SHARKS

[MidasMan]

Who has kept a brownbanded bamboo shark b4?? i want to put one in a 120g for right now. :feedback: :feedback: :feedback: :feedback:

[Discfish34]

Are you planning on keeping him in that tank?

[MidasMan]

nah

[Ornatapinnis]

I have has several "bamboo" or "cat" sharks. Most likley what you have is Chiloscyllium Puntatum as it is the most common one available. THey are pretty hardy, not very agressive but will eat smaller fish and inverts. Don't put fish like large angels or triggers in with it, they pick on sharks and rays. They are mostly nocturnal but will be active in the day time when feeding the aquarium. They are stripped as juviniles but are mostly solid tan as adults. They normally will grow to about 36" or so, perhaps a little bigger but not much. I'd say it'll be ok in a 120 (4'x2'x2') for a couple years but as it grows it will need a larger tank like a 6 or 8 foot by 2 or 3 foot size to be comfortable. THey are not picky eaters, shrimp, squid, smelt, etc., mixed in with a multi complex food like ocean nutritions formula 1 or 2 is perfect for these guys. Don't feed it just one item, keep it varied so it gets everything it needs in it's diet. No gold fish or other freshwater feeders, that kind of diet is harmful to them in the long run. Do partial water changes often, they can be messy. Don't use medications in the water with sharks & rays, they don't tollerate parasite meds very well. If you don't have it yet, when you get it home, slowly drip water from your aquarium into the water it was sent home in. They shock and die pretty easily when transfered from one body of water to another to quickly. I do this with most all my fish but it's really important with sharks & rays.

Joel

[MidasMan]

what other types of smaller sharks that are easy to get other than the bamboos?

and what other types of fish would you b able to put in with these guys??

[Ornatapinnis]

There are several available that would need about the same as the banded like the white spotted or the marble. Other good choices would be the horn shark, either California or port Jackson. Epaulette sharks are very cool and easy to keep. There is a specie of wobegone (carpet) shark that a decent choice. I can't remember the scientific name for it but one of the wobegones don't get huge. Do your home work on that one because most of the wobegones get way to big. Smooth hound grey are cool and easy, I like leopards too but they need a pretty big aquarium and I don't think you can get little ones anymore. Don't get a nurse, they get way to big really fast. You could not give it away once it gets big.

Good tank mates are peacful eels like Zebra or snowflakes, Lion fish, most groupers (some are too mean), sting rays, Most puffers (some of the arothron might be a problem) Bat fish (they get huge though) Most cardinals are good, most tangs (some acanthurus are mean) Most snappers / soap fish or pork fish. Lots of good choices. Fish that nip or have sharp "beaks" are often times a problem. Many time wrasses of the thalasoma genis (or simular) are a problem. Most clowns would be ok as long as they were big enought. I'm sure that there are many others too.

Joel

[kentobizmol]

the smaller bamboo marine sharks need at least an 180gallon to keep.
although they are rather in-active sharks, they can get up to 2'.

DON"T GET the port jackson shark, they get pretty big for the aquarium. around 5'
and dA wabbagong shark can get big(4') plus their numbers in dA wild our getting lower.
also horn and nurse sharks can get up to 3~4'.

unless you have experience with marine sharks, i wouldn't advise you on getting any kind.
they are very hard to keep for begginer hobbyists.

instead you should try something else.
it seems like you want a fish that you can interact with so these can be great fish:
-snowflake eel
-fuzzy dwarf lionfish
-antenenetta lionfish
-peacock flounder
-niger triggerfish
-blue spotted pufferfish

they can all be hand-fed, although watch your hands from the lionfish's spine and the puffer and eel's teeth.
there is a risk that the flounder's eye can be eaten out by dA trigger and pufferfish.

also ORNATTAPINNIS mentioned that stingrays are good fish but they are also very hard to keep like the sharks.
the reason he has all thes fish is it seemslike he has experience with marine predators.

so let me know if you have worked with marine carnivorous predators before.

ORNATTAPINNIS, pictures would be awesome!
i luv the port jacksoni shark!

[DeLgAdO]

i thought port jackson grow to only 4 feet while 3 ft is more realistic?

[kentobizmol]

also he mentioned that you can "GIVE AWAY" your fish once it gets big.
not many people would be nice enough to put a 4'nurse shark in their reef tank that they just bought!
and since there is nobody to claim the shark, you will probably dump the fish into the sea.
non-native predators like exotic sharks can easily kill the US native fish.
people like him are the reason people like me can't keep fish that we want.
the state simply makes them illegal to keep.

[kentobizmol]

i thought port jackson grow to only 4 feet while 3 ft is more realistic?

they are medium sized sharks that get up to 4~5feet.
the average is 3~5'; which is still big for a small home "aquarium"

my friend has a black-tip reef shark(which are active sharks) but it's in some giant tank that is big enough for the fish to swim, feed, not interfere with obstacles, etc.
and swim happily.
you need LARGE tanks to house sharks.
they are left better in public aquariums or my friend's tank.

[Ornatapinnis]

Ports, althought are listed as getting up to 5 feet rarly do. I had one for several years and sold it to a customer who still has it. From the time I bought it to now has been about 6 years, it's almost 3 foot but not quiet. I chalk this up to, how big does a north american large mouth bass get? According to the books they can get really big, 15 pounds +. I have been an avid fishermen for my entire life, never saw a bass any where near that size althought I do agree they exist.

Nurse sharks get way bigger than 4 ft. I have seen them in the Keys pushing 9' and have seen pictures of them over 10'. My advise about nurse sharks is to not get one. I did not say that you could give it away when it got to large, I said that you could not give it away. I was insiuating that knowone would want it and you wouldn't even be able to give it away for free. Another question about this, Kento; who is it your refering to when you stated "people like him are the reason people like me can't keep the fish we want"? ME?

I'll have to do some research but there is a wobegone specie that stays about 3 to 4 ft or so. I have had a couple of them in my shop but I never kept one personally long term. I did have a tasseled wobegone about 15 years ago that got huge real fast. It was donated to the Columbus Zoo.

Many skates and rays are simple to keep like yellows, cortex and Calaifornia. All of these stay small enough to keep in a home aquarium. If a person has the knowledge and equipment to keep the water quality correct, they are easy. Avoid southern rays as they get way to big and avoid blue spotted rays, they don't adjust to captivity very well.

Snow flake moray eels don't have teeth. Antenatta lion fish are not an easy species of lion to keep. Peacock flounders are picky eaters and mostly want live food althought they can be taught to eat dead, they also get over 18".

Joel

[guppy]

There are six species listed as wobbegongs, so far I have only seen profiles onthe tasselated, ornate, and spotted, all of which get at least 10' long and although usually slow moving can be aggresive and eat fish almost there own size, once they bite they don't let go, this picture shows a small one that was annoyed by a diver off Australia,

Heterodontus sharks stay smaller and grow slowly, the Pt. jackson shark is H. portusjacksonii and grows too 5'6" but rarely gets much more than 48", the H. japonicus is also called a Pt. Jacksons shark and is virtually identical but only gets to 48" maximum and is usually closer to 36", two relatives that I find interesting are from the western indian ocean and if you could find them might work, they are H. omanensis which only gets to 22 1/2", and the slightly larger whitespotted bullheaded shark (H. ramalheira) that gets to 25 1/2". Neither would be reef safe.

[Ornatapinnis]

That tasseled we had was about 36". We special ordered it in for a guy at about 10" we got it back within a year. It was a shop fish for a while but we decided to donate it because of how big it was and was going to get. (this might piss off a few people) When it was about 3' we fed it a 10 to 12 inch oscar, in one gulp, the oscar dissapered, it got the whole oscar in it's mouth in one slurp!!!! THat was unbelievable. Befoe I start getting hate mail about feeding an oscar to a shark, the oscar was deformed from being kept in too small of an aquarium.

Joel

[Ornatapinnis]

Guppy;

I saw a news report when I was in the Keys a couple years ago where a little nurse shark did the same thing as the tassel in the picture you posted. This little nurse was attatched to the middle of this guys chest and wouldn't let go. The pictures I saw were this guy in an emergency room with a shark latched onto his chest. That was funny. I don't know how long it held on but it must have been a while if he was at the hospital with it still there.

Talk about a serious hickie!!!! Ouch!!!!

Joel

[Zoodiver]

There are a few sharks out there that are better for home aquariums. Bamboos and cats are some of the best I've seen talked about here. There are smaller species of wobs, and those will work, as long as the pup is identified correctly. Port Jacksons do well, but require cooler water temps. Be prepared for that if going that route.

Someone mentioned black tips...not sure who, though. Not a good choice. Of the two sub-species (Pacific and Altantic) the Pacific do ok in captivity, but you're looking at a tank in the 20,000 gallon or more range. They should see 5 or 6 feet and need alot of horizontal space to swim and NO CORNERS. Atlantics just don't do well. The reasons are still being debated. They too will require LOTS of swimming space. I kept 3 Atlantics as part of a research program about two years ago. All three were wild caught (With permits) as pups. I'll see if I can post pics of them tonight from home. None lasted, dispite my best efforts. They were in a well established 15,000 gallon.

[Ornatapinnis]

I find that interesting, I have had the exact experience with the atlantic black tips. I have never had one live thru the shipping much less in an aquarium. The black tips and white tips I get trans shipped from Bali come in alive and typically acclimate into our aquariums prett well. I'd love to know why the ones from Florida die and the ones from the other side of the world live. I would think the shorter travel distance would help.

I don't intend buying them anymore, I think they are very cool but I no longer have anything large enough to keep one in...for now anyway.....

Joel

[Zoodiver]

I hope to have the answer soon. It's one of the research projects I'm working on the side. Nobody has an answer yet for it. The three I had were a hard loss for me. They weren't in the best tank (due to a major corner). But they were doing very well. Sadly, I lost them due to keeper error while on my day off. They were in an exhibit with two green moray eels (both 2 meter animals). I had been getting in and hand feeding the eels to keep them off of my shark pups. The back up on my day off thought it was too much work to get in and make sure they ate. I lost my black tips one by one to the eels. I did recover two bodies after a regurge from the eel. I kept the "skeletons" for educational use. I think somehow we're missing a variation in the water. Here are some shot while they were still around. Both were feeding well once acclimated to the tank.

[Ornatapinnis]

Cool pics, sorry to hear about the loss. Ever feel like nothing is going to be done right unless you do it your self? (I do all the time)

I like the green morays but like you said, they are eating and killing machines. I currently (and thankfully) don't have any greens. I found a customer with a really large aquarium to buy my last one. I sold and bought it back several time over about 5 years. Kept getting bigger & bigger. Now hopfully I'm thru with this one.

Your therory is its a water parameter related issue that they do poorly. What do you think is missing or is present that causes the loss? I have had bonnets and lemmons from the same area I got the black tips and had very little problems with them. I wonder why it would affect one fish ond not another. I guess I have got nurse pups from the same area that don't seem to be phased by anything. I am very curious abouty your findings, I've wondered about this for a very long time. Keep us posted.

Joel

[kentobizmol]

Another question about this, Kento; who is it your refering to when you stated "people like him are the reason people like me can't keep the fish we want"? ME?


Snow flake moray eels don't have teeth. Antenatta lion fish are not an easy species of lion to keep. Peacock flounders are picky eaters and mostly want live food althought they can be taught to eat dead, they also get over 18".

Joel

no i wasn't reffering to u, just using your reply as an example.
by the way; are marine stingrays legalto keep in CA?

o.k., snowflake eels have something, since i got bit by one, not too hard and it started bleeding like sh*t!
try volitans instead, they look alike but much easier to keep!

oh there are many types of wabbagong sharks??

so u hav like a marine fish shop?
dAts tight!

[kentobizmol]

zoodiver; those are some big-as* tanks!
show me more pictures!!

i'll post my friends bamboo and blacktip

[Ornatapinnis]

I would have to assume that saltwater rays are legal in Cali because I buy them from distributors in the L.A. area regulary. The fresh water distributors in Cali do not have rays and say they are not alloud to have them. The cortez and California rays are collected in California. The Yellow is carribean though. You should be able to get a cortez or California ray for about $60.00 retail, they are cheap and easy to keep. Just drip acclimate for 1/2 hour to an hour befor dropping in your aquarium. Pretty cool little rays and they get real tame real fast, eat out of your hand in just a few weeks.

Joel

[kentobizmol]

hey; can you give me the website of people who sell s/w rays in l.a.?

[Ornatapinnis]

THe people I buy from are whole salers and importers and won't sell to the public however I'm sure that any local salt water shop can get them. THe local shops often time have the nicest fish because they can go to the whole saler and hand pick thier fish them selves. Mabye ask here at MFK for shop suggestion in your area, seems like there are many members out in Cali.

Joel

[Zoodiver]

Ever feel like nothing is going to be done right unless you do it your self? (I do all the time)

Yes, all the time. I hated taking days off.


Your therory is its a water parameter related issue that they do poorly. What do you think is missing or is present that causes the loss? I have had bonnets and lemmons from the same area I got the black tips and had very little problems with them. I wonder why it would affect one fish ond not another. I guess I have got nurse pups from the same area that don't seem to be phased by anything. I am very curious abouty your findings, I've wondered about this for a very long time. Keep us posted.

Joel


I've had bonnets, scalloped, sharp nose, bulls and black tips all pulled from the same area. Only lost the black tips. All were collected in the same mannor and transported in the same vehicle, same style holding containers, same water etc....

This Summer I'll be going back to do another run to collect more data and try to rule out more factors. Based on what we have right now, it looks like they are just that much more sensative. I'm working on getting some GPS style tracking tags for them to watch where they are moving. My guess is they stay were water is "best", unlike nurses and bulls who will venture almost anywhere that will keep their gills wet.

[Ornatapinnis]

I don't like bull's they are too fearless and un predictable. I get out of the water if I see one. In the last year or so I read where some one caught one fishing 200 miles up stream from the gulf in full blown fresh water. I can't remember where it was but thought that was weird that they would venture that far for food. I knew they went brackish & fresh but that's a long way up stream.

Nurse sharks are dumb. I was down in lower sugar loaf and could catch these things by hand or with a net. I had one that would come over to the pier and try to steal pin fish out of my bait basket, I had to zip tie the bottom of the basket shut. I netted this same nurse shark out of the water and let it go way down the beach several times. YOu'd think after being caught in a net it would at least swim away when it saw me or the net comming, not this one.....

[kentobizmol]

THe people I buy from are whole salers and importers and won't sell to the public
Joel
then how did they sell them to u?
are u a zoo keeper?

[guppy]

then how did they sell them to u?
are u a zoo keeper?
I would assume he has a retailer's liscense and tax #,and also buys in bulk. Up here a general retailers liscense only costs $28 a year and is very handy in buying things at gem shows and such.

[Zoodiver]

I don't like bull's they are too fearless and un predictable. I get out of the water if I see one. In the last year or so I read where some one caught one fishing 200 miles up stream from the gulf in full blown fresh water. I can't remember where it was but thought that was weird that they would venture that far for food. I knew they went brackish & fresh but that's a long way up stream.


Bulls have been found more than 1200 miles into freshwater rivers (including all the way up the Mississippi River), and in South America, there are areas with strickly freshwater bulls showing up. Alot of my field work was done in a river fed lake/estuary that connected to the Gulf of Mexico. The highest poplulations of them were up close to the mouth of the river.

And I have to laugh, because what you said about nurse sharks is so true!!

[SmOk3y]

they are medium sized sharks that get up to 4~5feet.
the average is 3~5'; which is still big for a small home "aquarium"

my friend has a black-tip reef shark(which are active sharks) but it's in some giant tank that is big enough for the fish to swim, feed, not interfere with obstacles, etc.
and swim happily.
you need LARGE tanks to house sharks.
they are left better in public aquariums or my friend's tank.

do u got a pic of your friends tank with the shark :grinyes:

[Ornatapinnis]

then how did they sell them to u?
are u a zoo keeper?


I own an aquarium shop

[kentobizmol]

ORNATTAPINNIS; do you think you can send me a shipment of shakrs in my area?
and SMOKEY; i found pictures of his leopard sharks(they are very active!!)
i couldn't find the black-tip.


so whoever posted this thread; needs to re-consider buying sharks since even the "in-active" ones can be very active(and need large swimming areas)

[Ornatapinnis]

Sure I can but I don't suggest it. Most anything I could ship you a local good aquarium shop can get. THe shipping on a box of fish is pretty expensive, lots cheaper if you can pick them up your self. THey also acclimate alot easier if you get them home quickly. If I were you, I'd save myself the money on shipping and the acclimation risk. I'm not saying no but your better off dealing with a good local guy.

The leopard sharks in the picture you posted are now illegal but living in Cali I bet you can still get one. They are very active though, not bottom dwellers like the bamboo or cat sharks. THey need some room to move,

Joel

[kentobizmol]

are you saying i can get a leopord since the monteray beach is close to me??

so they(any shark) are illegal to keep in CA?

[Ornatapinnis]

My collector in Cali that I deal with told me that baby leopard sharks are illegal to collect and sell. He won't get them for me because he doesn't want to get busted for possesion of them. I believe he told me that they are leagal to collect and posess at 36".

All the other sharks mentiond here are legal to posess in Cali as far as I know. My transhipments come thru LA and are legal to be there.

The reason I say that you may be able to get one is because you live where they are from. Go fishing or get to know a local diver and flip him a few bucks...

[guppy]

I don't know about Monteray bay but fish on the flats next to Alameda and you will have no problem catching leopards.

[Ornatapinnis]

Yup, that's what I'm getting at. Pups are out of season now though. May be hard to find a little guy. Next late spring they will be around though....

[Zoodiver]

Check the laws regarding sizes and species. In most places without a special permit issued to you, it's illegal to keep any shark under 36" that you pull from the wild. The studies and collections I've been involved with all required mounds of paper work and permits to pull off what we did. Even with them (the state) knowing exactly when and where we'd be, we were stopped on several occations to check our permits.

[Ornatapinnis]

I litterally just got off the phone with wholesaler in L.A. He said that leopards must be 36" to be legal.

[magic]

I dont recommend Leopards because u need a HUGE aquarium to keep them. They can grow to 7'. And are very active. If u can get leopards there u probably can get horn or puffer sharks, which probably wont grow much over 3'.

[gnorts]

i like a boxfish myself

[sharkdealer]

The reason the florida blacktips (Carcharhinus limbatus) don't readily survive is that they have a really high oxygen demand. I currently have one that I brought back to CA from the Gulf of Mexico. The transport process is highly involved and complicated but they seem to do well once acclimated. The blacktips seen at some pet stores and wholesalers is Carcharhinus melanopterus. It ships very well in standard fish boxes and can easily survive 48 hour transits. The florida blacktips are also a little more high strung and therefore need more room than the C. melanopterus. Most sharks and rays are legal to keep in CA but freshwater sharks and rays are not (unless you have a permit). Leopards(Triakis semifasciata) cannot be posessed in CA unless they are at least 36" long and be prepared to show proof that you obtained it legally. If you want to collect a live one yourself you will need a marine aquaria collectors permit from the CA DFG.

[SmOk3y]

ORNATTAPINNIS; do you think you can send me a shipment of shakrs in my area?
and SMOKEY; i found pictures of his leopard sharks(they are very active!!)
i couldn't find the black-tip.


so whoever posted this thread; needs to re-consider buying sharks since even the "in-active" ones can be very active(and need large swimming areas)

Thx for the pic's need to get 4 more post to see them only
can't wait so posting allott now :grinno:

[SmOk3y]

Thx for the pic's need to get 4 more post to see them only
can't wait so posting allott now :grinno:

i think i done something wrong, wrong post...

[SmOk3y]

i think i done something wrong, wrong post...

no oops went k

ps every1 here lives in the usa i asume or?

i myself am living in australia perth had a port jackson shark but got stuck and died :( looking to buy a new shark now ofcourse i empt those things where he could get stuck the next time don't want to lose another 1

is any1 able to send them to Australia, Perth?
import laws ect? or has any1 :grinyes: send something before to AUSTRALIA?

a few more post to go :woot:

[SmOk3y]

ORNATTAPINNIS; do you think you can send me a shipment of shakrs in my area?
and SMOKEY; i found pictures of his leopard sharks(they are very active!!)
i couldn't find the black-tip.


so whoever posted this thread; needs to re-consider buying sharks since even the "in-active" ones can be very active(and need large swimming areas)


Well i posted 5 post wanted to see the photo's but i can't still

Would i need more to post?

or do i need to pay or something if i want to see pic's

[SmOk3y]

ORNATTAPINNIS; do you think you can send me a shipment of shakrs in my area?
and SMOKEY; i found pictures of his leopard sharks(they are very active!!)
i couldn't find the black-tip.


so whoever posted this thread; needs to re-consider buying sharks since even the "in-active" ones can be very active(and need large swimming areas)

finally i can see them now could't find the blacktip when u find it let me know
i love them sharks but can't house them to small tank

[Ornatapinnis]

[QUOTE=SmOk3y]no oops went k



is any1 able to send them to Australia, Perth?
import laws ect? or has any1 :grinyes: send something before to AUSTRALIA?

THe true Port Jackson is from Australia, you don't need to have some one import one to you. Ask a local shop to get one in for you.

Your in Perth huh? I think that's where Fear Factory recorder thier video to Cyberwaste. Yeah I know, way off the topic.... :D

[guppy]

Welcome to MFK, as you found out the site is free, it just takes a few minutes to update the post counts.
There are many fine fish from Australia, including quite a few that just don't show up in the US. We also have several members there though offhand only Adelaide pops to mind. Some of my favorites are at least partly protected, the Galaxias like the jelly bean jollytail. Others like the golden perch just don't get shipped here.
Stone Like Fish, Capo, and Steve89 are all Aussies.
Smok3e is Dutch but lives in Perth!

[Zoodiver]

The reason the florida blacktips (Carcharhinus limbatus) don't readily survive is that they have a really high oxygen demand. I currently have one that I brought back to CA from the Gulf of Mexico. The transport process is highly involved and complicated but they seem to do well once acclimated.

What size did you transport? We were doing pups last time out. Animals were all about 20" or so. Our water was 1.022 with a DO of around 7.0-7.8 depending on how the 02 tank was working. Hardly oxygen starved, but at the same time, far from saturation at the temp we had. All transports were large enough for full swimming.

[SmOk3y]

Welcome to MFK, as you found out the site is free, it just takes a few minutes to update the post counts.
There are many fine fish from Australia, including quite a few that just don't show up in the US. We also have several members there though offhand only Adelaide pops to mind. Some of my favorites are at least partly protected, the Galaxias like the jelly bean jollytail. Others like the golden perch just don't get shipped here.
Stone Like Fish, Capo, and Steve89 are all Aussies.
Smok3e is Dutch but lives in Perth!

Thx Yeah they got allot of fish in oz but most of them are illigal to have
or i need to have zoo licences ect to kepe them :D

YEAH port jackson shark is from here but aint after them lfs here they had 3 of them few weeks ago all gone now but not sure if i want another1 port then

I'm more looking for some kind of bamboo shark or some small catshark or any smaller shark that look like a great white or lemon shark i like their form ect
Or if australia can get Atlantic Sharpnose Sharks Love to have them saw them first time few days ago on ebay some1 is selling them in the USA ofcourse
how come usa can sell fish on ebay and australia can't it sucks.....
but if i live in usa and want to buy these sharks i would if i could......
not sure if i'm alloud to post the following url, will see
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pair-of-Atlantic-Sharpnose-Sharks_W0QQitemZ7726462776QQcategoryZ66795QQssPage NameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

PS: IS ANY ABLE TO IMPORT THESE Atlantic Sharpnose sharks To Australia?

[guppy]

Oz does it opposite of most countries, they have a list of what is allowed, if it is not on the list it can't be imported, other places have lists of what is forbidden, if not on their lists it is allowed.

[Ornatapinnis]

The question of can someone send you a shark to Australia.... I'm sure it can be done but I'm also sure there are some legal hoops to jump thru first. Here in the states, you must have the correct import permits to recieve live animals. I don't know what the laws are over there...

Again, I don't know what the laws are over there, what is legal to import and what is not but bamboo / cat sharks are also indigneous to Australia, you wouldn't need to import them either.

Do you have a good local salt water shop? If so, they will know what you can and can not get better than someone over here in the USA.


Joel

[fishboy]

ive hatched a banded cat shark before and had him in my 125 up untill he was about 17" then i gave him away to a cadalac dealership which had 2 600gallon aquariums in it.

[AquaticAggression]

Bamboos are a relitively easy to keep shark just watch to ensure they can't jump out. Baby Horns are they same

[sharkdealer]

What size did you transport? We were doing pups last time out. Animals were all about 20" or so. Our water was 1.022 with a DO of around 7.0-7.8 depending on how the 02 tank was working. Hardly oxygen starved, but at the same time, far from saturation at the temp we had. All transports were large enough for full swimming.


We brought back 18-20 inchers. Our water parameters almost identical to yours with the O2 slightly higher. Did you maintain proper pH during the transport? Did you also knock down the ammonia during transport? What was the size of the transport tank and what water temp. was the transport water?

[sharkdealer]

The question of can someone send you a shark to Australia.... I'm sure it can be done but I'm also sure there are some legal hoops to jump thru first. Here in the states, you must have the correct import permits to recieve live animals. I don't know what the laws are over there...

Again, I don't know what the laws are over there, what is legal to import and what is not but bamboo / cat sharks are also indigneous to Australia, you wouldn't need to import them either.

Do you have a good local salt water shop? If so, they will know what you can and can not get better than someone over here in the USA.


Joel


From what I've been told by collectors in oz is that elasmobranchs (sharks, rays and chimaeras) cannot be imported to Australia. Don't hold me to that though.

[sharkdealer]

hey; can you give me the website of people who sell s/w rays in l.a.?

you can contact me or go to www.sharksondemand.com

[sharkdealer]

What size did you transport? We were doing pups last time out. Animals were all about 20" or so. Our water was 1.022 with a DO of around 7.0-7.8 depending on how the 02 tank was working. Hardly oxygen starved, but at the same time, far from saturation at the temp we had. All transports were large enough for full swimming.

Forgot to mention that we collected spinner sharks (C. brevipinna) as well. They were 24 inches long and they actually transport and do quite well, even better than the limbatus. I'll try to bring some more back this spring/summer.

[Zoodiver]

We had a 28 ft truck (like a moving truck) with 3 large containers in the back. Our temp ran between 78-80. Water we were pulling from was about the same. We had a guy in tha back watching the parameters with the good old YSI meter and making adjustments as needed. We had one of the tanks on board to use for H20 changes as needed. We had all the chemicals and crap too, but I hate using them, especially with a stressful situation like this.

All of the tanks were plumbed in with circulation pumps to keep water moving and some what filtered.