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DeLgAdO
10-29-2005, 10:50 PM
Koi and Comet Goldfish can and do breed... - by Doc Johnson

http://www.koivet.com/html/articles/articles_details.php?article_id=85


It's commonly asked if Koi and Comets can hybridize, and indeed they can. We don't think it's intentional, but instead; the accidental fertilization of one species' roe by the other species' milt. We don't know if it can go both ways; e.g: Koi egg x Comet milt versus Koi milt versus Comet egg.

The offspring are huge. Usually they occur in a solemn brown color and simply outgrow all their siblings. Others are a homogenous grey color with a nice Ami pattern. Still others are colored a base grey with cinammon spots much like the Ochiba Shagure. Blue Ridge Fish Hatchery will occasionally "try something new" and created some hybrids which were Doitsu, grey ghosts.

The specimens here are exceptionally well marked. I have four hybrids in my personal collection, and one of them is completely cinammon and has sparkle scales - Ginrin.

They are incredibly hardy. Last year when I killed the whole pond with Potassium, the water cleared weeks later and there were two of these hybrids huddled at the bottom, waiting for food. Suffice it to say that when the world finally "nukes" itself, all that will be left are cockroaches, defense attorneys, usurous mortgage-policy makers, and KoiComet hybrids.

Hybrids are reported to be sterile, and this is borne out (only) anecdotally by the absence of babies from these in one collection over several years.

How can you tell a Hybrid from a real comet or a real Koi? The Hybrid has no barbels but is built like, and sized like a Koi.

"I have some other Koi Comet Hybrids which are chocolate brown with ginrin scalation. The key is that they do NOT have barbels. These are nearing twenty-something inches in length." ~ Doc Johnson

xxxdrewww
10-29-2005, 10:51 PM
my dad told me of this he lived on lake ontario and ppl would dump koi and gold fish in there the gold fish and carp breed ot he said

FlammingWoodChuck
10-29-2005, 10:58 PM
Thats is cool. Funky lookin fish. I would have 1 or more in a pond if I had 1

necrocanis
10-29-2005, 11:48 PM
I don't care what anyone thinks I love hybrids. I think we should hybridize cutlip minnows with mirror carp.

sandtiger
10-29-2005, 11:53 PM
I have personally seen these fish. A few years back in my icthyology class we had a fish ID test. We had several dead fish out on display tables and we had to know the latin family name and the common species name. One of the fish was a hybrid between goldfish and carp that was close to or over a foot long. He was apperently trying to throw us off.

lizardfishman
10-30-2005, 7:55 AM
those are some weird looking fish.

flower1982
11-01-2005, 8:07 PM
That's really interesting. I never thought oy goldfish and koi breeding. Although it does make sense.

DeLgAdO
11-03-2005, 2:05 AM
That's really interesting. I never thought oy goldfish and koi breeding. Although it does make sense.

yeppers

they dont get any hardier than this! :headbang2

too bad their sterile :(

i wonder how much they cost?

ballsmcgee1234
11-10-2005, 10:25 PM
different, but cool looking, too bad it'll be sterile(most likely)

benzjamin13
11-10-2005, 10:33 PM
I have personally seen these fish. A few years back in my icthyology class we had a fish ID test. We had several dead fish out on display tables and we had to know the latin family name and the common species name. One of the fish was a hybrid between goldfish and carp that was close to or over a foot long. He was apperently trying to throw us off.

Trick Question! :confused: Did you call him on it? I would've.

WolfFisho1
04-05-2007, 9:25 PM
they actually look pretty ok! and dare i say awsome!

BIGgourami
04-05-2007, 9:31 PM
yeah they're called like butterfly koi or something.

me_wee_todded
04-05-2007, 9:38 PM
sweet maybe if im not arrested and stil get a pond, i will get one of those

fishyz
04-06-2007, 11:34 AM
yeah they're called like butterfly koi or something.

Yep, butterfly koi, because they have long fins.:)