I recently cured my 11" green terror of bloat in 3 days with a combination of Epsom salt at 1tsp per 10 gallons of water, normal dosing of Marycyn plus (only dosed on days 1 and 3, never got to day 5), and luckily he was still eating so I fed him hikari cichlid staple and algae wafers soaked In a kanaplex solution (1 scoop for each tbsp of water). It seems like he's contracted the illness again so I've begun treatment but I was wondering if I could/ should mix in some erythromycin to the hospital tank. I noticed it later than I did last time so yhe infection seems more advanced. Will adding the erythromycin be beneficial?
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No, without knowing the mode of operation and contradictions associated with each of these medications you're playing a dangerous game which could easily kill your fish.
Okay I'll stick to my current treatment then.
On a side note though, does dropsy always cause the pine cone looking scales? My fish is showing all the symptoms of dropsy but doesn't have the pine cone looking scales. His symptoms are swelling bellow the gills and on the abdominal area, not swimming straight, one very very slightly cloudy eye and the very edge of his orange trim on the caudal fin looks discolored (slightly lighter orange than the rest) I'm thinking it may be stress related from fighting my other male gt or I'm even doubting if it is dropsy. What do you think?
Just to clear up the issues. The issues is caused by internal parasitic or blockage issues. First thing is The medications your using arent meant for this issue. They are also bad to mix as one is Erythromycin (a gram positive treatment that doesnt play well with others) and the other (Kanamycin sulfate, a gram negative primary with minimal gram positive treatment and it can be combined with specific treatments BUT you have to know what they are... Nitrofurizone, Triple sulfa, Malachite Green, Doxycyline, Formalin, Methalyne blue.... BUT they are specific.) in the case of your issue id recommend a Bath of Epsom and tank water as a relief. 1 tablespoon per gallon for up to 30 min. You can add Methalyne blue to it as an aid and it also helps add oxygen directly to the hemoglobin of the fishes blood so if breathing is rough it helps. The epsom is a two part help as a mild diuretic as well as a laxative. Your diet for this fish may be lacking in the right things and is causing bloat. I would also look at using a treatment to start with as orally dosed Metronidazole. Many of the bloat issues with fish can be cured with this and Epsom. Id recommend a food that has Metro in it or soaking the food in a 3% solution of epsom with metro added and feeding it for 7 to 10 days.
Erythromycin has VERY limited uses. in fact Minimal at best. its best use is in the cases of true symptoms of dropsy or popey (not actual diseases but symptoms of the disease thats normally a gram positive bacteria or an issue with Kidney failures) It should be dosed orally again as it is slow to absorb and that fresh water fish do not drink. But this would be different then a normal bloat.
Most green terror have issues with Hexamita in the gut and the cause of bloat as well asif fed a lower quality diet with to many fillers or not enough of the correct foods it can cause constipation. This causes the bloating and sometimes impaction. Using the metro and epsom while getting on better food is normally the best answer.
kanamycin sulfate is best left for very specific bacterial infections such as Aeromas, Flexorbacter/Flavobacterium, saprolegina and other specific bacterial issues. It is one of the few antibiotics that can be dosed in water or oral as it is a tissue soaking. Its not something thats effective against bloat issues. It does lean more towards gram negative aerobic bacterial issues.
Erythromycin has VERY limited uses. in fact Minimal at best. its best use is in the cases of true symptoms of dropsy or popey (not actual diseases but symptoms of the disease thats normally a gram positive bacteria or an issue with Kidney failures) It should be dosed orally again as it is slow to absorb and that fresh water fish do not drink. But this would be different then a normal bloat.
Most green terror have issues with Hexamita in the gut and the cause of bloat as well asif fed a lower quality diet with to many fillers or not enough of the correct foods it can cause constipation. This causes the bloating and sometimes impaction. Using the metro and epsom while getting on better food is normally the best answer.
kanamycin sulfate is best left for very specific bacterial infections such as Aeromas, Flexorbacter/Flavobacterium, saprolegina and other specific bacterial issues. It is one of the few antibiotics that can be dosed in water or oral as it is a tissue soaking. Its not something thats effective against bloat issues. It does lean more towards gram negative aerobic bacterial issues.
Great information. I wish I would've gotten this information before I went out and bought all this medication that isn't doing anything. Thank you!
