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JEAE21
09-15-2007, 4:55 PM
I heard a rumor that turtles die when they are flipped upside down for awhile.
I tried it underwater but he is able to kick himself up.
And right now I tried it in a tub with no water, and after a few minutes he used his NECK to put himself back into the normal position. I felt sorry for him, but I flipped him over again but this time he failed. Can he break his neck by doing this?
I will not flip him upside down again though..
santoury
09-15-2007, 5:05 PM
his neck won't break, but yes, it's true, they will suffocate.
Why would you do that? Sounds pointless to me, especially if you don't know if it will live or die.
evilxyardxgnome
09-15-2007, 5:23 PM
Are you trying to kill your turtle?
I heard a rumor that turtles die when they are flipped upside down for awhile.
I tried it underwater but he is able to kick himself up.
And right now I tried it in a tub with no water, and after a few minutes he used his NECK to put himself back into the normal position. I felt sorry for him, but I flipped him over again but this time he failed. Can he break his neck by doing this?
I will not flip him upside down again though..
Are you having a fever or something?
Your turtle is ever so lucky to come across human kind isn't it... mecury poisoning and then found you! Wonder if it was born on friday the thirteenth.
TheBloodyIrish
09-15-2007, 6:09 PM
Um... wouldn't it be safer to ASK first?
ddyerfamily
09-15-2007, 6:18 PM
What ??????? :confused:
Why ?????? :irked:
Better nicer ways to kill a turtle. :( If you HAVE TOO !!! ONLY :nilly:
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JEAE21
09-15-2007, 6:33 PM
O.k. i'm sorry. I was just experimenting. will nor take chances again.
How do they suffocate though? when they're upside down? is that why he got himself back up?
kittyhazelton
09-15-2007, 6:41 PM
I don't reply to posts too often, but this one just made me go....
What the hell is wrong with you?
That is all I can think of right now.
robkob
09-15-2007, 6:47 PM
I hope his parents are finished reproducing.
evilxyardxgnome
09-15-2007, 7:09 PM
O.k. i'm sorry. I was just experimenting. will nor take chances again.
How do they suffocate though? when they're upside down? is that why he got himself back up?
Im going to experiment on you, by stabbing you in different locations on your body to see which part of the body makes you react the most. Is that ok?
from http://www.tortoisereserve.org/Sundry/Inside.html
Not only are the joints inside the shell, but the limb girdles are used for breathing. In that the rib cage cannot expand and contract to work the lungs, air is pumped in and out by movement of the leg girdles. To fill the lungs the bones of the shoulder rotate inward and forward and those of the pelvis are moved backwards and downward. To exhale the turtle reverses the movements. Watching a turtle breath it would appear that head and leg movements are responsible for filling the lungs, but it the real action is deeper within the shell. The head and legs do pump in and out, but only because of space constraints within the shell. Since the rib cage and shell are so rigid the expanding lungs are another problem. Turtles use special muscles to push aside the intestines and other abdominal organs to make room for the inflated lungs. The displaced organs move down into loose pockets of skin around the base of the legs. Most turtles can remain tightly tucked away in their shells for long periods as they have large lungs and a low rate of oxygen consumption. They must relax and partly release their sealed in appendages however in order to breathe.
from http://www.tortoisereserve.org/Sundry/Inside.html
amehel0
09-15-2007, 8:19 PM
lol y r u guyz flaming him? i think he obviously wasnt aware that they would suffocate
loconorc
09-15-2007, 8:28 PM
Ok, that was irresponsible of you. "Hmm, if i shoot myself in the forehead will I die? If I survive, I'll ask a bunch of online strangers on a fishkeeping website" Please use your head, turtles are living things, respect them.
Yes, a turtle will drown when held underwater in any direction, they are not fish. Most aquatic turtles are able to flip themselves over on land anyway. Desert tortoises in the american west fight for dominance by flipping each other over. The one who flips will bake in the sun and die while the other gets the girls and territory. (Yes, reptiles die in heat. They use heat to digest food and go on their way. Please realize they don't need 24/7 heat, its a dumb mistake tons of people make. This is not towards you or anyone in particular, just throwing it out there)
Use common sense next time, and keep the turtles best interest in mind, not a random passing of curiousity.
JEAE21
09-15-2007, 10:19 PM
You know i'm the type a guy that goes extreme lengths to see what would happen. I'm more of a experiencer, not a read-the-book-and-satisfy.
like that one time in Japan, when I put my finger infront of a farely large sotshell turtle. because i HEARD that softshells don't let go once they bite. He held on for 30minutes until i was able to get some acutal food by his face to distract him. As a result i proved that softshells do let go after they bite someone.
The reason I flipped him over is that i didn't know that they would die from not being able to breathe. It's because i heard that they die because the turtle won't be able to go to the water and dehydrate and die.
hey loconorc, when I sunbathe my turtle for 20minutes or so, i put him in a tub outside that is only filled up to 2" or so.. and ater around 5 minutes he stops basking and is trying to escape out of it. Does that mean he's getting to heated up?
estuary
09-15-2007, 10:55 PM
when I sunbathe my turtle for 20minutes or so, i put him in a tub outside that is only filled up to 2" or so.. and ater around 5 minutes he stops basking and is trying to escape out of it. Does that mean he's getting to heated up?
sounds to me like your turtle is running for its life,
be kind to your turtle
loconorc
09-15-2007, 11:06 PM
I'll reply in your PM. I didnt realize you started this AND the uv light thread.
I REALLY wish you would have figured this out and asked questions BEFORE you got the turtle. It seems to be the weak point of the hobby (as well as monster fish). People just buy first, ask questions later. Do yourself and your future reptiles a favor, and research beforehand. If you have future herps in mind, shoot me questions and I can point you in the right direction. I'll do anything to help even a single turtle. I once spent literally 4 hours on AIM with a concerned parent who wanted a pet for her son. She THOUGHT she wanted an iguana (and other herps I was appalled people actually keep) and she walked away with a happy son and his first pet blue-tongue skink. You get the idea.
Tylervsmith
09-16-2007, 12:08 AM
[quote=loconorc;1131568;]I'll reply in your PM. I didnt realize you started this AND the uv light thread.
I REALLY wish you would have figured this out and asked questions BEFORE you got the turtle. It seems to be the weak point of the hobby (as well as monster fish). People just buy first, ask questions later. Do yourself and your future reptiles a favor, and research beforehand.[/ quote]
did you know he found the turtle? and, it is illegal to release?
I'll reply in your PM. I didnt realize you started this AND the uv light thread.
I REALLY wish you would have figured this out and asked questions BEFORE you got the turtle. It seems to be the weak point of the hobby (as well as monster fish). People just buy first, ask questions later. Do yourself and your future reptiles a favor, and research beforehand.
did you know he found the turtle? and, it is illegal to release?
'cause that makes it better.
loconorc
09-16-2007, 8:44 AM
I didn't know he found it when I wrote that. Then I read the whole mercury contamination thread. No, its not illegal to release, but its not a good idea. The turtle itself will most likely die, as only they can determine the proper habitat, not humans. And if it really IS contaminated, then why risk the whole ecosystem? Keep the dang thing, I already wrote him a whole page in a PM. Either that or find a nature center (not zoo) near you, they might appreciate it. I know ours would if we had muds.
Marcel_h
09-16-2007, 11:33 AM
[QUOTE=JEAE21;1131471;]You know i'm the type a guy that goes extreme lengths to see what would happen. I'm more of a experiencer, not a read-the-book-and-satisfy.
like that one time in Japan, when I put my finger infront of a farely large sotshell turtle. because i HEARD that softshells don't let go once they bite. He held on for 30minutes until i was able to get some acutal food by his face to distract him. As a result i proved that softshells do let go after they bite someone.[QUOTE]
Try it next time with an snapping turtle should be an interisting experiment:ROFL:
vicedretard
09-16-2007, 12:37 PM
sounds to me like your turtle is running for its life,
be kind to your turtle
i liked this one it made me chuckle...lesson learned you can tell by the flaming do not do that again and if your turt endup on its back while in you yard or wherever make sure you dont walk past cause you have seen him flip over a few times cause he might not always be able to do that so you need to put him back on his feet...
PoofaceQ
09-27-2007, 11:13 AM
I heard a rumor that turtles die when they are flipped upside down for awhile.
I tried it
...........
PoofaceQ
09-27-2007, 11:16 AM
hey loconorc, when I put my turtle in the oven on high, he doesnt die. should i make it hotter?[/quote]
loconorc
09-27-2007, 2:27 PM
Put it in the barbeque, that way you can watch his skin crackle!
:hitting:
Hahaha, dont make fun of him, he got the point...
ercnan
09-28-2007, 7:43 AM
You know i'm the type a guy that goes extreme lengths to see what would happen. I'm more of a experiencer, not a read-the-book-and-satisfy.
Try this for extreme :
Go jump off a bridge and see what happens, experience that. Nevermind reading a book that says not to, that wouldn't be too satifying, would it?
:screwy: :screwy:
lovespunaround
09-28-2007, 6:12 PM
Okay honestly, why would you do something that you've heard can kill your turtle, just to see if it actually does kill the turtle? And why would you let a softshell bite you just because you heard they won't let go, and you want to see if it really won't let go?
Experience can sometimes teach us more than reading, but don't discount the importance of common sense. Plus, why take chances like that when you know you might be risking your turtle's life? Doesn't it deserve the same level of respect as a dog or cat or even a human life?
andyourblueblood
10-25-2007, 10:47 PM
not too bright at all!
StingrayFanatic
10-25-2007, 10:56 PM
:screwy:
O.k. i'm sorry. I was just experimenting. will nor take chances again.
How do they suffocate though? when they're upside down? is that why he got himself back up?
Okay, it was a bad idea but I won't flame you for it.
Almost all turtles and tortoises can turn themselves back over but if a high dome tortoise like a desert tortoise ends up on it's back under the wrong circumstances and cannot reach the dirt with it's head they can die, this is not so much from positional suffocation but rather due to overheating from not being able to move into the shade.
If you flip over a softshell it will flip back over as fast as you flipped it in the first place, try it with a snapper and what you end up with is missing fingers.
ercnan
10-26-2007, 3:18 PM
Okay, it was a bad idea but I won't flame you for it.
Almost all turtles and tortoises can turn themselves back over but if a high dome tortoise like a desert tortoise ends up on it's back under the wrong circumstances and cannot reach the dirt with it's head they can die, this is not so much from positional suffocation but rather due to overheating from not being able to move into the shade.
If you flip over a softshell it will flip back over as fast as you flipped it in the first place, try it with a snapper and what you end up with is missing fingers.
No, don't try it with a snapper or any other for that matter.
Take his word for it.
Experiment with yourself instead of other "lower" creatures that have no choice.
Stick your finger in a light socket, jump off a bridge, cover your head with a plastic bag, etc.
You have obviously been flamed enough here to get the point (I hope), dont try it again with any animal, it's just not right.
Miguel
10-26-2007, 10:27 PM
so many threads get closed...why not this ,absolutely stupid, one?
darthbravo
10-26-2007, 10:54 PM
Why not take a fish out ot water and see which happens first-> Dehydration or Suffocation?:screwy:
Miguel
10-27-2007, 7:35 AM
die, thread, die...
andyourblueblood
10-30-2007, 11:23 AM
i heard you could die if you eat lead paint chips. try it and let me know!
JEAE21
10-30-2007, 8:06 PM
wow you guys are all complete idiots..
this thread would have "died" if you didn't post in it. or read any new posts..
this
andyourblueblood (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/member.php?u=22291)
guy had to post "not bright at all" and make the thread start all over again..
i heard you could die if you eat lead paint chips. try it and let me know!
ok! and i'll sew your azz after!
Miguel
10-31-2007, 11:20 AM
wow you guys are all complete idiots..
!
Thank you JEAE21...from this moment on no more replies, from me, to your never ending chain of ( unbright ) questions...
Out of patience; out of time.
The Idiot:screwy:
Vicious_Fish
10-31-2007, 11:25 AM
Out of patience; out of time.
The Idiot:screwy:
:ROFL: I love it Miguel!
andyourblueblood
10-31-2007, 11:41 AM
wow you guys are all complete idiots..
this thread would have "died" if you didn't post in it. or read any new posts..
this
andyourblueblood (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/member.php?u=22291)
guy had to post "not bright at all" and make the thread start all over again..
ok! and i'll sew your azz after!
how could you sew me for your stupidity? haha. thats like saying "i flipped my turtle upside down to see if it would die." and it actually did and then you sew me. hahahahahahahaha! poor turtle. just be a bit more responsible with your animals.
p.s. L.M.F.A.O.!!!!!
navygirl76
10-31-2007, 7:48 PM
jeae21-i know you take alot of crap on this forum but trust me--it would be MUCH worse on other forums. I usually feel sorry for you (er, i mean, your inexperience ) but these types of questions take the cake. i have so much id love to say, but ill be nice.. How about using common sense instead of putting an animals life in jeopardy just because you heard something you wanna try (yet didnt read up on).
i just absolutely cannot believe this thread..please stop trying stuff just because you want to try out some half washed theory you heard somewhere? please? im not mad, but just use that brain of yours! lol..someday youll hurt yourself really bad just to prove some idiotic point.. and well all see you on America's Funniest Videos (haha)
btw mods--can we please close this retarded thread?
Tom500
02-04-2009, 4:42 PM
Um... wouldn't it be safer to ASK first?
Wouldn't it be safer to just keep your pet responsibly and enjoy it for what it is and the way it goes about its day to day business.
Why would you ever ever do this to any animal, is it really that important to figure out if your poor little turtle will get stuck on its back or push itself back over.:confused::confused:
Sometimes i really do wonder:screwy:
Tom500
02-04-2009, 4:43 PM
jeae21-i know you take alot of crap on this forum but trust me--it would be MUCH worse on other forums. I usually feel sorry for you (er, i mean, your inexperience ) but these types of questions take the cake. i have so much id love to say, but ill be nice.. How about using common sense instead of putting an animals life in jeopardy just because you heard something you wanna try (yet didnt read up on).
i just absolutely cannot believe this thread..please stop trying stuff just because you want to try out some half washed theory you heard somewhere? please? im not mad, but just use that brain of yours! lol..someday youll hurt yourself really bad just to prove some idiotic point.. and well all see you on America's Funniest Videos (haha)
btw mods--can we please close this retarded thread?
:clap:iagree::clap
Mike D
02-04-2009, 5:26 PM
you do know that this post was from 2007 dont you?
you do know that this post was from 2007 dont you?
It is is kinda weird how people tend to revive topics...
Even weirder for someone to try and kill their pets.
Mike D
02-04-2009, 6:19 PM
Even weirder for someone to try and kill their pets.
everyone does it. its the new cool thing to do.
http://www.forwardedtome.com/images/fail/ftm_failboat.jpg
chefjamesscott
02-04-2009, 6:25 PM
YOUR TURTLE IS GONNA WEE WEE ON YOU AND THEN CALL HIS COUSINS THE TMNT