View Full Version : biggest polypterus I have seen
mercury904
07-25-2007, 7:22 AM
I found this pic here in MFK and I just forgot to whom I got it from,Is there any of you who has a bichir this big? or maybe close to this? cause it is freakin huge!:WHOA: post some pics guys!:headbang2
Wow..
What species? Congicus? I dont know polys well..
Yeah, think it is a congicus, There are more pics of it. I don't think it is a members bichir, just a web picture that has been posted a few times. I have it on my computer too.
mercury904
07-25-2007, 8:43 AM
maybe this is wild caught or pond raised
WHOA That's a monster poly! Is that a Chinese Perch in the background?
RexFish
07-25-2007, 10:26 AM
WOW! That poly is big
JESToner
07-25-2007, 12:24 PM
heres another shot
sicxspeed
07-25-2007, 12:33 PM
holy ****!
BichirAddict
07-25-2007, 12:39 PM
Gar is a giant along with the poly
beblondie
07-25-2007, 12:39 PM
Yes its a P.e.congicus and that pic has been around for several years in fact its been posted here before.
big ain't it lol
rallysman
07-25-2007, 12:58 PM
WHOA That's a monster poly! Is that a Chinese Perch in the background?
Yes sir! I'm more impressed with the perch:D He's a looker!
Fishes33
07-25-2007, 1:06 PM
how old is that poly?
and how long it needed to grow into that size?
demjor19
07-25-2007, 1:07 PM
gotta love the gator gar too! that poly is a giant though! is that normal size for an adult congicus?
Bsixxx
07-25-2007, 1:08 PM
:OMG:
look at those gator gars in the background
:0
beblondie
07-25-2007, 1:17 PM
under ideal conditions P.e.congicus max out at 36-39 inches.
As for its age theres really no way to tell except to say its old to be that big
PhullTank57
07-25-2007, 1:26 PM
Toyin brought in a whopper size congicus, not too long ago. A little over 2 feet, I think.
A shame that it came in DOA tho... A real big shame. That thing was a beast... check out the teeth on that girl! :eek:
demjor19
07-25-2007, 1:27 PM
thats really cool! i had no idea polys got that big!
sr20det510
07-25-2007, 2:18 PM
That thing is huge!
I wonder what they feed it
David R
07-25-2007, 3:04 PM
thats really cool! i had no idea polys got that big!
Or had teeth that big!!!!!!
Infblue
07-25-2007, 3:41 PM
btw i think those are tropical gars, not gators.
Andri Pogo
07-25-2007, 4:31 PM
wow, gotta get me one of those :O
demjor19
07-25-2007, 4:50 PM
btw i think those are tropical gars, not gators.
gator gar
estuary
07-25-2007, 4:57 PM
thats a big bichir wow
Infblue
07-25-2007, 6:47 PM
gator gar
could be...still not completely convinced :D esp. the first one...
demjor19
07-25-2007, 6:58 PM
could be...still not completely convinced :D esp. the first one...
owning a tropical gar i would hope i could id one. also that would probably be a world record trop. i have never heard of one reaching that size. they max out in the wild around 3-3.5 feet. usually much smaller in aquaria.
Infblue
07-25-2007, 7:25 PM
i have t gars too...i know what you're saying with the size though. same thing with bichirs...i would say that the congicus in the pic is about 30"+, and those gars look to be about same size....
ThePBM
07-25-2007, 7:37 PM
I think you should take into account that your reference for size is a couple of asian people. We are not known to be the largest of people. Just sayin.
elykyelsna
07-25-2007, 8:32 PM
how many people here own a congicus? im hoping my female endlicheri gets a decent size, i remember seeing pictures on some japanese website with some endlicheri endlicheri at around 2'
mercury904
07-25-2007, 11:30 PM
keep posting those monstrous polypterous:headbang2 those are really dinosaurs/dinofish:D
plausible
07-26-2007, 11:53 AM
big!
killerfish
07-26-2007, 2:35 PM
there is more then one gar in the tank but they both look like alligators the gar in the first pic with its head blocked by the bichir is much larger then the bichir i would say by size its def a gator plus look at there heads
Sabre_Tooth
07-26-2007, 2:42 PM
Heres some pics :)
Sabre_Tooth
07-26-2007, 2:45 PM
BTW, hes an alligator gar.
dovii88
07-26-2007, 4:50 PM
wow big congy, nice sized gator
Andri Pogo
07-26-2007, 7:44 PM
talking about big polys.... what species gets bigger then the other ?
i only have a senegal and would like some bigger :P
csx4236
07-26-2007, 8:02 PM
those are tropical gars
csx4236
07-26-2007, 8:04 PM
They are definetly tropical gars no way are they alligator, I have a customer who has 3 36" trops and there identical nose and all.
beblondie
07-26-2007, 8:56 PM
Andri,
here ya go -Anne
Species and sizes
maximum known sizes often smaller in captivity
Upper Jaw Species-Upper jaw protrudes past lower jaw
P. palmas palmas ('palmas' bichir)- 13"
(subspecies)P. palmas polli ('marbled bichir)- 14"
(subspecies) P. palmas buettikoferi ('buettikoferi' bichir)- 13"
P. ornatipinnis ('ornate' bichir)- 27"
P. delhezi ('armoured' or 'delhez's' bichir)- 14"
P. senegalus senegalus ('Senegal' or 'Cuiver's' bichir)- 12"
(possible subspecies)P. senegalus meridionalis- 12"+
There is, Also the possibility of a third member of the Polypterus senegalus
group that is found in the Nile River
P. retropinnis ('retropinnis' bichir)- 14"
P .mokelembembe
P. weeksi ('week's' bichir)- 20"
P.teugelsi (found only in the Cross river)-16.75''
E. calabaricus ('Ropefish')- 15"-30" (Closer to 15''-20'' in captivity)
Lower Jaw Species-Lower protrudes past upper jaw
P. endlicheri endlicheri ('saddled' or 'red' bichir)- 32", possibly more
(subspecies)P. endlicheri congicus ('giant' or 'congo' bichir)- 39"
P. Bichir lapradei ('Lapradei' bichir)- 24"
P. bichir bichir-30+ ''
P.ansorgii
Polypterus
07-26-2007, 9:17 PM
On the gar issue: very likely a big Tropicus...I still give at least a 10% chance on a Gator though...Hard to say as every photo is fragmented and it is hard to see the fish fully.
check out the teeth on that girl! :eek:
That pic gave me shivers.:eek:
demjor19
07-26-2007, 10:15 PM
On the gar issue: very likely a big Tropicus...I still give at least a 10% chance on a Gator though...Hard to say as every photo is fragmented and it is hard to see the fish fully.
wow! that is a huge trop if it is in fact one. he looks to be over 3' to me.
could he have been wild caught at that size or do you think he was a captive bred/raised gar.
demjor19
07-26-2007, 10:19 PM
btw i think those are tropical gars, not gators.
good call man! i was totally thinking gator gar!
csx4236
07-26-2007, 11:12 PM
I hear they can get 4ft in the wild so most likely that guy was in a pond for awhile and put on some serious size. That is the biggest one i have ever seen
Cohazard
07-27-2007, 1:50 AM
man that congi is sooo hardcore!
That picture is how I found MFK back in the day!
Loubard
07-27-2007, 2:44 AM
If you like big polypterus check this out: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44354
plausible
07-27-2007, 2:49 AM
any chance if that is a p.bichir bichir? its japanese and in another thread someone posted that more p.bichir bichir keepers are located in japan
pirarucu319
07-27-2007, 3:52 AM
that was big and awesome..
which one i guess..
isn'it th yellow one
how old is he??
Loubard
07-27-2007, 4:51 AM
Nope, that's def. P. e. c.
beblondie
07-27-2007, 9:23 AM
how old is he??
Unless you get one very young its impossible to tell while its still alive.On some fish species you can count the rings on their scales (kinda like tree rings)this doesn't apply to most tropical fish.For tropicals you'd have to count
something in the innner ear -Anne
Sabre_Tooth
07-27-2007, 12:53 PM
The Biggest one is a gator gar, the smaller one is a cuban gar.
ethnics
07-27-2007, 1:15 PM
ahhhh yes, the pic that inspired me to get an endli.
csx4236
07-27-2007, 3:16 PM
The Biggest one is a gator gar, the smaller one is a cuban gar.
Dude none of them are gator gars trust me, there all tropical gars and yes one is a cuban gar.
David R
07-27-2007, 11:44 PM
If you like big polypterus check this out: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44354
What are the white ones in the 7th pic??
Keeper of the Ropes
07-30-2007, 1:58 AM
Off the gar topic... and back to the bichir in the fish...
Anyone (I hope yall don't jump on me for sayin this) think it's kind of ugly? Yes, I realize it's absolutely massive and deserves awe and respect solely based on it's size... but how about that coloration (or lack of)? I dno - I know it's a Cong, but the colors just remind me of a drab looking senegal. Do ALL lowerjaw species lose their coloration and stripes when they max out in size?
Keeper
no i don't think they all of a sudden go all washed out when they reach full size. some of it is probably that the fish wasn't the prettiest when small, but also, that fish must be pretty damn old, and i'm sure they'll lose a little pattern when they get OLD.
David R
07-30-2007, 2:16 AM
Anyone (I hope yall don't jump on me for sayin this) think it's kind of ugly?
Not me, I love it for the size and look, if I wanted pretty colours I'd keep discus or marines. ;)
On the topic of huge bichirs, I stumbled across this collection of pics today: http://imageevent.com/codomo/polypterusendlichericongicus
Amazing looking collection, I'm so jealous! Does anyone know who's they are??
Cohazard
07-30-2007, 2:32 AM
Not me, I love it for the size and look, if I wanted pretty colours I'd keep discus or marines. ;)
On the topic of huge bichirs, I stumbled across this collection of pics today: http://imageevent.com/codomo/polypterusendlichericongicus
Amazing looking collection, I'm so jealous! Does anyone know who's they are??
I agree with you David, I like that congi's look. :thumbsup:
I do know who's photos those are, the posters handle is "CDM". Mostly active over at .water.wolves.
Infblue
07-30-2007, 11:36 AM
Anyone (I hope yall don't jump on me for sayin this) think it's kind of ugly? Yes, I realize it's absolutely massive and deserves awe and respect solely based on it's size... but how about that coloration (or lack of)? I dno - I know it's a Cong, but the colors just remind me of a drab looking senegal. Do ALL lowerjaw species lose their coloration and stripes when they max out in size?
Keeper
i actually like the color/pattern (or lack of) of this congicus a lot. i've always wanted a yellowish congicus with very faint to nonexistent stripes.
E_americanus
07-30-2007, 11:48 AM
just had to get in my two cents on the gars... (most likely) big tropicals...very big :)
that's an awesome congicus...wish i could get one that big! i haven't seen mine eat for over a year now!!!--
--solomon
TRYLSTEG808
08-02-2007, 12:48 AM
whoa that f***en huge!!!!!! i've been waiting to see a pic of a full grown bichir
Loubard
08-02-2007, 5:44 AM
i haven't seen mine eat for over a year now!!!--
--solomon
Weird, mine are eating monsters, in the morning, afternoon, night...they don't care. There are out eating all the other bichir and growing like there's no tomorrow.
MonsterFishKeeper2007
08-02-2007, 8:47 PM
Wow =O thats one giant polypterus!! lol xD So is that the biggest poly out their? And whats the range of these polys lenght? or how long do they get?
Cohazard
08-03-2007, 1:38 AM
Andri,
here ya go -Anne
Species and sizes
maximum known sizes often smaller in captivity
Upper Jaw Species-Upper jaw protrudes past lower jaw
P. palmas palmas ('palmas' bichir)- 13"
(subspecies)P. palmas polli ('marbled bichir)- 14"
(subspecies) P. palmas buettikoferi ('buettikoferi' bichir)- 13"
P. ornatipinnis ('ornate' bichir)- 27"
P. delhezi ('armoured' or 'delhez's' bichir)- 14"
P. senegalus senegalus ('Senegal' or 'Cuiver's' bichir)- 12"
(possible subspecies)P. senegalus meridionalis- 12"+
There is, Also the possibility of a third member of the Polypterus senegalus
group that is found in the Nile River
P. retropinnis ('retropinnis' bichir)- 14"
P .mokelembembe
P. weeksi ('week's' bichir)- 20"
P.teugelsi (found only in the Cross river)-16.75''
E. calabaricus ('Ropefish')- 15"-30" (Closer to 15''-20'' in captivity)
Lower Jaw Species-Lower protrudes past upper jaw
P. endlicheri endlicheri ('saddled' or 'red' bichir)- 32", possibly more
(subspecies)P. endlicheri congicus ('giant' or 'congo' bichir)- 39"
P. Bichir lapradei ('Lapradei' bichir)- 24"
P. bichir bichir-30+ ''
P.ansorgii
Are these SL sizes?
Because Toyin has 18-20" tegelsi's, but I don't know if he's using SL or TL
Infblue
08-03-2007, 10:23 AM
i think toyin's measurement is TL. reason numbers are different is because of the small number of specimens captured to date, we can only guesstimate and base its size on the largest specimen seen so far. and probably when anne put that list together, the largest was 16.75" +/-
Loubard
08-03-2007, 4:05 PM
2 of mine are 20" for shure.
MonsterFishKeeper2007
08-12-2007, 1:59 PM
wow thats Huge!!!... Man that has to be like over 240 gallon at least maybe 300 or more lol 0.0
thats a monster.. how old is it? and what is it eating ...lol
silverknight
08-13-2007, 11:02 AM
that is huge even if the asian people are little bitty.
odalisay
08-13-2007, 12:14 PM
i actually like the color/pattern (or lack of) of this congicus a lot. i've always wanted a yellowish congicus with very faint to nonexistent stripes.
I actually have 2 of these type of congicus. Will get some pics up.
arosvios
08-17-2007, 1:05 AM
Thats got to be the biggest endy i have ever seen! Cos down here in s'pore, there was a place in geylang, a monster fishes collectors shop, housed a few big endies! Biggest ard 2.5ft, but those black strips all faded off! Can only see the base colour of them!
Red tail catking
05-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Can any one tell me were I can get one of these beast? I have a nice 16' foot indoor pond that needs some monster stocking.:headbang2 (What I mean is there a vendor on here that sells them?)
wow, gotta get me one of those :O
Im maybe gettin one, a 5 incher!:)
Red tail catking
05-24-2008, 1:24 PM
Cures you:D Where U getting it?
brandon1393
05-24-2008, 1:58 PM
WoW what a monster tank all the fish LOOK AMAZING
Cures you:D Where U getting it?
I know a guy who has 2, he is ready too give one too me.:)
Bogwoodbruce
05-24-2008, 4:16 PM
That Poly is insane,
brandon1393
05-24-2008, 7:42 PM
just monsterouse
Red tail catking
05-24-2008, 10:53 PM
I know a guy who has 2, he is ready too give one too me.:)
I'm happy now, I'm getting ready to buy one very soon.:)