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hemiboo
11-10-2005, 12:48 PM
I had two figure 8 puffers in a 20 gal tank. One of them stopped eating and died last week RIP. My question is what else would maek a good tankmate for the solitary poofer. Any thoughts would be a help
jenBLKAROWANA
11-10-2005, 12:51 PM
If you have a brackish tank....Get a couple of Knight Gobies....They only get to be about 3" in size, and are a peacful fish!
Jen ;)
hemiboo
11-10-2005, 2:53 PM
they would get along with a puffer?
jenBLKAROWANA
11-10-2005, 3:26 PM
Yes....I have seen them housed with each other....I have a couple of Knoght Gobies, and I love them...I have them with scats & monos....they would get too big for your 20 gal, but the Gobies would be just fine!
Jen ;)
blacktip
11-10-2005, 3:36 PM
Knight gobies are very cool. I had a pair of them in a 60 gallon community tank. I love the fact that they look and swim differently than "typical" fish. I'm thinking about getting a small group of them for my 100.
jenBLKAROWANA
11-10-2005, 3:52 PM
I just happend to get a male & a female at the LFS....They are soo happy in the 90gal I have them in....They have spawned 2 times already! The eggs never last, but hey...Its cool to watch them "dance" around....
Jen ;)
DeLgAdO
11-10-2005, 3:55 PM
your puffers probably died because its teeth got overgrown and it couldnt eat.
puffers teeth need to be checked every month and trimmed when nessesary
jenBLKAROWANA
11-10-2005, 3:59 PM
your puffers probably died because its teeth got overgrown and it couldnt eat.
puffers teeth need to be checked every month and trimmed when nessesary
WHAT???? I have never ever heard of that.....are you joking?
Jen ;)
WHAT???? I have never ever heard of that.....are you joking?
Jen ;)
I did not know they would die from it but I have seen several recomendations to feed them snails and clams that have been cracked but not shucked. Thet need the shell to wear down their teeth.
Mourinho18
11-10-2005, 5:06 PM
I did not know they would die from it but I have seen several recomendations to feed them snails and clams that have been cracked but not shucked. Thet need the shell to wear down their teeth.
i have heard this. did you have the POOFER :D in a freshwater or brackish?
Ornatapinnis
11-10-2005, 5:13 PM
It would be extremly rare that a puffers teeth over grow it's mouth to the point where the can't eat. I have read about it and heard about it but in pushing 20 years of dealing with fresh and salt water puffers, I have never witnessed it. I have my doubt to weather or not it can even happen. As much as they "test taste" everything including gravel and decorations, thier teeth should be fine.
I'm not very experienced with figure 8 puffers, I've had them to sell to people at the shop but I never had one personally long term. They don't seem to be as mean as some of the other puffers are. I'm sure many here have had them long enough to give some advise on tank mates for one (Jen's suggestion for example).
Also, what it was that killed your puffer is a great question. YOu may want to do a little investigation before getting new fish if you haven't all ready. (water quality for example)
DeLgAdO
11-10-2005, 8:00 PM
WHAT???? I have never ever heard of that.....are you joking?
Jen ;)
im serious
DeLgAdO
11-10-2005, 8:01 PM
for those of you who dont know
theirs an article about it in tropical fish hobbiest magazine
i believe it's either the november or october issue
DJORDAN
11-12-2005, 11:57 AM
A puffer generally 20 gal. of tank space each. Puffers do not get along with other fish very well unless the other fish are faster and larger than the puffer. I put snail shells in my Brackish water tank for the puffers to bite on. This helps keep their teeth trimmed up. Snails can't live in the water because of the salt. I have had mine for about 19 months so far and no problem as of yet.
Pufferpack
11-20-2005, 11:36 AM
It would be extremly rare that a puffers teeth over grow it's mouth to the point where the can't eat
It all depends on the species, Colomesus asellus (South American puffers) have the fastest tooth growth of all the puffers, and even with a steady diet of snails and other crunchy foods teeth trimming may still be necessary every 6 months or so. Auriglobus modestus are another species that require occasional trimming, but the bulk of puffers should not need to be trimmed if they have crunchy foods in their diet.
A puffer with overgrown to the point that they can no longer eat may well starve to death over the course of a few weeks, but the overgrowth is so pronounced that you would notice it long before it got to the point of affecting their eating.
Here is one of my pics showing severe overgrowth on one of my C.asellus, and normal growth on the other one.
http://www.aquaria.info/modules/gallery/albums/pufferpacks/Colomesus_Pair.sized.jpg
Pufferpack
11-20-2005, 11:58 AM
and here is one of my A. modestus with some overgrowth.
http://www.aquaria.info/modules/gallery/albums/pufferpacks/IM004454.sized.jpg
guppy
11-20-2005, 12:14 PM
Hiya Pufferpak, welcome to MFK, loks like smiley puffers are not a good thing. The only one I had was a biocellatus years ago that was a murderous little bastard I promptly traded off.
Pufferpack
11-20-2005, 1:25 PM
Hiya Pufferpak, welcome to MFK, loks like smiley puffers are not a good thing. The only one I had was a biocellatus years ago that was a murderous little bastard I promptly traded off.
Thanks for the welcome. Most of our puffers are viscous little sods who kill off their tankmates eventually (including their mates :swear: ) even the C. asellus, who in general are usually only fin nippers, will actively hunt any fry or tiny fish that I have tried to keep with them....they seem to get on with Skunk botia pretty well....but the Botias are little knobs in their own right. :ROFL:
I was also looking for tankmates for a figure 8 puffer in a similar sized aquarium, even though they are said to be on the peaceful side of puffers I haven't had any luck yet, I wonder if the other figure 8 in the tank with him had anything to do with it? they seem to be constantly on the lookout for something to wear their teeth down on, even each other! let me know what you try and how it works out so I can get some ideas!