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woodysun-Taiwan
11-01-2005, 5:09 AM
40cm+ :)
rumblesushi
11-01-2005, 6:02 AM
jesus, that's a big thick payara.
I think that may be the biggest one I've seen in an aquarium. People say they die at about a foot for no apparent reason.
How long have you had it?
Leicharti188
11-01-2005, 6:47 AM
Man, that thing is huge. Nice payara
What are you feeding him?
Very nice payara.... :woot: :clap :woot:
T1KARMANN
11-01-2005, 8:08 AM
that fish is sweet :D
what size tank is that it looks BIG
FormulatedFire
11-01-2005, 8:10 AM
look at the teeth on that sucker.....he also has some nice looking tank mates.....love the rays and peacock bass
that fish is awesome. i think i have to get one.
wayne the pain
11-01-2005, 10:50 AM
Thats one amazing fish :WHOA: tell us more about it please :thumbsup:
Jesse
11-01-2005, 12:54 PM
Wow! At 16 inches, that is the largest payara I've ever heard of in an aquarist's tank.
that thing is awesome i want one.
holy! i've never even seen a 10" payara much less something that big, great pick up :thumbsup:
did you grow it to that size?
guppy
11-01-2005, 10:45 PM
I love characins, no way I can pick a favorite, neons?
kentobizmol
11-01-2005, 11:26 PM
how big is the tank, and what else do you keep it with...i remember seeing a tigrinus catfish in there.
do you feed it piranhas everyday?
does it swim alot? any nips at the other fish, like the stingrays?
woodysun-Taiwan
11-03-2005, 4:35 AM
Hi folks,
Due to my English is not good. I will do my best to answer your questions.
1. This fish I keep 1 year. (From last Oct. until now, and the size is from 8cm grow up to 40cm.)
2. The tank size 180cm*60cm*105cm(H)
3. I feed pond loach now. The pond loach size is about 10cm.
Thanks for your kindly reply...^^
PhullTank57
11-03-2005, 5:23 AM
Wow! What an incredible animal!! :drool: That payara is gorgeous. Does it hold it's own well against your peacock bass? Please post more pics in the future. Thank you very much for sharing! :)
Btw, does anybody know what the current record is for size payara kept in captivity??
man, you grew that monster yourself? wow, this gives hope to the other hobbists that growing payaras to that size is possible in the aquaria :thumbsup:
woodysun-Taiwan
11-03-2005, 5:52 AM
Yes, I grew this fish by myself and I changed the tank 3 times.
1st time, the fish is 8cm and I keep in a small tank. (60cm*30cm*30cm)
2nd time, the fish is 15cm and I keep in a middle tank. (90cm*60cm*60cm)
3rd time, the fish is 25cm and leaves in a big tank. (180cm*60cm*105cm)
In my experience, payaras have many species, some of them are small species....
characinkid
11-03-2005, 12:57 PM
That is awsome,
There are so many characins it is hard to pick best, Rhoadsia are cool, but so are some of the ordinary ones like Ancestro's, and even congo's and other africans like Brycinus...
Lets see other peoples list.s
Yes, I grew this fish by myself and I changed the tank 3 times.
1st time, the fish is 8cm and I keep in a small tank. (60cm*30cm*30cm)
2nd time, the fish is 15cm and I keep in a middle tank. (90cm*60cm*60cm)
3rd time, the fish is 25cm and leaves in a big tank. (180cm*60cm*105cm)
In my experience, payaras have many species, some of them are small species....
nice, thanks for sharing your experience with them ;)
DeLgAdO
11-03-2005, 8:52 PM
do they only eat live food?
would you have any pics of it when i was younger? i'd like to see what type of payara it is :)
woodysun-Taiwan
11-04-2005, 5:55 AM
Yes, they eat live food only.
Payara juv. is golden and have some spots on face and most important is the shape of the head and tail is different.
Caveman
11-04-2005, 6:15 AM
Wow! that is one very impressive fish! A monster indeed. :thumbsup:
yup, they do look different from the payara's that came here before.. thanks for sharing the pics :)
Fomoris
11-04-2005, 2:14 PM
What a monster !!! That's awesome !!!
tigerfangs
11-04-2005, 8:12 PM
WOW!!! That Payara is beastly!!! Is that Armatus, Scomberoids, or something else?
Amazing..
Making me very curious about "why" they die at larger size for so many people.. They must need very clean water, alot of open space, and alot of oxygen. I am also curious, he has different types of live foods avavilable in Taiwan, such as the 'loaches' he is feeding him if I read correctly? Perhaps these are healthier, and more suitable for large predators.. I also noticed asian folk often feed frogs and snakeheads as feeders. Maybe since we are often forced to feed our large preds feeder goldfish, which are unhealthy, disease ridden, and full of copper, that it is slowly over time depleting the overall health of our predatory fish? Just something to think about! (Notice, other Preds that can be fed a prepared diet, such as gars eating pellets, often live well until huge sizes.)
lizardfishman
11-05-2005, 9:45 AM
beutiful fish. i think miles is right, the live foods in Asia are probably healthier and rasied better.
Amazing..
Making me very curious about "why" they die at larger size for so many people.. They must need very clean water, alot of open space, and alot of oxygen. I am also curious, he has different types of live foods avavilable in Taiwan, such as the 'loaches' he is feeding him if I read correctly? Perhaps these are healthier, and more suitable for large predators.. I also noticed asian folk often feed frogs and snakeheads as feeders. Maybe since we are often forced to feed our large preds feeder goldfish, which are unhealthy, disease ridden, and full of copper, that it is slowly over time depleting the overall health of our predatory fish? Just something to think about! (Notice, other Preds that can be fed a prepared diet, such as gars eating pellets, often live well until huge sizes.)
Miles,
Totally agree with you dude, as the saying goes - you are what you eat - and if these loaches from the pond have been feeding on natural diet then ofcourse they will be healthy and the payara will be getting fresh natural feeders packed with natural foods.
Very very very nice fish!
kentobizmol
11-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Yes, they eat live food only.
Payara juv. is golden and have some spots on face and most important is the shape of the head and tail is different.
wait you are taiwanese right?
i'm japanese and i can kind of read those words on your payara picture.
the words on the head say something like "big crazy teeth" right?
IoStrisciare
11-06-2005, 5:11 AM
Yes, they eat live food only.
Payara juv. is golden and have some spots on face and most important is the shape of the head and tail is different.
for the benefit of members that do not understand chinese, the payara on the left is the smaller species while the one on the right w the reddish tail is the giant species.
woodysun-Taiwan
11-07-2005, 5:46 AM
Hi IoStrisciare,
Thanks for your explanation. It's correct. Do you live in Taiwan, too?
Hi Kentobizmol,
Yes, I come from Taiwan. The small type of payara is call "big teeth" and large type call "giant teeth" in Taiwan.
Hi Miles,
Yes, I feed the live loaches. That's a pretty good foods for monster fishes. But it's a little dangerous for your fishes if the loaches is not samll.
IoStrisciare
11-07-2005, 5:52 AM
Hi IoStrisciare,
Thanks for your explanation. It's correct. Do you live in Taiwan, too?
i stayed there for half a year...
can understand the more complicated chinese u guys use.
Technically speaking the chinese names direct translation are " Big BuckTeeth" and "Giant-type Big BuckTeeth" :ROFL:
characinkid
11-07-2005, 9:49 AM
YOu have other cool characins in that tank, do I see some Acnodon's???
RobD23
11-07-2005, 4:49 PM
isn't that thing called a saber tooth baracuda?????
woodysun-Taiwan
11-07-2005, 8:03 PM
Yes, that's Acnodon.
IoStrisciare
11-07-2005, 8:26 PM
isn't that thing called a saber tooth baracuda?????
there are all sorts of names for the same fish...
basically what the LFS call them.
venwu225
11-07-2005, 8:55 PM
40cm+ :)
Are those China rays on the bottom?!
How long have you had them and what are their care like?
woodysun-Taiwan
11-07-2005, 11:10 PM
One pcs is China Ray var. and one pcs is eyebrow ray.
Im4u2nV
11-16-2005, 1:24 AM
are those Chine FW Ray has been imported to Indonesia? Never seen those things in here...then again, most of fishes talked in this forum is not sold in Indonesia generally...some of them do though..
it's hard being in 3rd world country.. it has positive sides and negative sides..
are those Chine FW Ray has been imported to Indonesia? Never seen those things in here...then again, most of fishes talked in this forum is not sold in Indonesia generally...some of them do though..
it's hard being in 3rd world country.. it has positive sides and negative sides..
You have some great local natives that don't get exported muck, like salmon catfish.
ballsmcgee1234
11-16-2005, 2:02 PM
wowsy, that things huge!
softturtle
11-16-2005, 2:23 PM
Just a thought I've been having, Do they actually use those vampire teeth to catch fish? Or in other words, have you ever seen a food item "run through" by those teeth?
rumblesushi
11-16-2005, 3:24 PM
I saw a cichlid get skewered by those teeth in person :)
woodysun-Taiwan
11-22-2005, 12:26 AM
I saw a cichlid get skewered by those teeth in person :)
That's the reason which I loved. :thumbsup:
rumblesushi
11-30-2005, 7:21 AM
I wanna grow my payara big like woodysun :D
Hey woody - a question for you - what do you think is the biggest fish a 10cm payara could eat?
Steve_89
11-30-2005, 7:43 AM
Wow very impressive indeed.
Hats off to you.
HugeGhost
04-13-2006, 5:56 AM
well looks like i got the giant payara since my guys tail is curved like the payara on the right awoooooooooooo
limz_777
04-13-2006, 8:17 AM
what filteration are you running-woodysun?
are those Chine FW Ray has been imported to Indonesia? Never seen those things in here...then again, most of fishes talked in this forum is not sold in Indonesia generally...some of them do though..
China Rays and Eyebrow Rays are from Peru.. They are in the 'small-eyed' ray family, and are usually a little harder to keep and aren't as compatible with other rays.. You don't see them even in the states that often. They happen to be very popular in Asia though..
That is simply an awesome Payara.. I am going to try to import some larger (6"+) ones, if anyone is interested PM me so I can start a list..
Miles
HugeGhost
04-13-2006, 7:43 PM
Any advice on small Payara 4 inches! I have him in a 90 and was wondering the best setup, i plan on getting many more of them! Should i densely populate the tank with plastic vines all over or should i have alot of swimming space and have a powerhead really making the water flow!
Also Miles how much would those over 6 inch Payara go for. I am thinking if my lfs guy cant get more by this weekend i would be interested in buying 3 of them. If i can get my guy or someone from San Diego to buy 3 and we can split shipping! Wow Miles great idea, these are no doubt one of the coolest fish on earth!
rumblesushi
04-13-2006, 9:22 PM
AFRICAN TIGER PIKE
no, it's a payara ;)
wadewonder
04-16-2006, 5:36 AM
best fish i 've seen yet !!!!!!!!
sam_cj
04-16-2006, 7:59 AM
wicked looking fish.
I just registered to see this and I still can't damitt is right :P
furious piranha
04-16-2006, 3:50 PM
thats a nice payara...biggest ive seen in home aquarium
jason34
04-16-2006, 6:29 PM
thats one hell of a mean lookin fish you got.
rickson
04-17-2006, 5:11 AM
now that is an awesome payara:headbang2
stotty
04-17-2006, 5:26 AM
jesus, that's a big thick payara.
I think that may be the biggest one I've seen in an aquarium. People say they die at about a foot for no apparent reason.
How long have you had it?
Yep they get Huge
very nice set up :thumbsup: has it taken any lumps out of the other fish? My old one would eat thing half it size!
flyboy
04-20-2006, 11:42 PM
That is a beast. It would be cool to get a pond with one a large one.
woodysun-Taiwan
04-21-2006, 6:20 AM
I wanna grow my payara big like woodysun :D
Hey woody - a question for you - what do you think is the biggest fish a 10cm payara could eat?
Sorry for my late reply.
10cm just can eat gold fish.
But, I think your payara is different with mine.
You can check the picture from #22 firstly. ;)
HugeGhost
07-31-2006, 7:39 PM
I just got 6 payara about 4 inches. There tail is longer and more pointed the fin under the tail is longer so they are different than the ones i have. They still have the same teeth it looks like. What kind are these can anybody help me.
thebestincali2000
08-02-2006, 2:58 PM
NICE FISH.my favorites r red-bellied pacus
HugeGhost
08-25-2006, 6:56 AM
woody any pics of your huge payara one of the coolest fish on the forum!
black_monster
08-28-2006, 1:45 PM
sweet payara, hopefully i'll get one to be that big one day.
HugeGhost
10-19-2006, 3:56 PM
Woody how is your Payara doing! Would love to get some updated pics. Wanted to ask you if your guy is a Scomberoid or Armatus!
:eek: thats a payara:headbang2
focker
10-21-2006, 7:49 PM
I just got 6 payara about 4 inches. There tail is longer and more pointed the fin under the tail is longer so they are different than the ones i have. They still have the same teeth it looks like. What kind are these can anybody help me.
from what u have explained they are the vulpinus. i think i spelled it correctly but there more slender then the others and fangs not quite as large but still very nice . i have one of each.
filiportela
12-08-2006, 10:47 PM
thumbs up:headbang2 :headbang2
R1_Ridah
02-08-2007, 3:56 PM
40cm+ :)
Very nice Armatus....