Anyone rear Payara? Who has the largest?

[Ariel]

Hi there,
Anyone there keep Payara, vampire tetra? Who has the largest?
FYI, I gave 2 of them, of size ~10" and 6"+

[Ariel]

Hi there,
Anyone there keep Payara, vampire tetra? Who has the largest?
FYI, I gave 2 of them, of size ~10" and 6"+
Sorry,
FYI , I have 2 of them, of size ~10" and 6"+

[rayman45]

i had 1 that was 4-5"
gave it to lfs in trade for the 4 peices of drift wood
2 in 30G
1 in 75
1 in 55 gator tank

[Rui]

I have kept a few in the pat myself, but they always seem to die..Don't seem to do very well even with semi-aggressive Tiger Datnoids. I hear they reach a certain size, and then die. U guys hear the same thing? I would love a 30" Payara. Very impressive looking, though very boring to keep.

[Ariel]

I have kept a few in the pat myself, but they always seem to die..Don't seem to do very well even with semi-aggressive Tiger Datnoids. I hear they reach a certain size, and then die. U guys hear the same thing? I would love a 30" Payara. Very impressive looking, though very boring to keep.

Yes, someone in predatoryfish said they wouldnt get pass 12" in captivity due to the "high oxygen" demand for adult fishes (need strong flowing water , highly oxygenated)
In addithion, their grow rate are very slow, I got mine from 4~5" too, and have been keeping them for 1 yr + coming to 2 yrs. They only feed on live feeder, eg small koi/goldfish, red fish, platly etc.
My bigger one is close to 10" and smaller abt 6"+, although I bought them from abt the same size.

[BigMOCats]

I have two that have gone from 4" to about 6" since last July.

Scott

[Ariel]

Just posted some pics, check my gallery :D

[julnj2]

A LFS has a 18incher on display

[piranha45]

A LFS has a 18incher on display
how big a tank is it in? does it look healthy? is it active?

[RuckusLV]

I also would like to see this 18" Payara. Never seen one past 14". I believe there are 4 types of Payara that's floating around the hobby. I am told the sp. from Venezuela are the ones that get the biggest. I am not sure though, I have not been successful in growing one past 8". The last one I had became a victom to an unusually aggressive silver arow about 5 years ago.

RuckusLV

[Ariel]

18", impressive!
the LFS here biggest ~10"

[rayman45]

A LFS has a 18incher on display

lets see pics

does it look like this
http://www.fishcreations.com/images/payara.jpg

[Ariel]

Is that a preserved specimen or a plastic substitute?

[rayman45]

i dono
but the site had some plastic models of record pbass

[vamptrev]

ive seen pics online of a large vamp and i have 4 different species of them and theyre doin fine in my 150. hopefully they can make it until the new year for theyre new 500 gal home

[eman b115]

man you cant have a thread like this and not post pics.....Come guys pics

[YOULOOKLIKEAFISH]

I have kept a few in the pat myself, but they always seem to die..Don't seem to do very well even with semi-aggressive Tiger Datnoids. I hear they reach a certain size, and then die. U guys hear the same thing? I would love a 30" Payara. Very impressive looking, though very boring to keep.


large species tanks

[vanimate]

There are several species that are referred to as payara. Which one are you all talking about?

[sabotage]

Yes, someone in predatoryfish said they wouldnt get pass 12" in captivity due to the "high oxygen" demand for adult fishes (need strong flowing water , highly oxygenated)
In addithion, their grow rate are very slow, I got mine from 4~5" too, and have been keeping them for 1 yr + coming to 2 yrs. They only feed on live feeder, eg small koi/goldfish, red fish, platly etc.
My bigger one is close to 10" and smaller abt 6"+, although I bought them from abt the same size.

i think thats just a myth..ive heard that though..nice 2ft armatus would turn me on:eek:

[jubsy]

I had 3 of them from 11" - 12" in 72 30 30 inch tank but sold them recently. They need clean water with some current. That tank has a pump rated at 8500 lph. They will find the area that the current is to their liking. Sorry for the quality of the pics, it's from my mobile phone

[rkc772]

R1 has a monster payara... i would be conservative it I said it was 18" from nose to tail. it's a beast and not a moster.:D

[vanimate]

I had 3 of them from 11" - 12" in 72 30 30 inch tank but sold them recently. They need clean water with some current. That tank has a pump rated at 8500 lph. They will find the area that the current is to their liking. Sorry for the quality of the pics, it's from my mobile phone

Nice driftwood! Those look like vulpinis.

[vamptrev]

some of mine. not a prized size yet...

[vamptrev]

some of mine

[jubsy]

Nice driftwood! Those look like vulpinis.

Thanks, and yes, they are vulpinus. There're two scom in there too.

[Aribenlaw]

I had 3 of them from 11" - 12" in 72 30 30 inch tank but sold them recently. They need clean water with some current. That tank has a pump rated at 8500 lph. They will find the area that the current is to their liking. Sorry for the quality of the pics, it's from my mobile phone

Payara, EBJDs, and what are those, ATFs? I never would have thought those would work together. Pretty tank mate.

[Sundew]

I had 3 of them from 11" - 12" in 72 30 30 inch tank but sold them recently. They need clean water with some current. That tank has a pump rated at 8500 lph. They will find the area that the current is to their liking. Sorry for the quality of the pics, it's from my mobile phone

Hey, are those cypress knees you are using for driftwood? I have thought about using them in aquaria but they are like corks, incredibly boyant. Do you have them screwed to massive pieces of slate or do they waterlog over time?

BYW, that is a very nice tank and the fish are really cool. I don't think they are legal in my state. :cry:

Sundew

[vamptrev]

armatus or red tail?

[KRSwop1]

Look to be armatus, but the pics are kind of small and blurry, so ID is not 100% sure.

[HugeGhost]

Would love to see that 18" on display! Where are ya at bro, does he want to sell it and is it red tail or armatus?

[HugeGhost]

armatus or red tail?

Sure looks like an Armatus from the white line! Definetly post some more pics of him! How big is he, did you just get him?

[odalisay]

armatus or red tail?

Does it have a bright orange adipose fin? Try to get a bigger pic up close and personel.

[jubsy]

Hey, are those cypress knees you are using for driftwood? I have thought about using them in aquaria but they are like corks, incredibly boyant. Do you have them screwed to massive pieces of slate or do they waterlog over time?

BYW, that is a very nice tank and the fish are really cool. I don't think they are legal in my state. :cry:

Sundew

Those driftwoods are actually the roots of eucalyptus:D cut and lay upside down. They will submerge after a day in water, BTW I screwed the skinniest one to a sheet of acrylic to make it stand.

[vamptrev]

the wood had to come out it started to root its not supposed to be in water, those are old pics. ive been doing some research and my new guy is deffinately an armatus which is great and will get some sweet pics when my girlfriend gives my cam back. i want to let him grow just a little then throw my red tail back in the mix and see what happens. he has a different attitude then everyone else and isnt letting anyone else pick on him even though hes the smallest now. (not for long) sorry for the small pics their from my phone

[KRSwop1]

Armatus.

[vamptrev]

look at my armatuses eyes then look at dr pez's eyes and then look at a red tails dark black eyes. his look just like mine but younger

[KRSwop1]

eye size is not a distinguishing characteristic.

[HugeGhost]

Nice i would keep the red tail away from him! You scored a huge prize! That definetly does not happen often! Just feed him the best and get him bulked for your huge tank.

[vamptrev]

thanks 4 the help guys!!!!!

[KRSwop1]

no problem

[ZOO YORK 207]

Hey vamptrev what are those elongated payara?

[vamptrev]

they are rhaphiodon vulpinus, they are in the vamp family. they arent very aggressive like the others but they love to eat and they still have decient size teeth. they were my second species and now pushin 12'' long

[aro-man]

WOW COOL!!! Always wanted a payara....Your pictures arent helping:)

[vamptrev]

heres another

[killerfish]

I had 3 of them from 11" - 12" in 72 30 30 inch tank but sold them recently. They need clean water with some current. That tank has a pump rated at 8500 lph. They will find the area that the current is to their liking. Sorry for the quality of the pics, it's from my mobile phone
wow dude i love your tank

[killerfish]

by me at mikes killer fish theres a big one about 14-16'' i don't know for sure how big i didn't ask but well over a foot

[Bderick67]

by me at mikes killer fish theres a big one about 14-16'' i don't know for sure how big i didn't ask but well over a foot

I've seen that thing eat, it's teeth are huge. Definitely 15" plus.

Here is a pic from Mike's website

[JD7.62]

Is it for sale?

[Bderick67]

Is it for sale?

No...That is Mike's killer fish. He usually does have some 4" in stock though.

[JD7.62]

The fish pictured is an armatus so are you saying he stocks armatus?!

[Bderick67]

The fish pictured is an armatus so are you saying he stocks armatus?!

I'm not familier with all the species, so I couldn't tell you for sure. At the store the picture fish is labeled as a Sabertooth payara and the small are labeled as the same. I was there today and he only has one of the small one left. Mike is a vendor here on MFK but I don't think he is real active on this site. Here is his contact info from his website, hope this helps.

http://mikeskillerfish.com/contact.htm