WHITE IS BEAUTIFUL... SHOW ME YOUR ALBINO'S

[Tequila]

:popcorn: LET'S SHOW OFF THOSE ALBINO'S, SNOWS AND ETC., SHOW'EM ALL TURTLES, TORTOISES, SNAKES, LIZARDS AND FROGS, YOU GOT'EM SHOW'EM
:headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2 :headbang2

[jason longboard]

hey i just posted a pic of a whitey right before you started this thread,ill post it here,not mine but wish it was.mods can delete my thread if you want.

[jason longboard]

130965woops i forgot the pic

[Tequila]

130965woops i forgot the pic

Now that is one sweet looking Python.

[Tequila]

OK I started this thread I should have posted a pic with it too just didn't think this through enough, here's the Turts I posted earlier. Eeer, change in plans why repost what I just posted elsewheres when I can post this beaut!
Not saying that this beaut is mine, but....... what a Beaut it is. I'll probably be like close to a hundred before its Big and Old enough too breed. But thats why they invented wills right? hehehehehe:chillpill: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37468&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37468&size=1])

:headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn:

[varanio]

n/p

[AttackFish]

n/p

I'm obsessed with albino boas! They are just too cool, I'm also a big fan of snows and calicos! Awesome pic.

[Tequila]

I'm obsessed with albino boas! They are just too cool, I'm also a big fan of snows and calicos! Awesome pic.
I'm obsessed with albinos!
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37600&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37600&size=1])
:popcorn:

[jdryden]

Albino clawed frog I just picked up....strangest thing, it has black eyes....

[jason longboard]

i scrolled,i saw,ilmao.hell of a frog you got their:ROFL:this isnt oddball either.hey i see they took the logo off my python pics face.thanks guys,looks better.:)

[Bogwoodbruce]

Just a snow corn
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r35/BogwoodBruce/Snake/SS100605.jpg

[elevatethis]

130965woops i forgot the pic

That's a leucistic ball python - different than an albino!

Here's my albino ball (posed with a pastel and a normal):

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/elevatethis/morphs005.jpg

[Tequila]

Dam Sweet........It isn't an Albino, but when was the last time you saw a chondropython like this one? :popcorn:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37809 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37809)

[loconorc]

Hey jdryden, thats a leucistic frog. Albinos have a pinkish tone and red eyes. Leucistic animals of any kind are pure white with black eyes, like yours. (Some examples have random color patches, called 'paradox'. Albinos do as well sometimes)

[lovespunaround]

The Xenopus? It looks albino to me.

[Tequila]

C'mon people I know you have them or know where they can be found, post those pix of those albino's. They don't have to be yours, just the ones you've seen.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37967 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37967)

[Vicious_Fish]

Oh man, I love that albino baby iggy! :drool:

[vicedretard]

im with vicous...albino baby iggy is so perrtty looking... yours tequila?if so nice find...if not the nice find on that flick :)

[Jessica Dring]

havent got a pick but albino hedgey-hogs!

[Tequila]

im with vicous...albino baby iggy is so perrtty looking... yours tequila?if so nice find...if not the nice find on that flick :)

Yeah I wanted too but I decided on a chick magnet instead: 2006 Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster and after taxes I didn't have enough for the Iggies :cry::cry::cry:

As for the chick magnet it goes through gas like a dolphin goes through water. :headbang2:headbang2:headbang2

[Tequila]

Here's another beautiful Albino BEAST!
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37969 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37969])
Another one
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37970 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37970])
And back to the first, from another angle
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37968 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37968)

[Tequila]

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37971 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37971):headbang2:headbang2:head bang2

[fishlvr]

Here's another beautiful Albino BEAST!

Is the top one and American croc?

[davo]

Dam Sweet........It isn't an Albino, but when was the last time you saw a chondropython like this one? :popcorn:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37809 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37809)

this is everyday....

this is an albino chondro... http://www.kingsnake.com/salceies/Floyd.htm

[monsternoob]

Wow.. the albino GTP is orange... that is pretty sweet.

[Tequila]

Wow.. the albino GTP is orange... that is pretty sweet.

YEah thats one beautiful snake!

[Vicious_Fish]

Orange?

Click on the link in Davo's last post.

[Chad55]

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=38591&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=38591&size=1)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=38590&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=38590&size=1)
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=38588&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=38588&size=1)\
Just a baby.

Chad

[Tequila]

Is the top one and American croc?


Believe so, can't remember which Zoo I took this shot at. But I believe it was. But this isn't.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37972&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37972&size=1)

[Vicious_Fish]

Isn't that picture an albino spectacled caiman? I'm speaking about the one at the top of the page.

[AttackFish]

Isn't that picture an albino spectacled caiman? I'm speaking about the one at the top of the page.

It isnt an an American Alligator. Not sure what it is, seeing as its albino. :ROFL: Im guessing caiman sp. aswell though.

[AttackFish]

Wait, now that I see the second pic of that Albino, its Def a Spectacled Caiman. The normal in the background is a spectacled caiman, and if those babies are the same animal, then its Definately a spectacled Caiman.

[Jessica Dring]

The three pix of an albino gator with a caiman in the backround? Defo alligator man. Has to be.

[Vicious_Fish]

Here's another beautiful Albino BEAST!
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37969 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37969%5D)
Another one
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37970 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37970%5D)
And back to the first, from another angle
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37968 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37968)

Sorry Jess, but no way in heck are all 3 of these shots American Alligators. The second pic is an definitely an American Alligator. The first and last pictures are Caimans. You can see just by looking at the head profiles. Notice the pointed ridges above the Caiman eyes. Alligators lack these and have much broader snouts. The first and third pic are also the same animals, just at a different angle.

[Vicious_Fish]

Believe so, can't remember which Zoo I took this shot at. But I believe it was. But this isn't.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37972&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37972&size=1)

And just to clear things up, these guys are baby American Alligators.

[AttackFish]

Second Picture is an American Alligator, first and third, Caiman. Baby pictures, american alligator. O_O

[Jessica Dring]

Isn't that picture an albino spectacled caiman? I'm speaking about the one at the top of the page.


I believe you were speaking about all three. I wasn't. I know two pictures are of the same two animals. I also can tell just by looking at their heads..which is why I pointed out (actually in response to yours, see above^) one was an american ali. I guess it sounded like I meant all three. But I didn't sorry. Very close though. And tbh quite good for some one who has only ever seen a croc on one of steve irwins doccies eh ;)

[Bogwoodbruce]

Those albinos are just amazing.

[Tequila]

Wish I could remember which is which and from where!

[Vicious_Fish]

Here's a link with a bunch of photos of differnt albino turtle species. I want that baby albino Easter Box Turtle!

http://www.chelydra.org/turtle_albino_photo_gallery.html

[kittyhazelton]

My albino burm (who also thinks he's a banana slug) levi.

[AttackFish]

Nice burm! I love burms and retics, want to won one some day. I'm starting to get more and more interested in Dwarf retics as they are coming out with morphs now!

Awesome burm though, pretty thick. How old is he?

[kittyhazelton]

Nice burm! I love burms and retics, want to won one some day. I'm starting to get more and more interested in Dwarf retics as they are coming out with morphs now!

Awesome burm though, pretty thick. How old is he?

I've had him for about 2 years now I think? Maybe? I lost track.
I think he's about 4. Not 100% sure on that. He was pretty stunted when I got him. He's just over 8' last I measured.

[AttackFish]

Cool, looks like youre doing a good job with him. :D

[Jessica Dring]

Lovely looking burm. Brave lady ;)

[Rass]

The only albino I have is this Ruthvens Kingsnake (L. Ruthveni). I've had and still have many snakes, just no albinos.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/kirkpatrick8183/ab099615.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/kirkpatrick8183/77e78f76.jpg

[Tequila]

The snake is cool looking that for sure but I prefer the pool table in the background over any Colubrids. :D

[bombay_biorb]

i got the same frog as jdryden

[malawi haps]

Awesome pics eeryone keep them comming!!!

[Tequila]

Here are a few more Turtle Pix.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37470&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37470&size=1])


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37469&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37469&size=1)

[roseriel]

love the albino turtles! :)

[albinosunlimited]

where did you get that picture of the albino cooter thats my old turtle ?

[Zeppelin3k]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/Rollinkaddy/everything/Picture210.jpg

[edotero]

OK I started this thread I should have posted a pic with it too just didn't think this through enough, here's the Turts I posted earlier. Eeer, change in plans why repost what I just posted elsewheres when I can post this beaut!
Not saying that this beaut is mine, but....... what a Beaut it is. I'll probably be like close to a hundred before its Big and Old enough too breed. But thats why they invented wills right? hehehehehe:chillpill: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37468&size=1 (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=37468&size=1])

:headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn: :headbang2 :popcorn:

Now that is nice!!!!!!

[Death Pony]

This thing is AMAZING!!!!!! Imageshack isn't working for me right now.
http://www.37signals.com/svn/images/albinopeacock.jpg

[Tequila]

I believe these are called Ghost Crabs. And yes they taste great too.:popcorn:

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t145/boamaster/1209071515.jpg

[Death Pony]

I found an albino hedgehog at my lps, but it was asleep.

[malawi haps]

Check this little guy out!!

[Tequila]

Ok I think that all of us have gotten alittle off topic "WHITE IS BEAUTIFUL... SHOW ME YOUR ALBINO'S "TURTLES, TORTOISES, SNAKES, LIZARDS AND FROGS".

[Tequila]

Doesn't Anyone Else Have Anymore Albino's They Wanna Share With Everyone Else? :irked:

:popcorn:

[Nate_N_Nicole]

that is the cutest thing I have ever seen, wow I hope I still have my penis after that comment lol

[HPIZZLE]

tequila i cant see any of your pics besides the ghost crabs.

[kearth]

I have what i think might be a leucistic fire bellied toad.

I have a group of FR fire bellies and I pulled an odd looking tad from the tank of tads.

He can out of the water with white legs and and a grey body. Not the normal black. darkbrown that normal firebellies do.

i will get some updated pics of him soon and post them

[coura]

I have what i think might be a leucistic fire bellied toad.

I have a group of FR fire bellies and I pulled an odd looking tad from the tank of tads.

He can out of the water with white legs and and a grey body. Not the normal black. darkbrown that normal firebellies do.

i will get some updated pics of him soon and post them
Wow I knew it would happen sooner or later:D Cant wait to see him grown. A albino would be really cool

[kearth]

I am pretty sure he is not albino.

Although he is pretty small i dont think his eyes are red.

The light grey body is what is confusing me.

I can not wait to grow this guy up and breed him and see what i come up with. May be a couple year project but it is going to be exciting for me :-)

I seen some albinos for sale not too long ago. i am now kicking myself for not having the extra cash to pick some up. I got some money set aside so if they become available again I will have atleast a pair.

[packer43064]

My albino African Clawed Frog. I bred him with a regular ACF, so have little albino's now. :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/pack43064/DSCF0027-1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/pack43064/DSCF0061.jpg
Cute eh? lol


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/pack43064/DSCF0054.jpg

[packer43064]

These pics suck, but you all get it.

[AW2EOD]

My "albinos"...

Albino Tiger Retic
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/AW2EOD/DSC_0041.jpg

Albino Burmese Python (Tank)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/AW2EOD/DSC_0076.jpg

Albino Burmese Python
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/AW2EOD/DSC_0066.jpg

And, my pride and joys...Igor and Cruella
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/AW2EOD/AMC/1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/AW2EOD/AMC/4.jpg

[coura]

I am pretty sure he is not albino.

Although he is pretty small i dont think his eyes are red.

The light grey body is what is confusing me.

I can not wait to grow this guy up and breed him and see what i come up with. May be a couple year project but it is going to be exciting for me :-)

I seen some albinos for sale not too long ago. i am now kicking myself for not having the extra cash to pick some up. I got some money set aside so if they become available again I will have atleast a pair.
Albino bellies must be owesame:) Yours will be really cool too, however leucism causes the decrease of all pigment but lets wait and see:D

[kearth]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs4.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs3.jpg

Here he is :-)

Here is his siblings for comparison
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs6.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs7.jpg

[Diskboy12]

That is deff. a weird color varient of the FBT....nice though.




Kevin

[vaine111]

Here is my gf's Albino/Californian bunny named Rascal!

[Tequila]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs4.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs3.jpg

Here he is :-)

Here is his siblings for comparison
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs6.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/frogs7.jpg

Cute little Frogs, but there not Albino not even close. Please try to stay on topic.:irked: Thanx.
:popcorn:

[kearth]

Sorry about that.

There was a small discussion going on about him how I thought at one time he was albino then when he morphed he had a little color.

Delete the pics then if you must.

SO I am assuming Luecistic or what ever he is is not a form of albinonism?

[rmorse]

Cute little Frogs, but there not Albino not even close. Please try to stay on topic.:irked: Thanx.
:popcorn:


Chill dude.

[shells-n-scales]

not mine, but.... try and see if you can name the species.

and its not albino, looks more like its lucestic

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq72/shellsnscales/tortugas-albinas1.jpg

and of course you have to have a lucestic fly river too.

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq72/shellsnscales/105960modoki5-1.jpg

[Tequila]

not mine, but.... try and see if you can name the species.

and its not albino, looks more like its lucestic

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq72/shellsnscales/tortugas-albinas1.jpg

and of course you have to have a lucestic fly river too.

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq72/shellsnscales/105960modoki5-1.jpg

Super sweet looking Turtles, pictures don't have to be only albino, leucistic's are cool too.


Question you also got the photo of the Pignose/Flyriver off web too, I think know who took it.
:popcorn:

[coura]

not mine, but.... try and see if you can name the species.

and its not albino, looks more like its lucestic

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq72/shellsnscales/tortugas-albinas1.jpg

and of course you have to have a lucestic fly river too.

http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq72/shellsnscales/105960modoki5-1.jpg
Hummm Podocnemis expansa:confused: or maybe madagascar big head?

[coura]

Cute little Frogs, but there not Albino not even close. Please try to stay on topic.:irked: Thanx.
:popcorn:
Shesh what over kill:grinno:

[coura]

Sorry about that.

There was a small discussion going on about him how I thought at one time he was albino then when he morphed he had a little color.

Delete the pics then if you must.

SO I am assuming Luecistic or what ever he is is not a form of albinonism?
Im going another way, I say he is a hypo fire belly:D Super cool liltle toad, could be a new morph:naughty: $$$$$$ chaching

[kearth]

Super sweet looking Turtles, pictures don't have to be only albino, leucistic's are cool too.


Question you also got the photo of the Pignose/Flyriver off web too, I think know who took it.
:popcorn:

So my Leucistic or hypo toad does not count though.

I know he is not a snake or turtle but calm down a wee bit.

[kearth]

Im going another way, I say he is a hypo fire belly:D Super cool liltle toad, could be a new morph:naughty: $$$$$$ chaching


Hypo.... i can live with that..
Now I just need to figure out how to breed more of them.

If I breed him to his sibs ( out of 400 or so tads he has been the only one) and then breed the offspring back to him do I have a better chance of getting more?

I still have no clue how that works

I have a strange feeling he became more than a $5 toad :naughty:

[Tequila]

Hummm Podocnemis expansa:confused: or maybe madagascar big head?

I'll agree with lucestic Podocnemis expansa.
:popcorn:

[Tequila]

So my Leucistic or hypo toad does not count though.

I know he is not a snake or turtle but calm down a wee bit.

people I don't care if it's a toad, frog, snake, crab, mammal, insect etc,. As long as it's primarily white. Albino = No pink eye's then it isn't an albino! Doesn't take much to figure that one out. Leucistic on the other hand = Black eyes and many devoid of all other pigment, off white/pinkish too totally white body.

From what what I see of your frogs/toads there neither of these, animals don't grow into Albinos or Leucistics, that's the way there born period! With frogs and toads there tagpoles would be either or, or non at all. These traits are simple traits that are quite simple to define. Unlike many other traits found in nature.
:popcorn:

[Tequila]

Shesh what over kill:grinno:

Whatever, dude
:popcorn:

[kearth]

people I don't care if it's a toad, frog, snake, crab, mammal, insect etc,. As long as it's primarily white. Albino = No pink eye's then it isn't an albino! Doesn't take much to figure that one out. Leucistic on the other hand = Black eyes and many devoid of all other pigment, off white/pinkish too totally white body.

From what what I see of your frogs/toads there neither of these, animals don't grow into Albinos or Leucistics, that's the way there born period! With frogs and toads there tagpoles would be either or, or non at all. These traits are simple traits that are quite simple to define. Unlike many other traits found in nature.
:popcorn:
Ok let me explain this.

I did not say that he grew into a albino.

when he was a tad he was lighter than his siblings. When he sprouted back legs they were white.

When I seen the white legs I THOUGHT he might end up being albino. Not that he would eventually turn into an albino.

The 3rd picture was to compare what he should look like.

Ok so being that it is only partially white he does not count. That is fine. I seen pics of snake that are white and yellow... Must be ok since it is a snake.

No need to argue though I wont post any more pics to muck up your "white" thread. You might want to tell the other people who posted pics of non "white" animals this is an albino thread. Be fair

So what about HYPO where does that fall into the whole "albino" thing?

Please explain what you mean by either or none at all?

leucistic and hypo frogs dont happen? is that what you are saying?:irked:

[Tequila]

Ok let me explain this.

I did not say that he grew into a albino.

when he was a tad he was lighter than his siblings. When he sprouted back legs they were white.

When I seen the white legs I THOUGHT he might end up being albino. Not that he would eventually turn into an albino.

Excuss me what's the difference between ending up Albino and eventually turning Albino. Either the animal is Albino or it isn't. Meaning that if it was Albino it would be albino when it hatched. It doesn't become end up albino after it's no longer a tadpole. If it's Albino as a tadpole it will be Albino as a frog!

The 3rd picture was to compare what he should look like.

Ok so being that it is only partially white he does not count. That is fine. I seen pics of snake that are white and yellow... Must be ok since it is a snake.

The pics that you see that are yellow, orange and even pink are mainly snakes and lizards that are devoid of the black pigment found in normal coloured animals and this void is generally do to Albinism. Not to something that developes later.

No need to argue though I wont post any more pics to muck up your "white" thread. You might want to tell the other people who posted pics of non "white" animals this is an albino thread. Be fair

I don't really see a reason to do that since it's mainly self explantory:
WHITE IS BEAUTIFUL... SHOW ME YOUR ALBINO'S (http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93276)., Though I now wish I could alter the title some what to include Leucistics since there far whiter than even Albinos.

So what about HYPO where does that fall into the whole "albino" thing?

Hypos are just animal with less melanin to there skin than normal, a while some can be quite striking there not Albinos nor would you be able to produce albins by breeding to Hypo together.

Please explain what you mean by either or none at all?

Albinos and Leucistics are either Albino or Leucistics or there not

leucistic and hypo frogs dont happen? is that what you are saying?:irked:

I never said Leucistic or Albino frogs and toads don't exist or can't happen. What I am saying is when they hatch if there not Leucistic or Albino at that time then they won't be later on.

And you can post as many pictures as you like here, just try to keep them on subject.
:popcorn:

[kearth]

Once again please let me explain and please try to follow along.

When the frog was a tad it was white. You could see his insides.
When he sprouted legs they were white. Still following.....

Ok so yellow, pink and orange is ok... Light grey is not. Fine. I understand.



I do know what an albino is. I really do. You can not tell me from looking at the pics of the two different toads that one of them is not Hypo or leucistic or something that falls into your "white category"

With a white body and white legs I THOUGHT he was going to be an albino. After finishing morphing he developed some colors.... There for no an albino but I do believe Hypo.

As for you not turning into something else. READ the explaniation again.

I dont know if you know or not but tadpoles do not form in one day. Back legs first, them front legs... When you see 4 white legs on a white body .. What would you think?

I dont think he will turn into anything other than what he is now. Never said he would. You just keep instisting that I think he will change.

Lets agree to disagree.

Some non white things are allowed in your thread. But only as you see fit.

[rmorse]

people I don't care if it's a toad, frog, snake, crab, mammal, insect etc,. As long as it's primarily white. Albino = No pink eye's then it isn't an albino! Doesn't take much to figure that one out. Leucistic on the other hand = Black eyes and many devoid of all other pigment, off white/pinkish too totally white body.

From what what I see of your frogs/toads there neither of these, animals don't grow into Albinos or Leucistics, that's the way there born period! With frogs and toads there tagpoles would be either or, or non at all. These traits are simple traits that are quite simple to define. Unlike many other traits found in nature.
:popcorn:

Ok, my turn to post some pics!


http://www.constrictors.com/images/Boas/Albino/AlbinoBoa14.jpg

There we go, pink eyes! Must be albino! Wait, not primarily white. Damn. Ok, let me try again!

http://www.alanboschreptiles.com/Images/024.jpg

There we go, primarily white! Woohoo. Oh snap, no red eyes. :swear: Damn, let me try again.


http://www.davisconstrictors.com/albinoballpython2%282%29.jpg

Ok, red eyes = Check. Mostly white = ohh crap.

Let's try a mammal.

http://www.deer-forums.com/discus/messages/8/13802.jpg

Ok, I think I got this one. Albino, all white, but wait. Wtf? White eyes? Ok, now I'm confused.


Oh well. Maybe we should just post pics of abnormal animals that are lighter? Possibly albino or possibly leucistic? I mean, you clearly state that you want animals that are mostly white. Well, if a frog is normally dark brown/black, but pops up a very light colored tan, then I would say it's mostly white!

Little experiment for you, to help you understand this concept. Remember, ask mom first!

Go get your fingerpaint, ok? Take the white, and add a little bit of dark brown or black. Remember, just a little bit, so it's MOSTLY white. Mix them up reaaaaal good like, and tell me what color it makes. Better yet, ask mommy to take a picture of it!

[kearth]

I almost fell out of my chair on that one.... CLassic

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/longhaired.jpg

White cat .. Does that count? Ignore the brown lizard in the background

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/chainsaw.jpg

Any better?
I might get the hang of it.


LET'S SHOW OFF THOSE ALBINO'S, SNOWS AND ETC., is what was posted at the beginning.
i think the frog might be the new "ETC morph"

[coura]

Hypo.... i can live with that..
Now I just need to figure out how to breed more of them.

If I breed him to his sibs ( out of 400 or so tads he has been the only one) and then breed the offspring back to him do I have a better chance of getting more?
Yes you can

I still have no clue how that works
Thats why you need to test bred him or her;)

I have a strange feeling he became more than a $5 toad :naughty:
You can do that if you plan introduce new blood soon to avoid weak ofspring

[coura]

One of my leucistic het caramel toilets with a albino toilet paper roll, pretty hard to come by these days:popcorn::ROFL:
http://www.betterlifestylesinc.com/images/pictures/HomeToiletImage2.jpg

[kearth]

I can do that. I have some cash saved up to pick up an albino or two if I see them for sale again. Plus they are always available at the shows I do. Just finding semi healthy ones is a chore.

Thank you coura. I appreciate the help

[rmorse]

I can do that. I have some cash saved up to pick up an albino or two if I see them for sale again. Plus they are always available at the shows I do. Just finding semi healthy ones is a chore.

Thank you coura. I appreciate the help


Please try to stay on topic. :irked:

:popcorn:

[kearth]

Sorry I don't know what got into me.

:ROFL:

I almost bought a leucistic het caramel toilets with a albino toilet paper roll but the roll had some brown streaks so I had to pass.

:WHOA:

[rmorse]

Sorry I don't know what got into me.

:ROFL:






It's ok, just don't do it again. Oh, and change that avatar into something white.

[Tequila]

Ok, my turn to post some pics!


http://www.constrictors.com/images/Boas/Albino/AlbinoBoa14.jpg

There we go, pink eyes! Must be albino! Wait, not primarily white. Damn. Ok, let me try again!

http://www.alanboschreptiles.com/Images/024.jpg

There we go, primarily white! Woohoo. Oh snap, no red eyes. :swear: Damn, let me try again.


http://www.davisconstrictors.com/albinoballpython2%282%29.jpg

Ok, red eyes = Check. Mostly white = ohh crap.

Let's try a mammal.

http://www.deer-forums.com/discus/messages/8/13802.jpg

Ok, I think I got this one. Albino, all white, but wait. Wtf? White eyes? Ok, now I'm confused.


Oh well. Maybe we should just post pics of abnormal animals that are lighter? Possibly albino or possibly leucistic? I mean, you clearly state that you want animals that are mostly white. Well, if a frog is normally dark brown/black, but pops up a very light colored tan, then I would say it's mostly white!

Little experiment for you, to help you understand this concept. Remember, ask mom first!

Go get your fingerpaint, ok? Take the white, and add a little bit of dark brown or black. Remember, just a little bit, so it's MOSTLY white. Mix them up reaaaaal good like, and tell me what color it makes. Better yet, ask mommy to take a picture of it!

I almost fell out of my chair on that one.... CLassic

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/longhaired.jpg

White cat .. Does that count? Ignore the brown lizard in the background

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/porkchop48/chainsaw.jpg

Any better?
I might get the hang of it.


LET'S SHOW OFF THOSE ALBINO'S, SNOWS AND ETC., is what was posted at the beginning.
i think the frog might be the new "ETC morph"

One of my leucistic het caramel toilets with a albino toilet paper roll, pretty hard to come by these days:popcorn::ROFL:
http://www.betterlifestylesinc.com/images/pictures/HomeToiletImage2.jpg

Ok whatever ppl doesn't bother me as much as you would think it an Op comes in an deletes stuff or close the thread, not a problem to me.

What I do find interesting is the amount of pix that ppl post that aren't theres, but knowone says they have to be. I just wanted to get an idea and a look see of what others have seen or are willing to admit is there's.

I even enjoy Coura pet toilet, at least it is white. ;)

But all kidding aside I love the Pied Ball and the Freaky Kitty Eyes.
:popcorn:

[Tequila]

Once again please let me explain and please try to follow along.

When the frog was a tad it was white. You could see his insides.
When he sprouted legs they were white. Still following.....

Ok so yellow, pink and orange is ok... Light grey is not. Fine. I understand.



I do know what an albino is. I really do. You can not tell me from looking at the pics of the two different toads that one of them is not Hypo or leucistic or something that falls into your "white category"

With a white body and white legs I THOUGHT he was going to be an albino. WTF, stop saying you thought it was going to be Albino, Albinism starts prior to birth not after, nor during growth, if it isn't whenever your first saw it it isn't going to be later!!!. After finishing morphing he developed some colors.... There for no an albino but I do believe Hypo.
I give up, like I said whatever dudes. You don't know what Albinism is!

As for you not turning into something else. READ the explaniation again.

I dont know if you know or not but tadpoles do not form in one day. Back legs first, them front legs... When you see 4 white legs on a white body .. What would you think?

I dont think he will turn into anything other than what he is now. Never said he would. You just keep instisting that I think he will change.

Lets agree to disagree.

Some non white things are allowed in your thread. But only as you see fit.

Whatever Albinism happens prior to birth not after not after = Period!


Can't figure out what to breed it back try another frog of the opposite sex, it won't matter. If it's a simple recessive trait and the other don't show it at all, then breed it to another but after that breed the offspring back to it. This should produce a 50/50 clutch if it's a simple recessive trait. 50/50 = 50% normals and 50% whatever the trait is for.
:popcorn:

You ppl do whatever you want, I started this thread long long ago and I can see that it past it's prime and needs to go the way of the Floppy drive. :cry:

[rmorse]

Whatever Albinism happens prior to birth not after not after = Period!


Can't figure out what to breed it back try another frog of the opposite sex, it won't matter. If it's a simple recessive trait and the other don't show it at all, then breed it to another but after that breed the offspring back to it. This should produce a 50/50 clutch if it's a simple recessive trait. 50/50 = 50% normals and 50% whatever the trait is for.
:popcorn:

You ppl do whatever you want, I started this thread long long ago and I can see that it past it's prime and needs to go the way of the Floppy drive. :cry:

Erm, you do know you are talking to a breeder, right? You don't have to explain things like 50/50, or recessive, or albinism.

[Tequila]

Once again please let me explain and please try to follow along.

When the frog was a tad it was white. You could see his insides.
When he sprouted legs they were white. Still following.....

Ok so yellow, pink and orange is ok... Light grey is not. Fine. I understand.



I do know what an albino is. I really do. You can not tell me from looking at the pics of the two different toads that one of them is not Hypo or leucistic or something that falls into your "white category"

With a white body and white legs I THOUGHT he was going to be an albino. After finishing morphing he developed some colors.... There for no an albino but I do believe Hypo.

As for you not turning into something else. READ the explaniation again.

I dont know if you know or not but tadpoles do not form in one day. Back legs first, them front legs... When you see 4 white legs on a white body .. What would you think?

I dont think he will turn into anything other than what he is now. Never said he would. You just keep instisting that I think he will change.

Lets agree to disagree.

Some non white things are allowed in your thread. But only as you see fit.

Erm, you do know you are talking to a breeder, right? You don't have to explain things like 50/50, or recessive, or albinism.

Yeah breeder and collectors are like Lawyers a dime a dozen. ;) Everyone that has ever bred anything is a breeder. I have had and still have access to a good size collections and breeders and keepers of many reptiles. Everyone is an Expert, so what what about it, everyone has worked in the Pet trade at a Zoo or for a Wholesaler or Importer/Exporter, So what! Your no different than anyone else into Reptiles. :irked:

[Otolith]

I've a white dog and white horse (well mostly, when not caked in mud and grass stains) :)


http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/marymolotov/0007052kAqf.jpg
Anthony


http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/marymolotov/000m052kAqf.jpg?t=1252994744
Navarro....

^_^

[kearth]

Whatever Albinism happens prior to birth not after not after = Period!


Can't figure out what to breed it back try another frog of the opposite sex, it won't matter. If it's a simple recessive trait and the other don't show it at all, then breed it to another but after that breed the offspring back to it. This should produce a 50/50 clutch if it's a simple recessive trait. 50/50 = 50% normals and 50% whatever the trait is for.
:popcorn:

You ppl do whatever you want, I started this thread long long ago and I can see that it past it's prime and needs to go the way of the Floppy drive. :cry:

OMG what part do you not understand. First off I am not dude.

Do I need to speak slower and use smaller words?

When a tad sprouts white legs from a white body I THOUGHT it was an albino. Thought being the key word there. Try to follow along. Albino = white.
When I say "thought" I meant it. I did not mean that he was going to change colors. I "thought" he was going to continue to morph out being all white ( which is not what happened)

See the spots on his legs. Those have just showed up in the past 2-3 weeks.

The bigger he got he developed color. Which makes him not an albino. See I do know what an albino is. DEVELOPED COLOR. Have you never heard of that happening?

Frogs are not like snakes and lizards. You get to see them develop. not watch an egg and see what comes out. Is that the part you do not understand.

You mean if he is a male I have to breed him to a female. You don't say.

I have been breeding frogs ( darts and trees) for about 5 years now. I know not a long time. I don't work with zoo or importers. I do it all on my own. So the dime a dozen comment was a little off.

What are you breeding currently?


Now to work on the darn white avatar... this may take some thinking.

[coura]

OMG what part do you not understand. First off I am not dude.

Do I need to speak slower and use smaller words?

When a tad sprouts white legs from a white body I THOUGHT it was an albino. Thought being the key word there. Try to follow along. Albino = white.
When I say "thought" I meant it. I did not mean that he was going to change colors. I "thought" he was going to continue to morph out being all white ( which is not what happened)

See the spots on his legs. Those have just showed up in the past 2-3 weeks.

The bigger he got he developed color. Which makes him not an albino. See I do know what an albino is. DEVELOPED COLOR. Have you never heard of that happening?

Frogs are not like snakes and lizards. You get to see them develop. not watch an egg and see what comes out. Is that the part you do not understand.

You mean if he is a male I have to breed him to a female. You don't say.

I have been breeding frogs ( darts and trees) for about 5 years now. I know not a long time. I don't work with zoo or importers. I do it all on my own. So the dime a dozen comment was a little off.

What are you breeding currently?


Now to work on the darn white avatar... this may take some thinking.
You could get a pair of albinos, bred it with your odd one, bred them with each other and see what comes:naughty:

[rmorse]

You could get a pair of albinos, bred it with your odd one, bred them with each other and see what comes:naughty:

Then take a picture and Voila! New avatar.

[Dustonthecabnit]

i know it doesnt fit here but i love this pic
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j26/dustonthecabnit/P6060268.jpg

[kearth]

You could get a pair of albinos, bred it with your odd one, bred them with each other and see what comes:naughty:

Good thinking...

And then I could have that white avatar. Might be two years down the road but I am sure I can find this thread again.

[rmorse]

Good thinking...

And then I could have that white avatar. Might be two years down the road but I am sure I can find this thread again.


How about an avatar of those milky white.....nvm. :(

[Tequila]

OMG what part do you not understand. First off I am not
dude.

My bad, Ms., Miss or Mrs.,

Do I need to speak slower and use smaller words?

Oh please do, because unless these tads are super small when they hatch and even if they are they have eyes and or the eyes open prior to sprouting legs, correct?, then all one need do is look at the eyes - if they aren't pinkish-red it ain't an Albino regardless of what color the rest of it's body is. Do I need to say this slower or use smaller words or type larger?

When a tad sprouts white legs from a white body I THOUGHT it was an albino. Thought being the key word there. Try to follow along. Albino = white.

No you didn't (THOUGHT). Don't you remember making this statement back in post #65 "I am pretty sure he is not albino. Although he is pretty small i dont think his eyes are red". No red or pinkish-red eyes then it's not an Albino, regardless of whatever the rest of the body turns out like, even with such animals as the Paradox Boas which have patches of dark to black pigmentation on them, there eyes are pinkish-red so they're still classified as Albinos. Your the one that needs to try an follow along, you don't remember statements that you yourself made.:(

When I say "thought" I meant it. I did not mean that he was going to change colors. I "thought" he was going to continue to morph out being all white (which is not what happened) - See above.

See the spots on his legs. Those have just showed up in the past 2-3 weeks.

The bigger he got he developed color. Which makes him not an albino :duh:. See I do know what an albino is :irked:. DEVELOPED COLOR. Have you never heard of that happening?

Paradox boas have coloration or dark pigmentation, and they have pinkish red eyes which is why they are referred to have "Paradox ALBINO Boas". Color is not what makes your Frog not an Albino, it's the fact it doesn't have pinkish-red eyes.

Frogs are not like snakes and lizards. You get to see them develop. not watch an egg and see what comes out. Is that the part you do not understand.

When did I say what I've kept, bred or collected? And I probably have kept and bred just as many Frogs as you, maybe more. Actually I can say without reservation that I have kept more Dendrobatidae than most people.

You mean if he is a male I have to breed him to a female. You don't say.

No, actually I didn't say, but if you wanna be a smart-mule, that's fine with me.

I have been breeding frogs (darts and trees) for about 5 years now. I know not a long time. I don't work with zoo or importers. I do it all on my own. So the dime a dozen comment was a little off.

Actually I was making that statement to rmorse, in response to him/her stating that you or he/her was a breeder. Everyone thinks he/she is a breeder. Anyone that has ever bred something in this Hobby/Industry thinks they're a breeder. I would say that more than one third of sellers at all shows purchase there stuff from Importers and sell them as CB or CH, and others purchase stock from people that did breed them and sell them as there own, can you pick out which one they are?, probably not.

What are you breeding currently?


Now to work on the darn white avatar... this may take some thinking.

Currently hmmmmm,...... Boids (oh wait I don't breed them here anymore there on breeding loans, I just reap the rewards), Rhynchophis boulengeri (actually just rearing right now), Heterondon N. Nasicus (Albino), Trachemys Scripta Elegans (Albino), and I'm thinking about doing Megophrys nasuta again since I have a leaker 180gal tank available now, but I would really love to get a hold of a few juvinile/sub-adult Birgus Latro (They are just the coolest things and there edible but they do better in cages than tanks). And a few other items I don't wish to mention here right now. Plus in past years I have kept enough stuff to fill a small Zoo, minus the Lions, Tigers, Bears and Elephants that is.
:popcorn:

[kearth]

Round 3.


The tads are about 1/8 inch long so yes they are tiny. It does make it hard to see their eyes. Small enough that you could not really tell what color the eyes were. All I was able to tell was that his eyes were not the normal black color that they should have been.

After he sprouted legs and grew enough to really tell he was not an albino I knew he was not. I do not actually know what he is. Sorry if that makes me inferior to you.

When I say THOUGHT he was an albino I meant it. At that point in his development I THOUGHT he was albino. And I completely understand to be an albino the frog needs to have red eyes. It took quite a while to get to the point where you could actually tell what color his eyes were going to be. The last thing I wanted to do was take him out of the tank, stress him, and examine up close the color of his eyes.
I think you may be taking things too literal here.


You never did say what you kept, bred, collected. Only that you had access to a large collection. Not that you owned one only that you had access to a large collection.

Kept and bred just as many, maybe more than me... That is fine with me. What have you bred and what kind of darts have you kept and bred? Just curious there maybe after all the BS is done and over with you will realize that I am not that bad of a person and we can talk frogs. If not that is fine as well.

actually as for picking out who actually breeds what at shows. I probably can. But only the couple shows that I have been doing for the last couple of years. Not all shows. And that is only because I have been doing them and got to know the people, not that I am a so called expert.

When it comes to frogs though yeah there is a pretty good chance I can figure out if they bred it, bought it, imported it.

I have not kept enough stuff to fill a small zoo. I have no desire too. I enjoy working with I work with and dont need to have all kinds of different animals to care for.

[snakeguy101]

Kearth and Tequilla, get a room or get over it, seriously. and lets see some more pics. i will try to get some from work. Would a green hypo ball python make the cut? hypo is similar to albino....

[jason longboard]

Kearth and Tequilla, get a room or get over it, seriously. and lets see some more pics. i will try to get some from work. Would a green hypo ball python make the cut? hypo is similar to albino....only mods can set ppl up with rooms,not ppl with as low post count as you,so stop trying to pimp out the members:nutkick:

[kearth]

Kearth and Tequilla, get a room or get over it, seriously. and lets see some more pics. i will try to get some from work. Would a green hypo ball python make the cut? hypo is similar to albino....


Pay attention Hypos do not work either.

No need for the get a room comment. As Longboard said I really don't need a pimp.
Granted we are going back and forth with the occasional jab but we are not going for each others jugulars.
You really can just scroll right past the comments and move on to pics.

[Tequila]

Kearth and Tequilla, get a room or get over it, seriously. and lets see some more pics. i will try to get some from work. Would a green hypo ball python make the cut? hypo is similar to albino....

Hmmmm.......... since I actually started this thread, that kinda makes it my room already! To answer your question though I do believe the title of this thread still is " WHITE IS BEAUTIFUL... SHOW ME YOUR ALBINO'S". And the last time I checked Hypos aren't related to Albinos. Hypos are a dominate trait, while Albinism is a recessive trait. So to simplify the answer, No please don't post a pic of a hypo here.

Now if you please I gotta get back to Preparing for round 4. :FIREdevil


:popcorn:

[Tequila]

Round 3. Round 4.


The tads are about 1/8 inch long so yes they are tiny. It does make it hard to see their eyes. Small enough that you could not really tell what color the eyes were. All I was able to tell was that his eyes were not the normal black color that they should have been.

After he sprouted legs and grew enough to really tell he was not an albino I knew he was not. I do not actually know what he is. Sorry if that makes me inferior to you.

When I say THOUGHT he was an albino I meant it. At that point in his development I THOUGHT he was albino. And I completely understand to be an albino the frog needs to have red eyes. It took quite a while to get to the point where you could actually tell what color his eyes were going to be. The last thing I wanted to do was take him out of the tank, stress him, and examine up close the color of his eyes.
I think you may be taking things too literal here.

Could be, I've been know to be set in my ways a bit. :irked:


You never did say what you kept, bred, collected. Only that you had access to a large collection. Not that you owned one only that you had access to a large collection. Hmmmmm.

Kept and bred just as many, maybe more than me... That is fine with me. What have you bred and what kind of darts have you kept and bred? Just curious there maybe after all the BS is done and over with you will realize that I am not that bad of a person and we can talk frogs. If not that is fine as well.

If only to fill the void of your curiousity, see below...........

actually as for picking out who actually breeds what at shows. I probably can. But only the couple shows that I have been doing for the last couple of years. Not all shows. And that is only because I have been doing them and got to know the people, not that I am a so called expert. Hmmm... expert, hmmmmm sorry don't know many of them either.

When it comes to frogs though yeah there is a pretty good chance I can figure out if they bred it, bought it, imported it. Hmmmm.

I have not kept enough stuff to fill a small zoo. I have no desire too. I enjoy working with I work with and dont need to have all kinds of different animals to care for. Huh, wha, oh I see that's not real english is it, ok you caught me off guard there for a sec ;)

If after looking through the list of animals I have collected and bred or tried to breed, you aren't able to figure out that I have been in the hobby/trade for quite some time, well............ what can I say.

Been there did all of these and more :WHOA::WHOA::WHOA:, OMG the money I've spent :cry:.


Hots: Bitis gabonica (this is just crazy to keep these), Ophiophagus hannah, albino Naja Kaouthia & Bothriechis schlegeli to name a few (collected only).

Dendrobates: azureus, leucomelas, pumilio, tinctorius, phantasmal, auratus, historionicus, Imitator Intermedius, etc, etc.,.,
Phyllobates: terribilis, bicolor, aurotaenia,
Mantellas: madagascariensis, expectata, aurantiaca, pulchra, cowanii, bernhardi, milotympanum, etc, etc.,
Megophrys nasuta, Ceratophrys ornata, C. cranwelli, C. cornuta, Dyscophus gueneti


Odd Balls: Birgus latro (These are just the coolest things), HELLBENDERS aka (Cryptobranchus alleganiensis) - I perfer there common name on these.

Varanus: V. prasinus, V. exanthematicus, V. acanthurus acanthurus

Uromastyx: acanthinurus, U. aegyptia, U. hardwickii, U. ornata

Misc: Iguana iguana, Tupinambis rufescens, Pogona vitticeps, etc, etc.,


My greatest Love Hate Relationship:
Arachnids: Androctonus crassicauda, Leiurus quinquestriatus, Brachypelma smithi, Theraphosa blondi, Haplopelma lividum, Thrixopelma cyaneolum, Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens, Brachypelma emilia, Pterinochilus murinus, Pandinus imperator. (I really think most Arachnids all totally fascinating, from a far very far that is for I'm arachnophobic - go figure).

Boidae: Corallus caninus, Boa c. occidentalis, Epicrates c. cenchria, Chodropythons viridis, Python regius and Candoia carinata, Boa c. constrictor,

Geckoe: ranging from the Phelsuma, Eublepharis to Uroplatus.
Chameleons: Parsonii, Jacksonii, Calyptratus, Furcifer pardalis

Turtles: Chelus fimbriatus (an all time favorite), Platysternon megacephalum, Carettochelys insculpta (another favorite, wish I could still get these), Malaclemys terrapin, Chelydra serpentina, Macrochelys temminckii (another fav).

Presently:
Trachemys (albino), Chelus fimbriatus
Western Hognose (Albino and 100% Hets)
Rhynchophis boulengeri
Boa c. constrictor, c. imperator............



There are quite a few items I won't be listing here either for presently or past. Also note that the above list doesn't include any of the fish or small mammals and or birds that I have kept and or bred. Or any of the wild and insane ppl I have known over the years, but they know who they are :screwy:.

:FIREdevil

[rmorse]

Uhhh.....where the hell do you buy a freakin coconut crab?

[kearth]

Uhhh.....where the hell do you buy a freakin coconut crab?

or historionicus or hellbenders?

Just curious.

Round 6 will be coming soon.

I thought that last part was decent english. Not the best I have ever seen but decent.

any luck breeding the milos?

[Tequila]

Uhhh.....where the hell do you buy a freakin coconut crab?

You used to be able to import them or purchase them from an importer, I have never seen then in petshops for sale just @ a few wholesalers / importers many years back though. Though I believe last year or the year prior I purchsed a few what looked like Jumbo Moon Crabs or maybe they were Cardisoma guanhumi @ a local fruit market, any how they sure tasted good.

or historionicus or hellbenders?

Just curious.

Round 6 will be coming soon. What happend to Round 5?

I thought that last part was decent english. Not the best I have ever seen but decent.

any luck breeding the milos?

HELLBENDERS = Haven't been able in the pet trade for approx 25+ years. I know of knowone breeding either, though the state of Florida has some sort of giant Salamander thing in there water system, I once witnessed someone reel one in - butt Ugly. Wholesalers back then would keep them in wet news paper in the veggy section of a refrigerator as long as they didn't dry out they were fine. They would go into a state of hibernation.

For a little background on Hellbenders see: http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/7160.html


As for the Historionicus, don't hold your breathe chances there not available anymore unless you find a breeder somewhere, most of the really cool stuff now is a no no, or protected by CITES but only in this free country, everywhere else you can have whatever you want or can afford......... Welcome to America, land of the Free, home of the Brave where everything you want requires either a permit, license, certificate and or all three and each one has a different fee. :irked:

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[kearth]

I knew that about the Histos that is why I asked how you had them.

I actually do know two people with them though. Not a talked about alot frog.

But...

Did you have any luck breeding the milos?

[Tequila]

I knew that about the Histos that is why I asked how you had them.



I actually do know two people with them though. Not a talked about alot frog.

Well if you know ppl with them why ask me how? You should then know ppl don't like talking about things, even to ppl they know. This is why good breeders need to know good wholesalers and importers. Sometimes stuff that they never requested ends up in a shipment. Or stuff you wouldn't see at your local pet dealer are at the warehouse. Back in the day, now this is going way back the really big places used to sell to some of the zoos and big collectors so they had alot a strange stuff. :nilly:

But...

Did you have any luck breeding the milos?

To be honest I'm not into breeding things that small, plus back when I was getting them in we thought there was a endless supply so knowone really was too interested in them at least not me. Even to day I would rather put the effort into larger frogs like: Megophrys nasuta (will probably through a few of these together in my 180gal soon to be terrarium) , Ceratophrys ornata, C. cranwelli, C. cornuta, Dyscophus gueneti and others.

I had and still have a few friends that are still into breeding the small to tiny frogs. I've had a few frogs breed without doing very much at all except tossing them into a well developed terrarium with a good amount of food.

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[Tequila]

Here's a site with some of the best collection of Albinos & Amelanistic creatures. Nice!, back on topic.

Check it out:

http://www.disaboom.com/Blogs/saydrah/archive/2009/06/18/20-amazing-albino-animals-say-quot-different-is-beautiful-quot.aspx (http://www.disaboom.com/Blogs/saydrah/archive/2009/06/18/20-amazing-albino-animals-say-quot-different-is-beautiful-quot.aspx)

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[kearth]

Oh my,


I did not specifially mean who did you get them from. It was more of a they are not legal in this country how did you get them. Well not legal with out a ton of paper work.

So no luck breeding the milos then? I wish I did know some one breeding them so i could get some help on them.

I have no problem breeding any of my darts. Just like you said throw them into a nice viv and they do the rest.
Breeding small frogs works for me. I personally think the return is pretty good being a tiny little frog.

[Tequila]

Oh my,


I did not specifially mean who did you get them from. It was more of a they are not legal in this country how did you get them. Well not legal with out a ton of paper work.

So no luck breeding the milos then? I wish I did know some one breeding them so i could get some help on them.

I have no problem breeding any of my darts. Just like you said throw them into a nice viv and they do the rest.
Breeding small frogs works for me. I personally think the return is pretty good being a tiny little frog.

I will have to dig up my notes and see if I have any inside info breeding them. But as I recall they breed alot less often than most. what size viv you keeping them in and you doing just pairs or trios? Where is the water you mist them and use for there pool coming from? Your get nothing at all or you get eggs but there infertile? or what, the tads are dying shortly after hatching what?
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[rnbanjao]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/unawme/DSC_9822.jpg

[Tequila]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/unawme/DSC_9822.jpg

Nice, my first time seeing one of these in an Albino Suit it looks pretty cool. Is it yours?
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[rnbanjao]

Nice, my first time seeing one of these in an Albino Suit it looks pretty cool. Is it yours?
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[kearth]

I will have to dig up my notes and see if I have any inside info breeding them. But as I recall they breed alot less often than most. what size viv you keeping them in and you doing just pairs or trios? Where is the water you mist them and use for there pool coming from? Your get nothing at all or you get eggs but there infertile? or what, the tads are dying shortly after hatching what?
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Right now I am keeping a trio. Two more will be added this week.

There is a ton of calling but no eggs laying yet but one of them is extremely pudgy.

I use aged tap water on all my frogs.

I would appreciate any help. Even if you dont like my non albino toad ;)

[Tequila]

Right now I am keeping a trio. Two more will be added this week.

There is a ton of calling but no eggs laying yet but one of them is extremely pudgy.

I use aged tap water on all my frogs.

I would appreciate any help. Even if you dont like my non albino toad ;)


Ok, off the top of my head unless you live in a big city area with alot of polution in the air. I would suggest trying aerated aged rain water or bottled water. What is the size are these enclosure that you keep them in? What is the humidity like in them, how often do you mist them?, feed them and what if anything do you do to promote breeding season for them?
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[metalyx]

Snapped these on the return from Jacksonville. Hope they count.

[Tequila]

Snapped these on the return from Jacksonville. Hope they count.

They sure do! Thanx.
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[kearth]

Ok, off the top of my head unless you live in a big city area with alot of polution in the air. I would suggest trying aerated aged rain water or bottled water. What is the size are these enclosure that you keep them in? What is the humidity like in them, how often do you mist them?, feed them and what if anything do you do to promote breeding season for them?
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Temp is about 68 with a slight nighttime drop.

I have used the aged tap water for years will all my frogs but I can switched to bottled or the "good" water from the pet store. i would not trust the rain water around here.

No ideas on humidity. I dont not have guages in any of my tanks.
They etat crickets, min meal mworms, bean bettles, roach nypmhs etc daily. Misted daily

[snakeguy101]

Snapped these on the return from Jacksonville. Hope they count.

hey, i know that face, i have fed it a couple of times...

[Tequila]

hey, i know that face, i have fed it a couple of times...

Hopefully know one I know:D
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[metalyx]

--hey, i know that face, i have fed it a couple of times..--

At the farm at St. Augustine. I could spend a lifetime down there happily.

[Tequila]

Temp is about 68 with a slight nighttime drop.

I have used the aged tap water for years will all my frogs but I can switched to bottled or the "good" water from the pet store. i would not trust the rain water around here.

No ideas on humidity. I dont not have guages in any of my tanks.
They etat crickets, min meal mworms, bean bettles, roach nypmhs etc daily. Misted daily


Ok this is too much to go into here, it's way off topic etc etc., I wouldn't really give a dam but I don't wanna have any of the Ops go nuts on me or the thread. :nilly:

So if you would please just PM me. I'm sending your answers via PM if you don't mind.
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[rmorse]

Ok this is too much to go into here, it's way off topic etc etc., I wouldn't really give a dam but I don't wanna have any of the Ops go nuts on me or the thread. :nilly:

So if you would please just PM me. I'm sending your answers via PM if you don't mind.
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"OP" means original poster. That is you. So, unless you feel like you are going to trip out on yourself, I think you're good.

Mod's are the ones who would trip out. And they could care less if a thread is derailed as long as people aren't arguing. If you guys are discussing nicely, and giving each other info, it won't be closed.

[snakeguy101]

--hey, i know that face, i have fed it a couple of times..--

At the farm at St. Augustine. I could spend a lifetime down there happily.

yeah, i worker for a museum in jax and the gators that we kept there were on loan from ST. Augustine so i would go down and get behind the scenes tours and feed some of the cooler animals.

[Tequila]

"OP" means original poster. That is you. So, unless you feel like you are going to trip out on yourself, I think you're good.

Mod's are the ones who would trip out. And they could care less if a thread is derailed as long as people aren't arguing. If you guys are discussing nicely, and giving each other info, it won't be closed.

Hmmmm, I take it that that's your way of saying the you want in on the frog info that I was talking kearth about. thought you were just interested in info on getting a coconut crab, oh and a Redtail Boa.;)
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[davo]

Hmmmm, I take it that that's your way of saying the you want in on the frog info that I was talking kearth about. thought you were just interested in info on getting a coconut crab, oh and a Redtail Boa.;)
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It's your thread tequila, if you don't mind the chatter about frogs etc. instead of having a picture thread, that's up to you lol.

[evil_cricket]

these are my albino tiger oscars, where im from you maybe find one or two once in a blue moon. so i got mine when they were small.

the one you can see its fins are starting to get black which is from the background and gravel.

[rmorse]

Hmmmm, I take it that that's your way of saying the you want in on the frog info that I was talking kearth about. thought you were just interested in info on getting a coconut crab, oh and a Redtail Boa.;)
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Nah, I'm done picking up animals for awhile. I am never done learning though.

[Tequila]

Here is another good link to albinos:

http://grandpacliff.com/Animals/Albinos-FishRepAm.htm (http://grandpacliff.com/Animals/Albinos-FishRepAm.htm)

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