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milkman407
08-24-2007, 1:40 PM
Just bought 3 gars, will have pics up later. they are 4" and going in with my 1-2" indo datnoids.. lets hope the dats dont get eaten:(!
demjor19
08-24-2007, 2:40 PM
:popcorn:
milkman407
08-24-2007, 2:44 PM
:popcorn:
I bought 2 and the guy gave me the 3rd 1 for free. its missing 1 eye, but I dont care what a fish looks like. as long as i like it.
i believe 1 has a swim blatter problem. but 1 tried to nip my small indo and they all ganged up on him. so lets hope all goes well.
Bsixxx
08-24-2007, 2:57 PM
yeah good luck
:popcorn:
milkman407
08-24-2007, 3:02 PM
thanks.
dats are pretty agressive, every time a gar goes to swim at 1, the dat stands his place and charges. but so far 1 hour in the tank and they look good.
Bsixxx
08-24-2007, 3:04 PM
thanks.
dats are pretty agressive, every time a gar goes to swim at 1, the dat stands his place and charges. but so far 1 hour in the tank and they look good.
aha
thats what my little 2" festae did to my 15" gar
all i can say is bye bye festae:cry:
milkman407
08-24-2007, 3:36 PM
here are some pics about 10 mins after there in the tank, one has a missing eye, sorry for the pic.
the tanks at 80* and i added salt.
I have 12 dats, 2 loaches, and 1 royal pleco in that tank. If 1 fish goes missing. I'm getting a divider.
i dont know why i bought them, considering im thinning down my stock, but who knows...
Bsixxx
08-24-2007, 3:39 PM
they look like long noses to me
:)
very nice
Aquaman_95
08-24-2007, 3:41 PM
Nice...They are longnose Gars.!
milkman407
08-24-2007, 3:57 PM
cool, how big are they gona get? 3-4ft?
Bsixxx
08-24-2007, 4:00 PM
cool, how big are they gona get? 3-4ft?
supposedly more like 3' tops
milkman407
08-24-2007, 4:02 PM
goooooooooood.
i'll update with pics as they get bigger.
demjor19
08-24-2007, 4:50 PM
do all three gar look the same? some of the pics def. look to be longnose, but a few of the pics look a little different. could you get better head shots of each individual fish? that would help id all three of them.
what size tank are they in? gar are very prone to getting injured in larger tanks at a young age. i would be extremely cautious, especially after looking at your stock list.
nice gar by the way!
rob page
08-24-2007, 4:57 PM
do they grow fast cause i have one and he grows soo slow
Bsixxx
08-24-2007, 4:59 PM
do they grow fast cause i have one and he grows soo slow
till they hit about 12"
ESJBond007
08-24-2007, 8:05 PM
nice looking gars what size tank do u have them in?
Polypterus
08-24-2007, 8:22 PM
It's a mix of Longnosed and Shortnosed..
First two shows Shortnosed second three a Longnosed then another shortnosed for the last...
Good luck with them..
milkman407
08-24-2007, 9:09 PM
theres 3 gars, they are in a 70x24x16 ( 108 gallons )
1 looks much different in person, has the markins of a tropical but i know its not. I'll get some more pics when i can.
milkman407
08-24-2007, 9:37 PM
horrible pics.
Polypterus
08-24-2007, 11:23 PM
horrible pics.
Thats a shortnosed Lepisosteus platostomus
Is the second fish pictured a different fish???
DrZacharyus
08-25-2007, 12:05 AM
I will take one if they attack your dats (shortnosed gar)
milkman407
08-25-2007, 10:01 AM
theres one that is the smallest, and has more of a pattern than the rest.
the one with one eye, looks gold.
and the third one who chases my dats, his pattern is a little dull but he looks gold.
I'll take an amazing pic of each ( 3 pics ). and post them on here. so its easier and less confusing.
Julero
08-25-2007, 10:40 AM
Hello all, Im new here and this is my first post...:) I've owned aggressive fish for the past 10 years now, but only stumbled upon gars about a month ago..I first bought one from my lfs and eventually ended up going back for the remaining two.. something about these armored fish that really intrigues me.. i put the first one in with my flowerhorn which usually beat the living crap out of every other fish i put in his tank.. but the poor guy just shrank when faced with the gars menacing stare. I've since moved my three gars to a bigger tank considering their size.. ANYWAY, when i bought these guys the lfs owner said they were needlenose which even i could see they are not, but as I've just recently came across this type of fish for the first time, i'm hoping i can get an ID from the pros in the game.. :D
low and behold...
http://img40.imagevenue.com/loc801/th_52416_thegar_122_801lo.jpg (http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52416_thegar_122_801lo.jpg)
http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc600/th_52481_DSC00868_122_600lo.JPG (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52481_DSC00868_122_600lo.JPG)
http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc707/th_51742_DSC00875_122_707lo.JPG (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=51742_DSC00875_122_707lo.JPG)
http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc577/th_51748_DSC00799_122_577lo.JPG (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=51748_DSC00799_122_577lo.JPG)
demjor19
08-25-2007, 11:36 AM
Hello all, Im new here and this is my first post...:) I've owned aggressive fish for the past 10 years now, but only stumbled upon gars about a month ago..I first bought one from my lfs and eventually ended up going back for the remaining two.. something about these armored fish that really intrigues me.. i put the first one in with my flowerhorn which usually beat the living crap out of every other fish i put in his tank.. but the poor guy just shrank when faced with the gars menacing stare. I've since moved my three gars to a bigger tank considering their size.. ANYWAY, when i bought these guys the lfs owner said they were needlenose which even i could see they are not, but as I've just recently came across this type of fish for the first time, i'm hoping i can get an ID from the pros in the game.. :D
low and behold...
http://img40.imagevenue.com/loc801/th_52416_thegar_122_801lo.jpg (http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52416_thegar_122_801lo.jpg)
http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc600/th_52481_DSC00868_122_600lo.JPG (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=52481_DSC00868_122_600lo.JPG)
http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc707/th_51742_DSC00875_122_707lo.JPG (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=51742_DSC00875_122_707lo.JPG)
http://img176.imagevenue.com/loc577/th_51748_DSC00799_122_577lo.JPG (http://img176.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=51748_DSC00799_122_577lo.JPG)
welcome to MFK, but please do not derail some elses thread. start your own threat and ask your questions there.
btw...it is an alligator gar (Atractosteus Spatula).
hope you have big plans! by the end of his first year he will be close to 3'. they are also very aggressive due to their rapid growth. i would remove any tankmates. again, starting your own thread would be the best way to go.
great fish by the way.
demjor19
08-25-2007, 11:45 AM
I'll take an amazing pic of each ( 3 pics ). and post them on here. so its easier and less confusing.
:ROFL: amazing pics would be a huge step up from what you've provided us so far! lol! j/k!
it would really help to have a good pic of each individual fish. try not to catch them at an angle. this can throw off the proportions of the fish making it tougher to identify. a nice broad side shot of the fish would be a great help.
Julero
08-25-2007, 12:44 PM
Sorry for hogging your thread Milkman, nice fish btw...:) Im new to this thing so bare with me pls... Thanks for the id demjor, they are definatly growing fast.. one seems to be the badass of the bunch, he is broader and just last night I saw him bite his buddies nose.. i mean he even tore through the net when i was moving him into my 600 gallon. I occasionally feed them gecos and feeder fish but they mostly dine on shrimps. Thanks for the advice, I'll start moving the other fish out before they make meals out of them too.. already lost a giant clown knife.. :irked: and im sure its the big fella who did it.
Aquaman_95
08-25-2007, 1:06 PM
cool, how big are they gona get? 3-4ft? Yes!
vinson lim
08-25-2007, 9:44 PM
600g tank was good for 3 alligtr gar , maybe the tank can hold for them 2 years ???
milkman407
08-29-2007, 1:46 PM
luckly mine arn't gators or i'd be selling them :)
jerrym
08-30-2007, 2:47 AM
Nice Gar's.
milkman407
08-30-2007, 5:43 PM
getting pics now, will update in a couple mins.
milkman407
08-30-2007, 5:55 PM
First 2 pics are of the same fish
3-5 is of old 1 eye
and the last 2 are of the other 1
I believe i have 1 longnoose, and 2 shortnoose.
But I'm not the best at iding gars.
suckerfish
08-30-2007, 6:39 PM
i can't look at 1 eye anymore. it hurts
milkman407
08-30-2007, 6:45 PM
Its actully gotten alot better, barley any red left on his eye. Hes an amazing fish so peaceful and comes right up to the tank waiting for food :)
Polypterus
08-30-2007, 7:01 PM
First fish as expected is a longnosed.
Other two as expected are Shortnosed.
demjor19
08-31-2007, 9:23 AM
First fish as expected is a longnosed.
Other two as expected are Shortnosed.
yup! i agree.
nice gar!
Jakdarippa
08-31-2007, 12:17 PM
Its actully gotten alot better, barley any red left on his eye. Hes an amazing fish so peaceful and comes right up to the tank waiting for food :)
How'd he lose that eye?
milkman407
08-31-2007, 9:46 PM
not sure, I bought 2 of them and the owner gave me the 1 eye for free ( only saw 2 in the tank ). I believe he lost it due to one of the gars during feeding time, but the owner had no clue.
Jakdarippa
09-01-2007, 2:39 AM
Has anyone witnessed such acts of aggression between gars? I know Demjor houses different types together... I've heard gator gars are known to munch on other kinds of gars in the wild..
Polypterus
09-01-2007, 9:38 AM
Most gar when young are highly cannibalistic..It would not be a surprise if the fish was attacked by a conspecific. Even when older they really do not hesitate to attack and try to feed on smaller gar.
There is also aside from actual feeding various types of social aggression that occurs in groups of gar that can regularly result in minor (or sometimes major) injury.
cool thats new for me i want a gar
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 7:42 PM
OMG..
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 7:42 PM
Could you
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 7:43 PM
Please post a whole thought in one post.....
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 7:43 PM
Thanks
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 7:44 PM
It is annoying.
demjor19
09-14-2007, 9:33 PM
It is annoying.
post whore!;)
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 9:55 PM
post whore!;)
I was not done yet..
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 9:56 PM
It is annoying and inconsiderate
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 9:56 PM
To post like this
Polypterus
09-14-2007, 9:56 PM
OK ????