CSA approval ONLY and has nothing to do with the heater not being submersible.

so dip your heaters everyone! :)

[rxracer]

thanx... that makes me feel a lil better about my new heater that has been collecting dust for the past 4 months!!

[Nic]

can't go wrong with either... both are excellent heaters

[craig]

Like them both.Never had a problem with either. The Stealth is just a little better at being Pacu proof,if you know what I mean.

[12 Volt Man]

yes, I know all about that LOL (see the weirdest fish incident thread..) LOL