Armatus

[Coutl]

Hi id like to know tank size and etcc anbout armatus

[VVateverzYo]

a very nice expensive fish that grows big so you will need a big tank for them because they love swimming i heard 250 for a fish and they are mean so watch out with tankmates

[cichlaguapote]

I would think big. At least 300g or so for one. They grow pretty rapidly but you could start with a smaller tank and work up to the big tank. They don't do well in groups, so keep them only one per tank. Also watch keeping other silver colored fish with them. Also supposed to be pretty hard to get off of live food, but sure it can be done and has been done by R1.

[vamptrev]

i just tried to put a silver aro w mine and my armatus beat the crap out of him. armatus is still the sweetest fish ive ever owned. he gets along w rays with no problems.

[Coutl]

I heard 1 armatus could fit in a 180 which is same as 300g but not as long

I was thinking ray and armatus

Arnt they hard to get?

[VVateverzYo]

yeah but armatus get long and really big they need alot of swimming space and they are very hard to get and very expensive

[cichlaguapote]

I heard 1 armatus could fit in a 180 which is same as 300g but not as long

I was thinking ray and armatus

Arnt they hard to get?



300g is 8'x30" foot print.. standard 180g is 6'x2'

The 300g is a good bit bigger even though it doesn't look like it on paper. And yeah they are hard to get. You could put one in a 180g for a while. But IMO after 18" ish there should be a upgrade.

[JardiniBoy]

The biggest armatus I know of is in a 6x2 footprint tank (the tank is over 3' high though). It's around 2' and seems okay in the tank, albeit a little cramped.

A 180 would be fine for a long time, and if it's still alive when it's time to upgrade and you're still enjoying keeping the fish ... well then you have an excuse to treat yourself to a bigger tank! :D

[DB junkie]

An Armatus will peg 18 inches in less than 2 years if kept properly. I have one in a 180 and it will get a bigger tank at 12 inches. Payara are very skiddish. So a small tank is fine if you want them toothless. Fullgrown Armatus I wouldn't go any less than 1000. I have payara that are 8-9 inches and were recently put in the 180 due to them freeking out in a 125.

You want the holy grail of payara then treat it like that. Don't be cramping it.

To the best of my knowledge there is still far less than 100 Armatus in the US. It took me from Dec to about 3 weeks ago to get one. It wasn't cheap. Good luck.

[vamptrev]

DB is right, the bigger the tank the better. ive only had armatus for 3 or 4 months and he went from 4 inches to 9. my 140 is getting too small

[milokai]

I got one his name is raider about 11inches. nice fish , he is with 6 red tail payara in 300g soon I'll put them in 450g.

[KRSwop1]

So you have them together now. I hope you have better luck than I did bro. That would be a bad ass tank. Did you ever get ahold of the dude with the GATFs?

[vamptrev]

I got one his name is raider about 11inches. nice fish , he is with 6 red tail payara in 300g soon I'll put them in 450g.

bad idea!!!! it might be working for now but as soon as u loose the first redtail u better split them up. he will keep taking them out 1 at a time. stay on ur toes.

[Coutl]

hiow long do they live?

[milokai]

what's up bro, I took all my fish out in the big tank and put them in the 100g for now, then put raider in the 300g....better be safe. I'll set my 450 soon and put raider in.Yes,I got your message I think gatf is in la, I don't trust shipping gatf but thanks for letting me know. I'm still looking around bay area for GATF.

[odalisay]

I got one his name is raider about 11inches. nice fish , he is with 6 red tail payara in 300g soon I'll put them in 450g.

So you have Raider now... Take good care of him and keep us updated on his progress. I miss my boy.:(

[milokai]

yes, I have raider now. I'll take good care of him. bro, what the best ph for him and also I add a powerheads. and temp . now I have 82temp and 7.2ph.

[odalisay]

yes, I have raider now. I'll take good care of him. bro, what the best ph for him and also I add a powerheads. and temp . now I have 82temp and 7.2ph.

I really didn't mess around with ph when I had him. I took the advice from R1 and just let my fish get used to the ph of my water. I lived in EPA when I had Raider and the ph there was around 7.8-8.0. Raider was kept in a 125g w/built in wet/filter and a sponge filter(biggest one) to help with filtration/aeration. For some reason the tank stayed on the warmer side around 84-85, thus having the need for aeration to help oxygenate the water. Try not to make the mistake that I made of keeping too many tankmates with him, for that will hinder his eating habits. Instead of concentrating on eating, he will concentrate on chasing everybody in the tank. Keep an eye out on the red tails, even though Raider will kick their butts they still have fangs that could damage Raider. GL with raising him and don't hesitate to PM either me or KRSwop1 for any help.

[KRSwop1]

What ollie said ^

[milokai]

thanks bro. now, his tankmates are just 6 redtail about7inches+ and small 6inches orino bass and giraffe cat abou 5inches in the 300g. but you are right..redtail are also can fight back and damage raider I'll watch them and any fight I will take out redtails. maybe I'll set up the other tank sooner.

[odalisay]

thanks bro. now, his tankmates are just 6 redtail about7inches+ and small 6inches orino bass and giraffe cat abou 5inches in the 300g. but you are right..redtail are also can fight back and damage raider I'll watch them and any fight I will take out redtails. maybe I'll set up the other tank sooner.

When I had Raider, everything and anybody that go too rought with Raider got tossed on their tail(literally, had a lot of cats in my neighborhood:naughty:). For example, I tossed a temensis bass(it was about 6") out cause he was taking shots at Raider. I did this only because I considered Raider my "holy grail"/"prized fish" but, it may be different for you.

[Coutl]

hiow long do they live?



can someone asnwer that also what about aeritation? I heard they die if they dont have enough?

[milokai]

same here bro..that why I took all my big fish out in 300 and put him in. you are right ..it is hard to find armatus in the bay area. I'll try to post some pictures this week.

[vamptrev]

can someone asnwer that also what about aeritation? I heard they die if they dont have enough?

im not sure how long they live, armatus just need alot of room to grow out. they dont need any special airiation levels, but the more the better anyway.