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IoStrisciare
11-13-2005, 5:47 AM
Got the curse of the itch and bought a pair of baby Hydrocynus Goliath from Dovii of CF...
Finally the real deal... :headbang2
IoStrisciare
11-13-2005, 5:50 AM
Truely monsters.... Behaviour wise and stability are completely different from the other Hydrocynus species....
Ate within 10min of release in their tank! :WHOA:
check out the swells in their bellies... :grinyes:
Steve_89
11-13-2005, 5:52 AM
:drool: to the max man :thumbsup:
Looks like the ATF's I got from Wes. Same deal, ate right out of the bag. Nice looking fishies. Thanks for sharing!
IoStrisciare
11-13-2005, 6:19 AM
Looks like the ATF's I got from Wes. Same deal, ate right out of the bag. Nice looking fishies. Thanks for sharing!
they have a bluish shine and red eyes and for some reason a red patch on the tip of their lower jaw...
Stunning, can't wait for my tiger to come on Wednesday.
Ta.
PhullTank57
11-13-2005, 7:17 AM
ATF Authority, in Full Swing!! :thumbsup: Congrats on picking up on these two sought after monsters! :clap 2 words,,, "POWER FEED!!" :D
Yo-Zuri
11-13-2005, 8:48 AM
congrats on your new fishes! :woot:
IoStrisciare
11-13-2005, 9:17 AM
ATF Authority, in Full Swing!! :thumbsup: Congrats on picking up on these two sought after monsters! :clap 2 words,,, "POWER FEED!!" :D
its a buffet in their tank....
and the way they eat... damn...
its like mini great whites... :headbang2
IoStrisciare
11-13-2005, 9:17 AM
congrats on your new fishes! :woot:
congrats to u on ur new fishes tmw :grinyes:
FormulatedFire
11-13-2005, 9:29 AM
def nice i want some bad also
toxicfish
11-13-2005, 9:33 AM
I want them....can I have em, please!!!!! LOL
Nice Fish Bro :thumbsup:
another collection .... congras... hehe
Definitely a must have monster fish!
very nice IoS they look good.
dixon
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 2:37 AM
thanks for the comments...
just an update...
the 2 of them are currently on a 24hr buffet of baby mollies now...
they certainly eat alot and digest quickly... all the feeders from yesterday were gone when i got back earlier.
rumblesushi
11-14-2005, 2:52 AM
Io - how big are they and how many did they eat?
They are on their own? When will you try them with other fish?
MarlboroMan
11-14-2005, 4:14 AM
very nice fish!
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 7:21 AM
Io - how big are they and how many did they eat?
They are on their own? When will you try them with other fish?
currently 3" and eat abt 20 baby feeders.
will add them to the main comm when they hit 8".
cuban jey
11-14-2005, 8:25 AM
nice addition :naughty:
Are you sure they are goliath?
Yo-Zuri
11-14-2005, 9:16 AM
thanks for the comments...
just an update...
the 2 of them are currently on a 24hr buffet of baby mollies now...
they certainly eat alot and digest quickly... all the feeders from yesterday were gone when i got back earlier.
seems like you have to go LFS stock up your supply everyday!
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 9:17 AM
Are you sure they are goliath?
v sure. no stripes, jaws v large and longer than vittatus.
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 9:17 AM
seems like you have to go LFS stock up your supply everyday!
hopefully this round will last till thurs or so. :grinyes:
Cool indeed. I didn't mean to be a doubter, just that there are so many goliaths out there that always seem to be something else. I am by no means an expert on them.
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 11:39 AM
Cool indeed. I didn't mean to be a doubter, just that there are so many goliaths out there that always seem to be something else. I am by no means an expert on them.
its cool.
i was a doubter too when i heard tt there were stock of these guys.
Only after looking at them in the flesh and comparing them w a vittatus was i confident of their ID. :)
R1_Ridah
11-14-2005, 12:29 PM
Probably dumb to say but since your in Asia you probably do have a Goliath since it seems like you guys get the best pick of the pack before it reaches state side =-(
Everytime I see a picture of Goliaths 4-sale it's always a Fishstore in either Japan, Indonesia or somewhere in ASIA.
Would be interesting to see them about 8+" or so. It seems that they develope that more squared out snout oppose to the pointy Vittatus.
Nice pick up :grinyes:
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 12:36 PM
Probably dumb to say but since your in Asia you probably do have a Goliath since it seems like you guys get the best pick of the pack before it reaches state side =-(
Everytime I see a picture of Goliaths 4-sale it's always a Fishstore in either Japan, Indonesia or somewhere in ASIA.
Would be interesting to see them about 8+" or so. It seems that they develope that more squared out snout oppose to the pointy Vittatus.
Nice pick up :grinyes:
actually they are rare here too.
and this shipment was only 5-6 pces. The last shipment was a yr plus back. So they arent exactly the best of the litter.
from my observations so far, it would be interesting to see the 2 goliaths grow as one of them eats an insane amt of food while the other just eats as per normal.
So i wld prob get 2 goliaths w diff body builds later on. One fat one and a slim one.
They already have a much more blocky jaw than vittatus at this size. Teeth already very visible at a size of 3 inches.
R1_Ridah
11-14-2005, 2:14 PM
You need to get rid of the one that does not eat too much.....so send me the other one :drool: ....how much to ship to the U.S :thumbsup: ...j/p
Seriously though....do you know if the place you got it from will ship state side ????
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 6:16 PM
You need to get rid of the one that does not eat too much.....so send me the other one :drool: ....how much to ship to the U.S :thumbsup: ...j/p
Seriously though....do you know if the place you got it from will ship state side ????
the aquarium does in fact ship to state side. But i don't know if there are any goliaths left.
The aquarium is one of the forum sellers here. Cichlids Forever. :grinyes:
there are 5 species in the hydrocynus genus, right? Forsalki (sp) is also another that seems to come in instead of goliath.
I am very interested to see what becomes of these guys!
IoStrisciare
11-14-2005, 7:37 PM
there are 5 species in the hydrocynus genus, right? Forsalki (sp) is also another that seems to come in instead of goliath.
I am very interested to see what becomes of these guys!
all the other species are striped if i'm not wrong and have v diff characters compared to these 2...
much less timid than the normal hydrocynus.
fugupuff
11-15-2005, 7:41 PM
can you post more pictures of them please, love to see the comparison with the vittatus, you should go pick some up to keep together!
They look like these guys.... got them from one of the sponsors f the forum...:)
These hydrocynus sp. also have no stripes, but they do not look like goliaths. In fact, they might be vitattus. But, like Clay said, I too am not an expert on classifying this fish while juvenile. How much did you pay for those ?
lizardfishman
11-15-2005, 7:57 PM
nice fish
IoStrisciare
11-15-2005, 11:20 PM
can you post more pictures of them please, love to see the comparison with the vittatus, you should go pick some up to keep together!
i will snap more pics of them as they grow.
As for comming them w other tigerfish i think tts a big no no...
already they're very aggressive among themselves. Don't think a jumpy species like vittatus can take living with them.
IoStrisciare
11-15-2005, 11:25 PM
They look like these guys.... got them from one of the sponsors f the forum...:)
These hydrocynus sp. also have no stripes, but they do not look like goliaths. In fact, they might be vitattus. But, like Clay said, I too am not an expert on classifying this fish while juvenile. How much did you pay for those ?
from an article i read, juvenile goliaths have a bluish stripe on the top of their bodies and faint stripes. Plus if u notice, these guys have a much more powerful built jaw than vittatus or brevis. Plus characterwise they are much more aggressive.
i paid like US$30 for one.
fugupuff
11-15-2005, 11:27 PM
first picture are the ones I got in, labeled as Goliath, but are they, they are from the Congo though.
the second, I've posted before, is what I consider goliath, and sold in Japan as such, with a hefty price tag too
redtailfool
11-15-2005, 11:35 PM
Great pickup IO, post their developments here .
I hope you they get huge real soon. :headbang2
IoStrisciare
11-15-2005, 11:45 PM
first picture are the ones I got in, labeled as Goliath, but are they, they are from the Congo though.
the second, I've posted before, is what I consider goliath, and sold in Japan as such, with a hefty price tag too
ok... if u notice that in the bottom pic the tigers are much slimmer and hence give tt impression of a longer snout.
the belly looks sunken to me as if u look from the tail it angles wrong suddenly.
if u draw an imaginary curve following the curve at the base of the tail... the body shape will match the above.
IoStrisciare
11-15-2005, 11:48 PM
Great pickup IO, post their developments here .
I hope you they get huge real soon. :headbang2
i hope so too... i want them in the 180 like now....
fugupuff
11-17-2005, 10:21 PM
again this is whats being considered as goliath in germany as well as Japan, the ones in the United States today...
IoStrisciare
11-17-2005, 10:24 PM
my pair looks like a better fed version of the pair in the 2nd pic.
notice a visible diff in the two.... one has a more robust build while the other is slimmer and has a less chunky head.
sex difference?
IoStrisciare
11-17-2005, 10:35 PM
first picture are the ones I got in, labeled as Goliath, but are they, they are from the Congo though.
the second, I've posted before, is what I consider goliath, and sold in Japan as such, with a hefty price tag too
dude,
according to this article based on the accounts of Douglas Dann, Goliaths originally come from the congo.
Goliath Tiger fish article (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://tanganyika-cichlids.com/tiger1.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhydrocynus%2Bgoliath%26start%3D30%26h l%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)
Vince
11-17-2005, 11:25 PM
We'll know for sure when it gets to the 8 inch mark...tada! I'ma not that bad of a person...just ornery. :)
fugupuff
11-17-2005, 11:30 PM
here are a set of the "slender ones" from last year, which I would call h. forskalli, and the dark picture was from 5 years ago, my friend that bought it, it grew to 11" but remained skinny!
fugupuff
11-17-2005, 11:32 PM
here's a set of what I consider vittatus, the first set taken back in 1998-99, they were $250.00 each, and I bought a group of them! Since there was a drought of them for at least 5 years prior to that. note the 1 megapixel picturess :)
then more recent ones from last year and this year
tigerfangs
11-18-2005, 2:10 PM
Like I said in another thread, you'll know with certainty in a few months as they approach 5" or so. The Goliath will not develop prominat striping where all the others will. GL
fugupuff
11-20-2005, 3:13 AM
a nice 13" range vittatus, perfect fins, beauty! I will slowly reveal more details...compare this to the top photos, and compare to the smaller specimens
a pair out of a group of nice tigers...more pictures to come, stay tuned!
fugupuff
11-20-2005, 8:18 PM
A true goliath in my opion for the record, compare with adult fish and multiple adult photos that I've seen, there is an eerie resemblence! 99% of the ones we see and get are not goliath even though they're labeled as such. More pictures to come...
This month alone, I've sorted through over 150 specimens, maybe the same amount last year, came up with a big fat "zero" in my opinion :confused:
tigerfangs
11-21-2005, 2:30 AM
Those fish familiar :grinyes:
IoStrisciare
11-22-2005, 8:40 AM
updates of mine....
rumblesushi
11-25-2005, 5:24 PM
When they're slightly larger it seems quite obvious the distinction between goliath and the others. The tail and the mouth of the goliath look very different.
At first I didn't notice much difference between the 2, but I wasn't really trying to find one. Looking at them carefully there is a significant difference. The goliath has a bigger curvier tail, and a more elongated dog-like mouth. And of course no stripes.
But Io's tigers seem to have the tail of a goliath but not the mouth.
It seems very clear to me that what I am seeing is to properly identify this beast. I was also made to believe at a local fish store that what they had was a goliath. Size was about 6 nches. Priced at $350.00. Those fish were long gone, and i did not buy it because I don't know what a H. Goliath looks like. I couldn't tell the difference just by looking and not seeing actual picture of the fish. But now since Wes (fugupuff) has posted pictures, I can clearly see the difference. The goliath has an elongated head. Not sure if that is visible while at 2-3inch size, or maybe even 4". But I'm sure to the trained eye, it is.
rumblesushi
11-26-2005, 10:00 AM
do you think Io's are goliath or other?
Vince
11-26-2005, 10:16 AM
do you think Io's are goliath or other?
I'm not going on that limb :) It's very hard to tell just by pictures, and at that size. Time will tell, and hope that it's not a mislabeled fish.
sharp tooth
04-12-2008, 5:45 PM
here are a set of the "slender ones" from last year, which I would call h. forskalli, and the dark picture was from 5 years ago, my friend that bought it, it grew to 11" but remained skinny!
sorry to bring up an old thread.
but how sure are you that these are h.forskalli fugupuff?
i only ask due to the fact that i have just bought the exsact same fish as the first 2 pics. he is aroud 3" at the moment.
from my reading i had started to belive that he was a h.brevis but as i said its the exsact fish you say are forskalli here.
your help is greatly apreciated.
ST.
worrut
04-12-2008, 7:30 PM
nice tiger,i wish i have one
maxpowers
11-08-2009, 12:25 AM
where and how much ive having trouble finding goliaths. New big empty tank:cry: nice fish
DB junkie
11-08-2009, 9:03 PM
where and how much ive having trouble finding goliaths. New big empty tank:cry: nice fish
Might be kinda tough finding fish that are illegal in your state. Last time I checked all species of Characin are banned in Tx.