photo of unknown gar at LFS

[Kimix]

This just came in at my LFS as a Crocodile Gar, So I assume its a hybrid of some sort. Ive been trying to look up Crocodile Gar photos online and cant really find anything that looks anything like it.

I want it so bad, but I fear it will probably get huge and i can't handle any more monsters.

Anyone got a positive ID and possible adult size?

[Bogwoodbruce]

I've heard of crocodile Gars before and they are Hybrids, i'm not sure what that is though.

[demjor19]

croc gar are a hybrid between either a spotted and an alligator gar or a florida and an alligator gar. the fish photographed is not a gar at all. it looks like some kind of characin to me? i know that doesnt narrow it down much, but if it helps any it's not a gar.

[jtrotter77]

not sure but cool looking pattern.

[Kimix]

hmm.. im looking up characins on that suggestion, and the only ones i can find that are similar are these two http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.php?ID=12404

I should also point out, that this fish has two thin feeler like fins (like on a gourmai), that he holds along side his body, in the bottom photo you can see them, would that also indicate that its not a gar? I dont see these fins on the characins either though

[demjor19]

hmm.. im looking up characins on that suggestion, and the only ones i can find that are similar are these two http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.php?ID=12404

I should also point out, that this fish has two thin feeler like fins (like on a gourmai), that he holds along side his body, in the bottom photo you can see them, would that also indicate that its not a gar? I dont see these fins on the characins either though

an lfs near me has some of the fish you have photographed. its about 30 minutes away, but they had them labeled with a scientific name. if i am out that way i could look into it for you. i am absolutely possitive this fish is not a true gar.

[arowpeak]

CROCODILE GARS!???!?!:WHOA:

[Stab]

Damn, I am good! :D (http://habitatnews.nus.edu.sg/guidebooks/freshfish/text/233.htm) <-- CLIXOR

[vanimate]

Not a characin, its missing the adipose fin.
Stab might have a correct ID

[Kimix]

YES! you are good.

its a Peppermint Pikehead
Luciocephalus aura
Size 8in

Thank you all very much for your help.. Now to figure out if i have room to keep one

heres a really good photo of some
http://www.pbase.com/pschia/image/20032047&exif=Y

[demjor19]

cool!
glad you found the correct id!

[vinson lim]

it is not a GAR then...
anyway, a cute looking fish.
too bad it is a small fish, it is good if this kind of fish can grow up to 3 to 4feet, wahaha, cant imagine it.

[milkman407]

croc gar are a hybrid between either a spotted and an alligator gar or a florida and an alligator gar. the fish photographed is not a gar at all. it looks like some kind of characin to me? i know that doesnt narrow it down much, but if it helps any it's not a gar.

:banhim:

:)
I agree with the above statement.

[demjor19]

:banhim:

:)
I agree with the above statement.

i left one out. i forgot there were two variants of the croco gar.

crocodile gar= florida/spotted gar + alligator gar
shortnose + alligator gar

[skylar69]

i have those guys at my lfs for like $20.

[plausible]

its pikehead.it can be found in large drains here in sg

[Jackskeletonzero]

That's a tough one to keep, i heard they only eat live foods. I suppose it has much to do with shipping stress.

[filiportela]

it's not a gar, but it looks nice ;)

[DownUnder]

hey Plausible... u serious bout finding pikeheads here in SG? take me 2 where uR referring 2 1 of these days?