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can they be keep togeder wolf and micropeltes if so ao long,can wolf stand chana :D
lizardfishman
11-15-2005, 8:30 PM
let us know who wins if they get in a fight. i wouldnt do it because the wolf will eat it if the SH is too small. and the SH mite kill the wolf if the SH is too big.
When very young both will be less aggressive but first wolf fish will try to kill snakehead.If the snakehead survives sooner or later the wolf fish will be a snack.
CAPOREGIME
11-16-2005, 3:07 PM
So what youre saying is a full grown micropeltes is going to "snack" on a full grown wolf? I dont think so. A goliath wolf, no way. And a hoplias, Ive seen them put down fish bigger than themselves. Come on now. Were talking of a fish who will not tolerate any tankmates and has the jaws to back it up. Time and time again, we all see the thread, "can you keep so and so with a wolf?" And the universal reply is, "NO!"
rumblesushi
11-16-2005, 3:20 PM
I kept a hoplias around 9 inches with a couple of oscars, and they gave as good as they got.
Hops are overrated, my albino channa would have torn it up. No doubt about it.
I've kept both and I've seen the way they kill prey etc, snakeheads are on another level, they are extremely violent fish.
The giant wolves are not easy to come by, most people have mals or ery erys.
So what youre saying is a full grown micropeltes is going to "snack" on a full grown wolf? I dont think so. A goliath wolf, no way. And a hoplias, Ive seen them put down fish bigger than themselves. Come on now. Were talking of a fish who will not tolerate any tankmates and has the jaws to back it up. Time and time again, we all see the thread, "can you keep so and so with a wolf?" And the universal reply is, "NO!"
A Micropeltes is just as formidable as a Wolf. Just as impresive set of teeth and a bigger mouth. Just as or even more aggresive.
I think it would be a case of whoever got the first bite. I've seen many pictures of fish sliced in half by Micropeltes.
CAPOREGIME
11-16-2005, 5:00 PM
I guess so. It all depends on the fish. Ive had two hoplias' and both were hell spawns. My buddy has one and he seems very tame in comparison. It would be nice to have a tankmate with my wolf but I dont want to risk the life of him, or the other fish. Maybe a snakehead is the only other fish who could stand the challenge. We'll see...just found out snakeheads are legal in Montreal, Canada.
Cyclop3000
11-16-2005, 7:16 PM
Aye legal in montreal, I just bought one yesterday. If you are in montreal check out Big Al's in pointe-claire on St-Jean blvd. I bought what they labeled a "3-spot snakehead" for 20$ (about 3"...I took the bigger one ;) ), and they also had another genus which they labeled "Rainbow snakehead". The so called rainbows were in quarantaine, they just had received them yesterday. I was told the 3-spot would grow to approx 16", and the rainbow to 8" and less agressive. It's in my tank now...hiding in the rocks cause my other fish are trying to snack on him. Hope he will live, I want to put him in his own tank later...
This place has nice fish, but they suck for knowledge...I can rarely get a latin name for a fish there...btw they also had one wolf fish left, if you are interested :)
Let me know if you buy one!
The reason I put snack on the wolf is that most people dont understand that a micropeltes is capable of eating till bursting point.I have known quite a few owners that have lost most of their tank contents overnight rather than one by one when they have not heeded warnings on reds.Rainbow snakehead will be bleheri and three spot(usually 4) will be pleurophthalmus.Both can be kept in a group and are some of only social snakeheads(with their own kind)
o is fast to grow micropeltes or wolf in first year and wo get biger in a year
jason34
11-18-2005, 3:39 PM
thay both sound intresting fish.
miro_red.D
11-19-2005, 2:03 AM
micros can reach over 2 ffet in a year and a half...montreal does have snakeheads, get them at aquatropical 3 inch micros for 5.99...pretty dam good deal...i payed 20$ each for mine...dam rip off...too bad aqua dint have any in stock when i bought them
bsplenden
11-20-2005, 10:39 PM
I got a 6" Hoplias malabaricus yesterday. It tore through 2 layers of plastic on my way home, and resulted in major leakage. I had brought an additional plastic bag along and I thought I can just dump the fish into the new bag. The fish won't allow me and got my finger. About 3 puncture holes and blood flowed out... (That is about the time when I realised I'm going to love this fish.) I had to go back to the owner's place, and he placed the wolf in a tank, and I had to carry the tank home. :thumbsup:
If you're talking about both fishes being the same size, I'll say the wolf will have a higher chance of winning. They will just swallow small preys. For preys too big, they bite, and immediately reel backwards and twist their body to tear the flesh off.
I have kept Channa micropeltes on quite a few occasions until they grew too big. they usually don't attack as long as it is too large. But they got a nasty temper which grows with their size.
If you're thinking of keeping them together, I think you are going to need LOTS of luck.
Cyclop3000
11-20-2005, 10:55 PM
micros can reach over 2 ffet in a year and a half...montreal does have snakeheads, get them at aquatropical 3 inch micros for 5.99...pretty dam good deal...i payed 20$ each for mine...dam rip off...too bad aqua dint have any in stock when i bought them
One word of advice on aquatropical...I also live near montreal and bought a couple "non expensive" fire eels there last spring. They both died within a week. My tank is large, well established, water specs are perfect, and my other fishes did not touch them. No sign of agression...
Obviously one cannot blame the store, it's like blaming a butcher for though meat...how can he know it's not tender...but still it made me scratch this store from my list. I like to go at Big Al's in pointe-claire, and sometimes Nature pet store also in pte-claire. You should give them a shot :)
My 2 cents... :thumbsup:
miro_red.D
11-21-2005, 1:01 AM
i can always go to those places...but aqua is just the place for me i no a couple plp who work there get major deals, if i want feeders ill get 300 for 5 bucks...none of the fish i bought there have died...it really depends on the fish u buy according to me...u might find ureself buying fish that came in from thailand the night before and they die due too stress witin the next few days, i always inspect when im there cuz yes i agree the quality is not the best...but the prices are unmatched.
Monster VooDoo Fish
11-21-2005, 1:56 PM
My moneys on the wolf. My 13" wolf broke a tooth off on my 26" Cobra sh.
I have a video of this when I tried the mix. about 11 years or so a go I thried
wolf with P's and C. Micro. it just wont work.
Big Business
11-21-2005, 2:46 PM
about 11 years or so a go I thried
wolf with P's and C. Micro. it just wont work.
who came out on top? what kind of P's?