prehistoric tank ideas: pls help me sort my stocking...

[ermgravy]

ok so around sept 22-30th i will have a 7'x4' and am thinking i wana do a really prehistoric monster tank:

fish i ideally want to include:
2x silver arowana,
1x black arowana,
1x rtg asian arowana,
1 Florida / spotted gar,
1 Bowfin,
1 poly ornate,
1 poly endi,
1 clown knife,
1 South American lungfish,
and some not so accient fish:
1 albino red oscar,
1 JD,
2 silver dats,
a few plecs,
mayb my pinima pbass if he every learns to behave....
and i would like either african pikes or aft not gaft thou, not sure if either is a option?...
and if i ever find one a african arowana...
i love rays and fei fengs too...

advise me please!!!

[ermgravy]

hello... more people should really stop buy this section! anyone???

[David R]

Sounds great to me!!

[ermgravy]

anyone else???

[STONEDFISH]

Even though that is a huge tank.... i don't think you can can fit that many monsters. You probably need a 10 foot long tank. And why go to the trouble of setting up a cool tank and then put oscars and jack dempseys in it? Sounds like you need to narrow your selections.
stndfsh

[pufferking]

Ya it seems like alot of fish

[ermgravy]

was never planing to put all the fish mentioned in a tank, just the fish i am considering... and wanted help and advise what would work... my list., i like my JD and my O, they have bags of character!

[hydro]

is it possible to keep gars and arowana with snakeheads all of a simalar size

[davo]

Long as you don't have the agression with the aros, I think you could put them together.Oh and keep "prehistoric" as that.

[pirarucu319]

wow!!!:eek:
that nice...sort of pre-historic gathering..
let's see later oh..
it should be nice 'n' sweet...

[thefishguy7]

sounds awesome, but I'd watch how the oscar treats the ray.

[wolfcichild027]

i had a similar plan way back but i got some more negative answers but that was my fault for trying to put paddle fish and stergeons wich need colder temps with aros and such as far as your ideas keep it prehistoric take out the oscars and other "NEW" cics and id just go with aripamas aros and some bichirs

[SimonL]

Keep the cichlids out! Remember catfish and tetras are technically prehistoric too (Jurassic), although more advanced evolutionally speaking.

I have two "prehistoric" tanks, they are a lot of fun...

[SmokinCoCo]

So did you ever build the tank...its past September? If so, pics please. :)

[Aquaman_95]

Actually for ancient fish that is a great idea.

[channarox]

sounds nice.
needs more polys and no cichlids.
got pics?

[fishy fishy fishy fish]

I have an ancient tank (not quite as big as yours) with a bichir a gar a pike a clown knife and a rainbow shark.
the gar and the pike own the top of the tank
the clown knife owns the back
and the rainbow shark and the bichir live at the bottom and are excellent at keeping the tank clean of half eaten meals!
So to answer your question try to figure where these fish will idealy live then give a little space and A LOT of room to grow.

[POPPAPOLYPTERUS]

:irked:My ornate of 6 inches ate my silver arrowanna of 5 inches. I would also like to note that of the 5 types of bichirs that i have my ornate seems the most aggressive:headbang2:popcorn:gotta love em!:D:screwy::grinno:
P.S. my 1st. post yeeeaaaah show em your a tiger!!!:screwy::D

[BRANDO258]

Don't know about the Pikes mate, i heard there pretty aggressive and don't do well with other fish?

[iplaydrums1]

your shark may be targeted at some point. if your looking for a cat, look at big synos. and if youve got the room, maybe a shovel. but that may be pushing it, (dont knwo how your tank looks). at my store we had gars and pikes for a while, both have amazing personalities, and grow HUGE. pikes get very very territorial though and will try to be the "king" of the tank at some point most likely.

[ermgravy]

ok guys, geuss i better update, every one's taken a lil longer to grow/collect and are currently spread about my tanks. i have ordered a nice big custom tank for them, but due to it having to go through doors in one piece, its only going to be, 84"x30"x30" but i do plan on upgrading again wen i can.
current stock ready for the tank;
blk aro, silver aro, sp gar, 2 endi, 2 lap, 2 ornate, 2 bowfin, rck, bgk, and sal. have a assortment of plecs to pick from thou may go for a megalodora instead... want to add, a african aro, green aro, rtg aro, 2 delh....
but thats where its at at the mo....

[ermgravy]

as for giga's they shouldnt be in home aquariums with few execptions if you want one that much and are preared to work for it, get a african aro.... they are the half way in evolution between giga n aro... and look dam kool!!!!

[ermgravy]

may try Gaft, Vaft, payara in the mix at some point...

[tattoobaz]

wow that is a nice collection looking forward to seeing them all.

Have you got any pics of whats going in?

[ermgravy]

i have only my fone as far as a camera so not big on taking pics a lot, but here a some of what can i find...
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[ermgravy]

hand nice pic of rck but its location escapes me.... heres the sal wen i first got it...
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[tattoobaz]

nice lookin fish. should be nice once you get them all together no?

By the way where the hell do you get all your fish.
Im kinda low on options here but you have so many beautiful fish i need to know where you get them all. PLEASE???

[ermgravy]

all over... dude your only in dorset! ill help, pm me what u are after and ill do my best to point you in right direction....
where abouts in dorset are you, i wrk for tnt and do a run from southampton to weymouth n back....

[tattoobaz]

i work in weymouth live on portland. small freakin world huh?
just picked up a couple of hujeta gar for my 240 so dont really know what im after now but always lookin ya know!!

Thing is i like to get to a shop on a sunday (day off) and be able to mooch around a bit.

Do ya know anywhere decent within s couple of hours of here?

[Bogwoodbruce]

They all look awesome.

[ermgravy]

baz u have a pm...

[ermgravy]

thnaks! i hate the fact that my gars pectorals will never grow back he has a lil stick on rightside but his left never got any better.... anyone who doesnt know, i got the gar from a guy who had it with 4 turtles that mashed its fins up.... pic is back wen i first got him home.

[ermgravy]

Hey guys a bit of shopping has left me revise the stock list again:
got:
blk aro,
silver aro,
sp gar,
2 endi,
2 lap,
2 ornate,
2 bowfin,
rck,
bgk,
and sal.

Getting:
rtg! Flash tiger.

Wanted:
african aro, rtg, green aro, 1.5red aro, sp gar, tig, x2 palmas, x2 delh.

[badboy]

for these monsters, i think less in a tank is better it seems more kind to them to be uncrowded.

[fishfobia]

throw the nasty oscar out and keep the aros in

[ermgravy]

Ok so idiots making tha tank made it tall rather than wide so its been delayed a week, but in the mean time, the RTG is here! I let my GATF go, but only to a friend whos house is my 2nd home and for a £50 profit i couldnt say no, basicly a 8" GATF payed for 15" RTG :headbang2 and i still see the GATF about three times a week... so i decided its best for me to move the cichlids out now otherwise im guna want to keep em in the mix... only the RT, 4 dats, plecs and my humbug cat are left in there, and i quite like it, guna put the cichlids in a tank under neither the primitive com, maybe a 5x2x2?... but yea, defiateky need more asains to brighten it up, but they will come along the way... in the mean time, ive found a african aro!!!! its in germany and $100 shipping but sod it, im getting one! they are 12" too :headbang2

[soggydrysuit3]

Are they OK with anything they cannot swallow? Or get picked on by anything?

Truly awsome animals. Rudimentary lung and all, I understand...

[ermgravy]

they are highly unpredictable and extreme caution is advised when tanking them with anything..... Poly and myself had a conversation about this yest and agreed that they are highly unpredictable.... they seem to go one of three ways, hate other fish, hate other bowfin or they are fine for com. but its techy and even if they seem ok they can snap at any point.... very interesting but unpredictable fish....

[soggydrysuit3]

Make one spectacular specimen fish though. Many thanks...

[lincolngoh]

For a prehistoric look I would think Dinosaur.... designs that have not changed much over the years.

For a prehistoric andscape, i prefer all fish should not to be colorful. A rocky background, gravel, and sparse hardy plants tied to driftwood.

1/2 the tank litted by a spot light for the shadowy lurking effect.

A Oz lungfish, an humpy endy, a spotted gar, a green arowana, a pacman cat, an irwini, a Apurensis catfish and a brown ray.

I'll add in a school of dull colored barbs for the prey effect.

[vincenwp]

YUP...YUP...100% AGREED WITH U...REALLY SPOIL D CONCEPT:confused:Even though that is a huge tank.... i don't think you can can fit that many monsters. You probably need a 10 foot long tank. And why go to the trouble of setting up a cool tank and then put oscars and jack dempseys in it? Sounds like you need to narrow your selections.
stndfsh

[ceeej31]

you do realize that this thread is almost a year old right

[gar man]

get alligator gar they r awsome

[ermgravy]

lol er really? wouldn't quite call them awesome or go around telling people to either get one or com them, and i have one.

[Panerai1950]

At wht temp u keeping the fish with? The bowfins are nice, but seems a little out of place, cold water should suit them better

[ermgravy]

bout 82f and they are fine until about 90f....

[Merbeast]

Could we see a pic of how it looks now? I am interested, it sounds pretty neat.

[ClownKnife28]

Lungfish will kill your tank, right? I read about them that even fish too large to fit in their mouths, they will bite the fish, chew and swallow till the other fish is all gone. So it can kill the ck, ornate, gar, etc.

Am I right?

[franchise513]

i would say just stay pre historic and add some royal CKs those are awesome and maybe look at some rays up cats

[franchise513]

hey ya and why is this forum a year old?

[troutking]

thats going to be a nice tank

[ermgravy]

Lungfish will kill your tank, right? I read about them that even fish too large to fit in their mouths, they will bite the fish, chew and swallow till the other fish is all gone. So it can kill the ck, ornate, gar, etc.

Am I right?

no africans tend too kill all tank mates, thou i have two in coms currently.

[ermgravy]

and as for an up date, most of my stock was wiped out by smashed heater, working to rebuild sock thou not pure prehistoric any more...