View Full Version : Who has the biggest endi in MFK?
aapl76
05-10-2005, 10:45 AM
hi!!! brudders and sistas.....
anyone of you have got turbo big endi pixs to share with me....i have yet to see super duper big endi b4...not to mention those around 16" to 18"... :)
aapl76
05-10-2005, 10:49 AM
some big turbo bichirs...... :)
wow... I want those... what kind of bichir is that???... that lady look like one of my sister....lol....
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 11:11 AM
wow... I want those... what kind of bichir is that???... that lady look like one of my sister....lol....
the one on top is a senagal bichir while the ones at the bottom are endlicheris
aapl76
05-10-2005, 11:19 AM
wow... I want those... what kind of bichir is that???... that lady look like one of my sister....lol....
hmmmm!!! i guess brudder IoStrisciare has already answered your question... :)
truman
05-10-2005, 11:34 AM
i think the pictures too blur to determin, but the top birchir can't be senagalus... they don't get anywhere near that size.
aapl76
05-10-2005, 11:39 AM
i think the pictures too blur to determin, but the top birchir can't be senagalus... they don't get anywhere near that size.
hmmmm!!! the expert is here....then can it be a endi congicus? :)
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 11:41 AM
i think the pictures too blur to determin, but the top birchir can't be senagalus... they don't get anywhere near that size.
It is... i have seen this pic before....
owner states its a senagal with alligator gar.
truman
05-10-2005, 11:45 AM
:screwy: :hitting: :newbie: Then its one huge snegalus.
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 11:50 AM
:screwy: :hitting: :newbie: Then its one huge snegalus.
not everything goes according to what books say.
Books say the carapo knife fish maximum length is 12inches. Yet i have seen at least 2 specimens of 14 inches already.
Can anyone confirm the maximum size of any animal?
its that simple. Furthermore, one very simple thing.... water magnifies everything.
truman
05-10-2005, 12:04 PM
true about the water thing...
I don't know, books really can be inaccurate, that's why they are updated from time to time with more valid data.
My Campbelli community is getting along more or less okay, books/websites say they are agressive. Guess it is based on the observer and the writer's observations.
yea well 2 inches is different then 2.5 feet (largest senegaul ive seen with my own eyes is 10 maybe 12in)
no way in gods hell that this bichir is a senegaul , maybe it was bought as a senegaul?
aapl76
05-10-2005, 12:16 PM
It is... i have seen this pic before....
owner states its a senagal with alligator gar.
btw, thats not alligator gar...thats cuban... :)
aapl76
05-10-2005, 12:18 PM
so how??? can anyone verify whether is this a senegal? :confused:
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 12:20 PM
btw, thats not alligator gar...thats cuban... :)
mag i saw in taiwan was mentionin it was alligator....
The TRUST
05-10-2005, 1:30 PM
The big Polypterus in the first pic if definitely not P. Sengalus. They don't get that big and the head is all wrong too. IMO I think that is a P. endlicheri Endlicheri. It might be P. Endlicheri Congicus but most congicus I have seen are just long and not thick. So I am leaning towards P. endlicheri Endlicheri with this one having less markings that usual.
P. endlicheri Endlicheri .... I think I have 6 of them (if the right Li???)..... only 10" ... wonder how long th get them that big???
The TRUST
05-10-2005, 1:45 PM
Non stop feeders. If you want fish to grow fast. it's always non stop feeders. In all the MFk books I seen, most of the Endlicheri keepers feed feeders
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 1:55 PM
The big Polypterus in the first pic if definitely not P. Sengalus. They don't get that big and the head is all wrong too. IMO I think that is a P. endlicheri Endlicheri. It might be P. Endlicheri Congicus but most congicus I have seen are just long and not thick. So I am leaning towards P. endlicheri Endlicheri with this one having less markings that usual.
i don't think that is endlicheri endlicheri... unless its albino....
congicus coloration but the face doesnt seem right to me....
IoStrisciare
05-10-2005, 1:55 PM
Non stop feeders. If you want fish to grow fast. it's always non stop feeders. In all the MFk books I seen, most of the Endlicheri keepers feed feeders
Recommended feeder if you want to bulk up....
juvenile bull frogs...
My biggest endy in my tank now is a 15 inches male.
The TRUST
05-10-2005, 3:37 PM
I must have taken some stupid pills today. I what I meant was I think that the big Polypterus is P. Endlicheri Congicus and not P. endlicheri endlicheri. Since it doesn't have any markings. It looks like the ones shown in the Jurassic Fish book.
I second that its a P. endlicheri congicus. Its far too large to be a senegal.
Personally i think it looks like a fake though.
rayman45
05-10-2005, 9:54 PM
i dont like endi's at all
truman
05-10-2005, 10:46 PM
Whi;e on the subject of giant birchirs, Could it be Birchir birchir in that picture?
Then again, birchir birchir has definatel stripes down its body, so unless its an extremely pale individual.
aapl76
05-11-2005, 9:25 AM
hahahaa...so which is which...???? :)
aapl76
05-11-2005, 9:29 AM
mag i saw in taiwan was mentionin it was alligator....
maybe printing error lah...kekekeke..obviously cuban gar what.... :)
The TRUST
05-11-2005, 10:51 AM
hahahaa...so which is which...???? :)
P. Endlicheri Congicus
Gamble
05-11-2005, 10:58 AM
P. Endlicheri Congicus
yup. the wild caught ones are huge! :22_yikes:
The TRUST
05-11-2005, 11:05 AM
yup. the wild caught ones are huge! :22_yikes:
Yup the Japanese get all the good stuff.
aapl76
05-11-2005, 11:28 AM
P. Endlicheri Congicus
just as what i expected.... :)
PhullTank57
05-11-2005, 2:06 PM
P. endlicheri congicus... in the top pic. :grinyes:
a couple old pics of my ex 18"+ P. endlicheri endlicheri... Now regretting I ever getting rid of him!! :wall: :(
Damn, Jack! I miss that guy too. (I raised it from 13-16 inches.) :(
PhullTank57
05-11-2005, 2:40 PM
Damn, Jack! I miss that guy too. (I raised it from 13-16 inches.)
I know, Jesse... this endly really had an outgoing, non-skittish, calm personality! It was always active, and cruising around. :headbang2 Btw, hey Jes,,, have you seen my video in the fish 'movies' section yet?... check out the Endly cruising! Peep & enjoy!! :thumbsup:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/581/cat/520/page/1 (http://)
i think machete has the biggest (on WW) at 20-24in
PhullTank57
05-11-2005, 3:20 PM
i think that was an ornate bichir (Polypterus ornatipinnis)...?? not P. endlicheri endlicheri? :confused:
Correct me if I'm wrong tho?... :headbang2
neoprodigy
05-11-2005, 3:24 PM
i think that was an ornate bichir (Polypterus ornatipinnis)...?? not P. endlicheri endlicheri? :confused:
Correct me if I'm wrong tho?... :headbang2
yup he got an ornate bichir...
I second that its a P. endlicheri congicus. Its far too large to be a senegal.
Personally i think it looks like a fake though.
Yeah, it definately a congicus.
cougar579
05-11-2005, 10:07 PM
my endli is 14 in but he is growin quickly
Jesse
05-12-2005, 12:15 AM
I know, Jesse... this endly really had an outgoing, non-skittish, calm personality! It was always active, and cruising around. :headbang2 Btw, hey Jes,,, have you seen my video in the fish 'movies' section yet?... check out the Endly cruising! Peep & enjoy!! :thumbsup:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/581/cat/520/page/1 (http://)
Jack, that link doesn't work for me. :(
Yeah, that guy was a great endy, but it kept eating all my fish. Now that I have more tanks, I have 5 endlicheri ranging from 11 to 14 inches. None are as active as my/your old one though.
Jack, that link doesn't work for me. :(
Yeah, that guy was a great endy, but it kept eating all my fish. Now that I have more tanks, I have 5 endlicheri ranging from 11 to 14 inches. None are as active as my/your old one though.
Infact, most endlihceri are calm, active endlicheri is rare. It's nice to see it cruising around. It's too bad you have to let go it.
aapl76
05-12-2005, 7:22 AM
P. endlicheri congicus... in the top pic. :grinyes:
a couple old pics of my ex 18"+ P. endlicheri endlicheri... Now regretting I ever getting rid of him!! :wall: :(
turbo to the max.... :)
I have one endlicheri that is abt 18"
aapl76
05-12-2005, 8:35 AM
I have one endlicheri that is abt 18"
is it fat? do you have any pixs? :)
rayman45
05-12-2005, 8:45 AM
yea can you get something next to it for size refernce
rayman45
05-12-2005, 8:45 AM
like fattness
is it fat? do you have any pixs? :)
I'll try to take one and post, juz join ths forum.
Are u from AF , the same appl76, I m the same Ariel from there too.
rayman45
05-12-2005, 8:59 AM
im regsterded for af,
i dot really post there any more b/c i dont have any aros any more
but around a years ago, i hade plenty of aro's.
im rayman45 from the other fish boards.
aapl76
05-12-2005, 9:01 AM
I'll try to take one and post, juz join ths forum.
Are u from AF , the same appl76, I m the same Ariel from there too.
yupzzz...i am from AF.... :welcome:
aapl76
05-12-2005, 9:02 AM
im regsterded for af,
i dot really post there any more b/c i dont have any aros any more
but around a years ago, i hade plenty of aro's.
im rayman45 from the other fish boards.
i cccccccc.....not into aros anymore?
rayman45
05-12-2005, 9:02 AM
there is plenty of af here.
rayman45
05-12-2005, 9:03 AM
i might buy another asian aro when i can clear up some tank space
aapl76
05-12-2005, 9:11 AM
i might buy another asian aro when i can clear up some tank space
will be waiting to see your babe soon.... :)
Just posted some pics, check my gallery :D
aapl76
05-16-2005, 2:14 AM
Just posted some pics, check my gallery :D
hmmm....quite fat...
armed2teeth
05-16-2005, 2:36 AM
Back to the topic of this thread..... Count dorsal spines! There you go. senegal :wall:
HuttShun
05-16-2005, 3:37 AM
they should be endlicheri , canot be senegalus. senegalus the most have 9 spines on their back. endy have at least 11 on their back
Back to the topic of this thread..... Count dorsal spines! There you go. senegal :wall:
Dont understand wat r u trying to say, except ur head banging the wall :rofl:
hmmm....quite fat...
Use to be fatter, shifted 3mth+, slim down abit liao
aapl76
05-16-2005, 9:13 AM
Use to be fatter, shifted 3mth+, slim down abit liao
then its time to pump her up again.... :naughty:
then its time to pump her up again.... :naughty:
Problem is it dont eat much now, I always put lots of koi feeder in the tank, bought the big packet from pasir ris, 1"+ koi feeder after ~3mths become ~3", still have many there :wall:
piranha45
05-16-2005, 9:26 PM
an active endy, sold?! heretic!!
armed2teeth
05-17-2005, 6:42 AM
Ariel:
Doesn't it seem obvious how to determine what species that huge bicir is? Although books can be wrong wouldn't it make more sense to refer back to scientific publications rather than going by word-of-mouth? Im sure we all have experienced blatant labiling errors by LFS's. Is it hard to believe that the owner might just take their word for it? We're fairly experienced fish keepers right? We should know where to find the information we need. Im not trying to rip on anyone but it bothers me that so many would settle for word-of-mouth when we could just make an educated descision for ourselves. So that is where the :wall: comes in. But hey don't listen to me I like fish all my friends say look like lazy sausages.
aapl76
05-17-2005, 9:03 AM
Problem is it dont eat much now, I always put lots of koi feeder in the tank, bought the big packet from pasir ris, 1"+ koi feeder after ~3mths become ~3", still have many there :wall:
i guess you gotta have patience then.... :)
Ariel
05-17-2005, 10:47 AM
Ariel:
Doesn't it seem obvious how to determine what species that huge bicir is? Although books can be wrong wouldn't it make more sense to refer back to scientific publications rather than going by word-of-mouth? Im sure we all have experienced blatant labiling errors by LFS's. Is it hard to believe that the owner might just take their word for it? We're fairly experienced fish keepers right? We should know where to find the information we need. Im not trying to rip on anyone but it bothers me that so many would settle for word-of-mouth when we could just make an educated descision for ourselves. So that is where the :wall: comes in. But hey don't listen to me I like fish all my friends say look like lazy sausages.
Can u kindly show me the pic, still dont under which fish u r referring to?
Back to the topic of this thread..... Count dorsal spines! There you go. senegal :wall:
If u r referring to first pic in#1, well , it shd be endlicheri, might be a endlicheri congicus, reasons being:
1) size, senegal dont have this size, congicus can go up to 39"
2)lower jaw, only endlicheri sp, p endlicheri endlicheri or p endlicheri congicus have this type of jaw( lower jaw more prominent)
What do u think?
armed2teeth
05-18-2005, 1:14 AM
If u r referring to first pic in#1, well , it shd be endlicheri, might be a endlicheri congicus, reasons being:
1) size, senegal dont have this size, congicus can go up to 39"
2)lower jaw, only endlicheri sp, p endlicheri endlicheri or p endlicheri congicus have this type of jaw( lower jaw more prominent)
What do u think?
Im leaning towards congicus becuase of the absense of stripes. I've never seen pictures of e. endlicheris lacking those stripes. Then again Ive never seen one that big, Im tempted to say that that picture could be doctor'd (I hope not). I was looking through the Polypterus Aqualog book and saw a huge 24" bichir with stripes, that they were calling a congicus and not endli like I thought it was. So as long as we got the right sub species and not a mutant freak senagal I can live with that.
truman
05-18-2005, 3:01 AM
Pardon my ignorance
But isn't P. bichir bichr capable of 120cm/40+ inches
The head structure alone might classify it towards the family of bichirs with large heads and underslung lowerjaws.
I am quite sure that P bichir bichir is capable of that cream colour.
Ariel
05-18-2005, 10:01 AM
Im leaning towards congicus becuase of the absense of stripes. I've never seen pictures of e. endlicheris lacking those stripes. Then again Ive never seen one that big, Im tempted to say that that picture could be doctor'd (I hope not). I was looking through the Polypterus Aqualog book and saw a huge 24" bichir with stripes, that they were calling a congicus and not endli like I thought it was. So as long as we got the right sub species and not a mutant freak senagal I can live with that.
It was extracted from the monster fish keepers book, which volume, I m not sure, these r japanese owner(SMALL SIZE, :lol: ), dont think its doctored.
xPe_MONeYx
09-30-2009, 5:44 PM
huge
bichirbichir
10-01-2009, 11:27 AM
It is... i have seen this pic before....
owner states its a senagal with alligator gar.
that particular piece is a congicus. at 3ft length.
Andri Pogo
10-02-2009, 5:46 PM
yes, thats a congicus, end of discussion :D
Thread derail of the month, 8 pages and not a single pic of some MFK´s Endlies.
wolfsburgfanatic
10-04-2009, 3:17 AM
Thread derail of the month, 8 pages and not a single pic of some MFK´s Endlies.
I must agree... this thread dissapoints :(
OK, here's one big endy~66cm (26"+)
http://photos.imageevent.com/codomo/bichirs/980915/large/980915118.JPG
bichirbichir
10-06-2009, 11:34 PM
yes, thats a congicus, end of discussion :D
Thread derail of the month, 8 pages and not a single pic of some MFK´s Endlies.
ok no worries. i have imported a wild caught endi standing at around 27inches. will update pics once it stabilizes ok? :D
shamrock
10-10-2009, 12:05 AM
My is around 6 inches-is it me or do these guys grow really slow?
Chaitika
10-11-2009, 12:30 PM
OK, here's one big endy~66cm (26"+)
http://photos.imageevent.com/codomo/bichirs/980915/large/980915118.JPG
At 16", mine is just a baby in comparison, lol...
shamrock
10-11-2009, 6:19 PM
Anyone do they grow slow?
Chaitika
10-11-2009, 6:49 PM
Anyone do they grow slow?
Once they hit the 15" mark, they seem to slow down.
josear1286
10-11-2009, 6:53 PM
WAMT.....WANT.......WANT LOL
SimonL
10-11-2009, 7:21 PM
I'm more impressed with the poly being in with a huge Aba Aba than it being 26" lol
raymondk
10-11-2009, 7:25 PM
true it could be small