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WyldFya
07-24-2007, 7:16 PM
Just went to feed the Monster tank, and couldn't see through the tank. The water was very cloudy, and I could see 3 silvers all dead at the front corner. I ended up losing 4 silvers and 1 fire eel. Not as bad as it could have been, but not what I wanted to see. I am still uncertain what the cause was. I will have to restock slowly. Not a good day.
Man, that sucks chris. Sorry for your loss.
moonerlee
07-24-2007, 7:17 PM
sorry to hear that, that really bites best of luck to you though
cichlid savage
07-24-2007, 7:18 PM
That sux man! Sorry for your losses. I think I would run out into the street screaming.
WyldFya
07-24-2007, 7:21 PM
There were many plecos and a royal knife and ornate bichir that still needed saving.
Horiyoshi III
07-24-2007, 7:23 PM
Did somthing die to do this???? Why would it just be blow outs in there?Got a real nasty fish or sumthin?Somthing fall in the tank?Sabotage?No chemicals accidentaly hit the water i.e. kids,pets,wife etc.etc.
duke33
07-24-2007, 7:24 PM
i feel your loss
rallysman
07-24-2007, 7:25 PM
:( was it the dead fish that caused the cloudy water or cloudy water that caused dead fish?
I'm really sorry to read that man, I know how bad it sucks.
Gr8KarmaSF
07-24-2007, 8:25 PM
SORRY!!!
Ummmm i wonder what happened???
AwolAngler
07-24-2007, 9:05 PM
Sorry to hear man! but you have no clue what the cause was? :-/
DwarfCichlid101
07-24-2007, 9:08 PM
Thats sad to hear. GL restocking.
Bderick67
07-24-2007, 9:14 PM
Man that sucks, really sorry to hear this.
robmcd
07-24-2007, 9:20 PM
That blowz, sorry to hear that.
one7h4n9
07-24-2007, 11:39 PM
dam, sorry to hear about it. If you find out or think of any cause let us know.
cichlid savage
07-24-2007, 11:47 PM
Any idea of what happened?
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 2:22 AM
I still have no idea what caused the deaths. The water was crystal clear yesterday, and the filter is still running like a champ. Nobody, but me, goes into the room where this tank is kept, and there were no chemicals that would affect these guys, but not the other inhabitants. I'm at a complete loss. I don't know whether the fish caused the cloudiness, or the other way around. However, this does mean I get some new monsters, hopefully a black aro is in the future.
*KrAmEr*
07-25-2007, 3:22 AM
Maybe the fish went nuts and started darting around the tank killing themselves and stirring up the substrate in the process.....
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 3:39 AM
The substrate is clean, and has been clean for a long time. I use the eheim gravel washer once a week to keep substrates clean.
4 Silvers.. bro.. you know better! How monster is monster?
Sorry 'bout your losses, but maybe it was a sign!
Come up to NWSP in Spokane and take the 2' Silver, 2' TSN, 2' Royal Knife, and 2' Clown knife they all have stuffed into a 150g!
StiffMeister
07-25-2007, 3:40 AM
that sucks man, sorry for your losses.
The substrate is clean, and has been clean for a long time. I use the eheim gravel washer once a week to keep substrates clean.
Is that the battery operated gravel vaccuum? I was curious how effecient it was as I was going to buy a few for tank maintenance in my store. :)
Possible Ammonia spike somehow?
What's your pH run?
The higher the pH, the more toxic the ammonia.. Could of been a quick downward spiral effect if you had 1 fish (or pleco) pass on you.. Assuming you don't feed live feeders.. but I have seen alot of predators puke up live feeders from overeating, causing ammonia spikes..
but you know all this crap..
Evergreen has a Albino Giant Gourami and some nice Vampire Plecs ;)
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 3:44 AM
Yup the battery operated one. It is an amazing tool, and is very good for cleaning tanks substrates (especially planted tanks if they are deep enough.)
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 3:45 AM
Possible Ammonia spike somehow?
What's your pH run?
The higher the pH, the more toxic the ammonia.. Could of been a quick downward spiral effect if you had 1 fish (or pleco) pass on you.. Assuming you don't feed live feeders.. but I have seen alot of predators puke up live feeders from overeating, causing ammonia spikes..
but you know all this crap..
Evergreen has a Albino Giant Gourami and some nice Vampire Plecs ;)
It is very hard to say if the ammonia spiked causing the aros and the fire eel to die, or if they died of some other cause, and because of them the ammonia spiked.
Alex.P
07-25-2007, 3:49 AM
Sorry for your loss, any signs of a power cut or something, did you clean out your filter resently?
Maybe a pleco died and was out of sight.. took a few days for the Ammonia to get high enough, and then wiped out everyone overnight.. Tough call.
What size tank was it?
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 3:56 AM
Cleaning the filter doesn't affect this tank as the Pro 3 that is running it has more than enough bio media in it, that rinsing the pads doesn't cause a cycle at all.
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 3:57 AM
Maybe a pleco died and was out of sight.. took a few days for the Ammonia to get high enough, and then wiped out everyone overnight.. Tough call.
What size tank was it?
This was in my 300. All the plecos are alive and accounted for. That was my first thought, but everyone is accounted for. My guess is something happened to the fire eel, who has never been big on eating.
Probably buried himself in the substrate and starved to death.. had a hard time competing for food?
I found out (the hard way) that eels release a surprisingly LARGE amount of bioload.. Killed those 2 huge 4 foot SA Swamp Eels that way.. added them to my 375g and overnight had an Ammonia spike, infecting and killing them both within a day or two..
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 4:09 AM
He didn't even try to compete for food. I'm not 100% sure though. I did find him floating at the surface.
ben&debbie
07-25-2007, 6:50 AM
so sorry....
I blame it on the eel 99%.. when the big SA swamp eels died, they released a huge ammonia spike and the entire fish room smelt like dead fish.. Had to do a series of 200g water changes to fix it. Damaged a few of the cichlids in the tank (cloudy eye), but would imagine it would have harsher effects on the Aros..
PM next time your in town.. Have you been to Aquarium Solutions yet? Shes the one who breeds Zplecs
Sorry to here that mate, tis unfortunate. Best of luck with your new enhabitants next time around.
Red Devil
07-25-2007, 10:04 AM
i just saw this thread and i am shocked at your losses..especially that there is no substantial reason for it.. if i found all those silvers floating i would be sick.. what a loss.. very sorry wyldfya ...:(
andsco
07-25-2007, 1:35 PM
Sorry for your loss.
E-mail or PM me when you want Black Aros.
Plenty here in Seattle.
filiportela
07-25-2007, 1:40 PM
that sucks!!!
i woke up today and my arowana tank wasn't working, the pump was not working, i looked down and it was my mbu puffer that was in the 1st section of the sump that dedided to go thrue the maze in the sump and ended up dead, stuck in a 5800 liters per hour pump... i was devastated...:(
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 1:46 PM
Sorry for your loss.
E-mail or PM me when you want Black Aros.
Plenty here in Seattle.
What kind of prices can you get? I have a few sources here that I can get them from for quite cheap.
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 1:46 PM
Sorry to here that mate, tis unfortunate. Best of luck with your new enhabitants next time around.
Thanks davo. I'm thinking I need to get a nice fat pleco to make up for this.
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 1:48 PM
I blame it on the eel 99%.. when the big SA swamp eels died, they released a huge ammonia spike and the entire fish room smelt like dead fish.. Had to do a series of 200g water changes to fix it. Damaged a few of the cichlids in the tank (cloudy eye), but would imagine it would have harsher effects on the Aros..
PM next time your in town.. Have you been to Aquarium Solutions yet? Shes the one who breeds Zplecs
Ironically I was just up in your neck just yesterday. I've been aquarium solutions many times, and it is not good for my wallet when I do. Barbie is a great lady, and her shop is too much fun. I'll get a message to you somehow next time I'm up your way.
Bsixxx
07-25-2007, 1:52 PM
sucks
:(
sorry for the losses
meiling
07-25-2007, 3:30 PM
Chris, so sorry that happened. I know how much that must have hurt, damn. Sometimes we think we do everything right (or we pretty much do everything right) and we still lose them. So sorry bud-Briana:)
that really sucks, i hate losing fish and having lost a lot of them recently i know how you feel.
WyldFya
07-25-2007, 6:51 PM
that really sucks, i hate losing fish and having lost a lot of them recently i know how you feel.
One of the worst feelings... Walking in to see your arowanas all dead. :cry:
OnTarget45
07-25-2007, 9:40 PM
so sorry fro your loss...nothing worse than losing healthy fish...i lost whole 90gal tank full of lamp. sp. when we went on vacation one year and a friend was feeding the fish. power went out and filters never re-primed...almost cried....felt like puking...luckily now one of my best friends family owns a couple of LFS so i'm pretty safe when we go away..
HiGhTiMeZ
07-25-2007, 10:55 PM
damn man im so sorry for what happened.
Miguel
07-26-2007, 1:31 AM
What a waste.Sorry! HAs happened to me once.I know what you're feeling...
WyldFya
07-26-2007, 1:33 AM
Ironically I'm thinking more about what I want to stock the tank with rather than the loss. The loss is behind me now. It is unfortunate, but it is part of the game. I'm thinking about ordering a couple black aros. :D
Tongue33
07-26-2007, 1:33 AM
:(
ani-mal-lvr
07-26-2007, 2:07 AM
So sorry for your losses Fya....:wall:
A couple of nice fat plecos wood put a smile onyer face tho. (think large pseudas);)
andsco
07-26-2007, 11:16 AM
WyldFya,
Wait till the meet and you can see them at Little Amazon.
WyldFya
07-26-2007, 12:30 PM
I'll be looking at them there, but I can get them for a great price here usually. Cost will be the deciding factor.
Aquaman_95
07-26-2007, 12:32 PM
That does suck! Sorry for your loss
Monstaf1sh
07-27-2007, 8:37 AM
I heard a story about a catfish had spewed up its food into the tank and poluted the water, all fish were lost overnight could this be a possibility?
WyldFya
07-27-2007, 1:34 PM
It has already been talked about, and the entire tank did not die. There were no catfish, and the fish were not fed on feeders.