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			<title>call hystrix experts</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I made my way to the lfs that has a "hystrixs" for sale. I wanted to make sure it's a true hystrixs before I purchase. I tried taking some pictures with my cell phone. I don't think they came out very good but hopefully you'll be able to tell rather or not its a true hystrixs.  
 
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			<title>My new rays.</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:33:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Finally, today i got my spesial ordered P.Castexi Otorongo "White seam", from Peru. 
  
Female is 40 cm w/tail, 25 cm over disc.  
Male is 30 cm w/tail, 17 cm over disc.  
  
Beutyfull rays in good conditions. The male are a bit skinny, but i'll try to give him some good food.  
Female was eating...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Finally, today i got my spesial ordered P.Castexi Otorongo &quot;White seam&quot;, from Peru.<br />
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Female is 40 cm w/tail, 25 cm over disc. <br />
Male is 30 cm w/tail, 17 cm over disc. <br />
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Beutyfull rays in good conditions. The male are a bit skinny, but i'll try to give him some good food. <br />
Female was eating eartworms, after 10 min. in the tank. :)<br />
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They are now in a 450 liters quarantine tank for aprox one month. Then they will move in to my 4000 liters ray tank, with my P.motoro pair. <br />
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Not only &quot;daddy&quot; was happy when the new rays was in place. :D</div>


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			<title>Which filter media should i use?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:50:01 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have an FX5, but i dont know what type of media i should use for it. any ideas? it will be a ray and discus tank</description>
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			<title>How do you tell if your ray has INTERNAL parasites?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:39:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello, 
 
My motoro rays are captive bred and (as far as I know) have never been fed live food. I acquired them at around 2-3 wks old and have been feeding them a staple diet of blackworms and red wigglers. I have noticed that my smaller male ray's fecal matter has bands of white running down the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello,<br />
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My motoro rays are captive bred and (as far as I know) have never been fed live food. I acquired them at around 2-3 wks old and have been feeding them a staple diet of blackworms and red wigglers. I have noticed that my smaller male ray's fecal matter has bands of white running down the length of &quot;the curly,&quot; but still solid. Whereas, my female's is one solid color all the way through. This worries me because their diets are the same, yet the fecal matter is different.<br />
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Both have good appetites, but I want to know. Its always better safe than sorry.<br />
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P.S. If I put the fecal matter under microscope, how am I suppose to ID it anyways? I'm no biologist.</div>

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			<dc:creator>CrAzYNeSs</dc:creator>
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			<title>Do we replicate the natural environment temperature?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:58:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>It seems most people keep there temperature on there rays around 82-84 degrees. Are we doing it right? 
  
Did a little research and it seems that http://www.galenfrysinger.com/brazil_rio_negro.htm 
  
rio negro is around 71.6-82.4 degrees. 
  
amazon river basin averages about 81 degrees. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>It seems most people keep there temperature on there rays around 82-84 degrees. Are we doing it right?<br />
 <br />
Did a little research and it seems that <a href="http://www.galenfrysinger.com/brazil_rio_negro.htm" target="_blank">http://www.galenfrysinger.com/brazil_rio_negro.htm</a><br />
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rio negro is around 71.6-82.4 degrees.<br />
 <br />
amazon river basin averages about 81 degrees.<br />
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seems like we could be a little cooler and be more like there natural environment.<br />
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thoughts?</div>

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			<dc:creator>keepinfish</dc:creator>
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			<title>new tank, bass are flashing on my rays</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:12:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I got my new tank set up and running a few weeks ago. I noticed that last night my p-bass and dats are flashing against my large female motoro. WHY? should i be concerned? 
  
It freaks her out when they do it. She is also beat up from mating.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I got my new tank set up and running a few weeks ago. I noticed that last night my p-bass and dats are flashing against my large female motoro. WHY? should i be concerned?<br />
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It freaks her out when they do it. She is also beat up from mating.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[FS HENLEI STINGRAYS "BLACK" VERY NICE]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:30:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have for sale 2 potamotrygon *henlei* "black" 6"-7" males.Located in Calgary Alberta.Perfers pick up but shipping maybe available in canada only.Will consider any reasonable trade.Price is $1300cnd each. 
These pups are between 6"-7" and already look like a more mature *henlei*.The spots are...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have for sale 2 potamotrygon <b><font color="#ffde00">henlei</font></b> &quot;black&quot; 6&quot;-7&quot; males.Located in Calgary Alberta.Perfers pick up but shipping maybe available in canada only.Will consider any reasonable trade.Price is $1300cnd each.<br />
These pups are between 6&quot;-7&quot; and already look like a more mature <b><font color="#ffde00">henlei</font></b>.The spots are already stunning and looks like they are going to be black like leopoldi.I have them eating very well &quot;chopped earthworms,mysis shrimp,hikari massivore pellets and black worms&quot; i have 3 pups in total i will keep the one that doesnt sell.First come first serve.PM with any questions please.Thanks</div>


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			<title>New ray! ID? Henlei/motoro hybrid!</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:00:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I picked this female up yesterday and it's supposed to be a Henlei/motoro hybrid. What do you guys think? The darker ones in the pictures are Pearl/motoro hybrid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I picked this female up yesterday and it's supposed to be a Henlei/motoro hybrid. What do you guys think? The darker ones in the pictures are Pearl/motoro hybrid.</div>


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			<title>help id my ray</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:43:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[just picked this one up from CL.  first ray but i dont know what kind it is.  can someone please help me identify it? sorry for the crappy pics 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>just picked this one up from CL.  first ray but i dont know what kind it is.  can someone please help me identify it? sorry for the crappy pics<br />
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			<title>noob question but can fresh water rays get ichs?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:50:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>noob question but can fresh water rays get ichs? if so do they get it easy? never had a ray before and im planning on getting one later this week or two.  
  
thnx- studd muffin :headbang2</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>noob question but can fresh water rays get ichs? if so do they get it easy? never had a ray before and im planning on getting one later this week or two. <br />
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thnx- studd muffin :headbang2</div>

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			<title>Time to let it all hang out.</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:38:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>As of the 25th of November I will be the owner of a pair of Tiger rays that I intend upon breeding. The female is 17-18 inches and the male 20+.  I am passionate about breeding this species in captivity and offering pups at a very reasonable price.  
I will post pictures ASAP.  
  
:headbang2-FM</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>As of the 25th of November I will be the owner of a pair of Tiger rays that I intend upon breeding. The female is 17-18 inches and the male 20+.  I am passionate about breeding this species in captivity and offering pups at a very reasonable price. <br />
I will post pictures ASAP. <br />
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:headbang2-FM</div>

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			<dc:creator>FireMedic</dc:creator>
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			<title>Marble Motoro?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:03:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Got this one into the shop, 14-15" disc. Please excuse my ignorance, I haven't seen it in person, but, I assume that if it was a male, the claspers would be clearly visable at this size, right? I am really getting excited about keeping rays and learning all about them. . .  
  
To all the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Got this one into the shop, 14-15&quot; disc. Please excuse my ignorance, I haven't seen it in person, but, I assume that if it was a male, the claspers would be clearly visable at this size, right? I am really getting excited about keeping rays and learning all about them. . . <br />
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To all the knowledegable folks in this folder, what do you think about her?<br />
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Thanks all in advance, <br />
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			<title><![CDATA[What's fair pricing for hybrids?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I was just wondering how you guys would price hybrid rays. I've recently had some pearl/motoro hybrids, so would you price the ray at the middle cost of both rays or would you price the rays lower or higher than middle. Or do you ignore both ray costs and price according to the patterns on the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was just wondering how you guys would price hybrid rays. I've recently had some pearl/motoro hybrids, so would you price the ray at the middle cost of both rays or would you price the rays lower or higher than middle. Or do you ignore both ray costs and price according to the patterns on the pups? What should be a general rule for hybrid pricing?</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[If it can't fit in the rays mouth, will it eat it?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:42:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello MFKers, 
 
I have two rays about 4" wide and want to add 3" NTTs to the tank. I checked and the rays mouths are too small for the NTTs to fit into. Will I have trouble with the mix? 
 
Thanks! 
 
Best, 
Jeff]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello MFKers,<br />
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I have two rays about 4&quot; wide and want to add 3&quot; NTTs to the tank. I checked and the rays mouths are too small for the NTTs to fit into. Will I have trouble with the mix?<br />
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Thanks!<br />
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Best,<br />
Jeff</div>

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			<title>My New Pick up</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:37:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Just got this boy yesterday evening, was choosing happily when this very pcs caught my eye, Couldn't resist its spots/patterns all over its body..Decided to brought it home. :D 
 
Hope will be my last additions of the year, Been spending like crazy this few weeks. Need to take a short break. :p 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just got this boy yesterday evening, was choosing happily when this very pcs caught my eye, Couldn't resist its spots/patterns all over its body..Decided to brought it home. :D<br />
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Hope will be my last additions of the year, Been spending like crazy this few weeks. Need to take a short break. :p<br />
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First 2 pics are under white light, the last one is white+ pink light. <br />
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