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JD_MAN was beating me in this category, some to none, so I picked one up for my community loach tank. Hopefully I can train it to protect the bubbles! LOL
WyldFya
07-17-2007, 8:52 PM
Haha! Nice pickup wurm.
mike dunagan
07-17-2007, 8:53 PM
wurm, you can pick up a lot of them around here for cheap... tons of breeding angels came from a guy around here and have spread all over Indiana...I am going to pick a few more...
JuanTamad
07-17-2007, 9:54 PM
Very nice Orange top Marbled Angel.
ewurm
07-17-2007, 10:00 PM
Picked specifically for the Orange. Are these called Koi angels, or is that different?
JD_MAN
07-17-2007, 10:05 PM
JD_MAN was beating me in this category, some to none, so I picked one up for my community loach tank. Hopefully I can train it to protect the bubbles! LOL
lol...It took years of training. That's a good looking angel you have there.
ewurm
07-17-2007, 10:08 PM
What temp do you keep your tank at?
JuanTamad
07-17-2007, 10:14 PM
I keep my Angels at 80 - 82 degrees. They can withstand very high temps and I keep them in the garage where the temps goes up into the 90s during the day.
It's hard to tell whether it is a Koi Angel. Koi Angels have see through gill plates that makes them look like they are blushing when young. It gets covered though with irridescent pigments when they get big. Another charateristic Of Koi angels which they continue to express in adulthood is that there are no straitions on their fins. Hard to tell with your fish though due to the dark pigmentation on its fins. Typically kois do not have the amount of marbling on the their bodies as your fish.
ewurm
07-17-2007, 10:16 PM
Thanks for the info! I keep the tank at 82 anyway.
Peanut_Power
07-17-2007, 10:32 PM
Lordy!! How is it doing with the loaches? My clowns would harass the mess outa my uaru and angels...i guess they just liked the slow moving, big shaped fishies...haha. Looks amazing though!! Pertly! :D
ewurm
07-17-2007, 10:38 PM
The loaches don't bother it at all.
rallysb1tch
07-17-2007, 10:41 PM
Very nice! I'm thinking about putting some big angels in my 300.
Hopefully I can train it to protect the bubbles! LOL
:ROFL:
The angelfish is awesome.:D
scottgeeze
07-18-2007, 1:10 AM
Nice little Angelfish!
Bogwoodbruce
07-18-2007, 1:59 AM
Nice angel ewurmy boy.
ewurm
07-22-2007, 12:39 AM
Very nice angel....dead. I think my water is too hard.
Zeppelin3k
07-22-2007, 7:07 AM
angel fish are cool.....
JuanTamad
07-22-2007, 8:22 AM
Very nice angel....dead. I think my water is too hard.
Not likely.
They not only survive in hard water they also breed in it.
The only type of Angel I know that requires really soft water are wild caught Altums. Even that specie can be acclimated to hard water. Altums may not breed in hard water but they can be acclimated to it. I have six that i've kept for over three years now in Municipal water that some folks have considered to be too hard it might as well be solid rock.
I have a dozen pairs of domesticated angels breeding in the same municipal water.
They not only survive in hard water they also breed in it.
I thought so too.:)
you need some altums if your gonna go angels;)
ewurm
07-22-2007, 11:10 AM
Not likely.
They not only survive in hard water they also breed in it.
The only type of Angel I know that requires really soft water are wild caught Altums. Even that specie can be acclimated to hard water. Altums may not breed in hard water but they can be acclimated to it. I have six that i've kept for over three years now in Municipal water that some folks have considered to be too hard it might as well be solid rock.
I have a dozen pairs of domesticated angels breeding in the same municipal water.
Alright, lets figure it out.
Nitrate 20
total hardness 175 ppm
alkalinity 40 ppm
pH 6.8
temp 84 deg f
tankmates: Roseline sharks, loaches
diet: Offered flake, bloodworms
softturtle
07-22-2007, 11:20 AM
Sorry to hear about the angel. The water looks ok. Did it start eating when you brought it home? I would start with a bunch of small ones next time.
ewurm
07-22-2007, 11:44 AM
Sorry to hear about the angel. The water looks ok. Did it start eating when you brought it home? I would start with a bunch of small ones next time.
Ate a couple of bloodworms, that's about it. It was only alive for 2 days though. I dripped it for an hour. Could have been a pH swing anyway. The pH at the store is low.
JuanTamad
07-22-2007, 2:04 PM
Alright, lets figure it out.
Nitrate 20
total hardness 175 ppm
alkalinity 40 ppm
pH 6.8
temp 84 deg f
tankmates: Roseline sharks, loaches
diet: Offered flake, bloodworms
The water parameters and tankmates by themselves does not seem that they may cause problem.
You indicated that PH swing might have something to do with it in another post. That's possible, although that one hour drip might have helped acclimate them your water unless the PH swing is biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig.
Some Discus breeders actually debunk theories about PH swings causing problems. These guys actually prefer no acclimation and support with great passion that it is actually better just to flop and dump newly arrived Angel Fish in their new home. Seen them accuse veteran/professional Angel breeders as fish murderers for promoting the drip method.:WHOA:
My only concern about what happened was there was no quarantine for your newly arrived Angel. My experience with Angels is that when they are stressed they are susceptible to all kinds of problems. Typically, I quarantine them anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks before they are introduced to a tank with other fish or even other angels.
The water parameters and tankmates by themselves does not seem that they may cause problem.
You indicated that PH swing might have something to do with it in another post. That's possible, although that one hour drip might have helped acclimate them your water unless the PH swing is biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig.
Some Discus breeders actually debunk theories about PH swings causing problems. These guys actually prefer no acclimation and support with great passion that it is actually better just to flop and dump newly arrived Angel Fish in their new home. Seen them accuse veteran/professional Angel breeders as fish murderers for promoting the drip method.:WHOA:
My only concern about what happened was there was no quarantine for your newly arrived Angel. My experience with Angels is that when they are stressed they are susceptible to all kinds of problems. Typically, I quarantine them anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks before they are introduced to a tank with other fish or even other angels.
I agree that quarantine was needed, and it was missing. I don't think we'll know what happened from the params.
Wilder06
07-26-2007, 6:00 PM
Nice fish
Aquaman_95
07-26-2007, 6:06 PM
Nice Angelfish!
Nice Angelfish!
It's dead.
fourty2
07-26-2007, 7:25 PM
Gutting ewurm,was a nice looking angel..hope you have more success next time
Gutting ewurm,was a nice looking angel..hope you have more success next time
Died for no apparent reason within 24 hours. Read through the thread, all params were normal for Angels.